JM57 Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Marty McFly said: Yeah that was so !@#$ing stupid. He jus threw a fade a few downs earlier. Stupid stupid playcall Worse is that Peterman said after the game that the fade was actually the audible because the Patriots stacked the box. The original call? QB draw. Real original play calling and scheming there, Dennison Edited December 4, 2017 by JM57
Marty McFly Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, JM57 said: Worse is that Peterman said after the game that the fade was actually the audible because the Patriots stacked the box. The original call? QB draw. Real original play calling and scheming there, Dennison I remember reading that and being even more pissed off than originally. 1
HappyDays Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Dennison is always a threat to ruin a good looking drive. Doesn’t matter who the QB is if he calls a fade on 4th and goal. He probably doesn’t even know that is a low percentage play. We won’t know if Peterman is any good until Dennison is gone and we have 1 receiver capable of separation.
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 I thought Dennison was fine yesterday. The goalline series with Peterman in wasn't the best called series of all time but it wasn't a tire fire either. Most of our offensive ineptitude yesterday was, as it has been much of the season, execution. So, so many well drawn up and poorly executed plays. From Tyrod, from our o-line, our backs, or receivers running wrong routes and of course the big miss by Webb of a wide open Cadet.
JohnC Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 On 11/2/2017 at 11:43 PM, HappyDays said: I think we would have lost this game no matter what because of how poor the defense played and our 3 turnovers. But there is no excuse for all the runs up the middle. This was the Carolina game all over again. The strategy had nothing to do with the emasculation that happened yesterday. You have to mix in the run or your mediocre qbs are going to overwhelmed. Even if a running play doesn't get you much yardage it at least keeps the defense a little honest so it doesn't go full throttle at the qb. The Bills got destroyed by the Saints, Pats and even the Chargers. Those are measuring stick games that indicate how low on the totem pole this team actually is. This team is bereft of talent. It's as simple as that. Our starting mobile qb simply isn't good enough to compensate for the lack of talent in other areas. Every unit on the team is deficient except for the defensive backfield, the kickers and backfield. Coaching strategy means little without talent. That's where we are. Until the team gets an authentic franchise qb and infusion of talent is added to this dry well this team will continue to lag.
NakedSquid Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 What did it for me was throwing the ball 6 times inside the 10 yard line resulting in an interception and a 4 and out (with a rookie QB).... especially when you have McCoy it was dreadful. Calling screens and 10 yard curls when you need 12+. It's play calling and play design ... it's as if we don't have plays for 3rd and Long. Switching to the zone scheme was a stupid call and that's on the HC. I want him gone and I don't usually call for someone to be gone.
Big Gun Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, NakedSquid said: What did it for me was throwing the ball 6 times inside the 10 yard line resulting in an interception and a 4 and out (with a rookie QB).... especially when you have McCoy it was dreadful. Calling screens and 10 yard curls when you need 12+. It's play calling and play design ... it's as if we don't have plays for 3rd and Long. Switching to the zone scheme was a stupid call and that's on the HC. I want him gone and I don't usually call for someone to be gone. Hey are you related to thundering squid?
NakedSquid Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: Hey are you related to thundering squid? No, no relation.
transplantbillsfan Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: if you really want the thread to die.... stop posting in it. You first
JM57 Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I thought Dennison was fine yesterday. The goalline series with Peterman in wasn't the best called series of all time but it wasn't a tire fire either. Most of our offensive ineptitude yesterday was, as it has been much of the season, execution. So, so many well drawn up and poorly executed plays. From Tyrod, from our o-line, our backs, or receivers running wrong routes and of course the big miss by Webb of a wide open Cadet. Look at what the Rams are doing with Goff and tell me if you think Dennison is good enough. McVay knows that Goff is still learning to read the full field. What is his remedy? Playing a lot of 4 WR sets with a bunch to one side and then having him read that side of the field and throw. What does Dennison do with a limited QB? Here's my scheme. Run it.
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, JM57 said: Look at what the Rams are doing with Goff and tell me if you think Dennison is good enough. McVay knows that Goff is still learning to read the full field. What is his remedy? Playing a lot of 4 WR sets with a bunch to one side and then having him read that side of the field and throw. What does Dennison do with a limited QB? Here's my scheme. Run it. I'm not saying Dennison is Sean McVay.... and that is a ridiculous argument. If he pushed for Peterman he should go.... and as an OC he has been below average.... but the execution week after week after week has sucked. And I tend to give the playcaller a break when the players can't execute simple concepts.
boco357 Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 There are going to be a lot of guys available: Mccoy, Hue Jackson, even Mcadoo. I'd go with one of them.
GunnerBill Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, boco357 said: There are going to be a lot of guys available: Mccoy, Hue Jackson, even Mcadoo. I'd go with one of them. Only Hue of that list is of any interest at all to me.
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 I saw all I needed to see on 4th and goal on the 1 when the game was still kind of in reach. He called a low percentage play that you try on 1st or 2nd and goal. You have got to give that ball to Mcoy or play action to a drag route or even a QB bootleg that Peterman is capable of running as well. Terrible play calling cost us a td.
JM57 Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'm not saying Dennison is Sean McVay.... and that is a ridiculous argument. If he pushed for Peterman he should go.... and as an OC he has been below average.... but the execution week after week after week has sucked. And I tend to give the playcaller a break when the players can't execute simple concepts. I'm not saying Dennison = McVay. What I'm saying is that good coaches realize that players have imperfections and adjust the offense or defense to minimize those issues. Dennison is not doing that. When you also add in the fact it's a stale uninspiring offense to begin with, he really needs to be gone.
MarlinTheMagician Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Not McD's first choice. Played not to lose in 2nd half, can't go far that way. Players deserved to feel better about today than Dennison allowed. He has GOT TO GO! Pathetic play calling, if I was Shady I would go on strike over some of those calls. This need not have been close, but we went into the Denishell. He gets a lead and turtles.
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 I was wondering where this week's "Fire Dennison" thread was.
MarlinTheMagician Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Needs to happen. What a turd. So here it is my friend. Players deserved more from OC today.
BillnutinHouston Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 Yea, McD just got done saying Dennison called a great game.
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