dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Ok here's the deal. His production is less than his rookie year. He is on his 5th year next year, cap at ~8.5M or so. Carolina has ZERO cap room. They drafted a guy this year who's just like Kelvin Benjamin BUT is actually better, and cheaper. KB also has issues - speed, undisciplined route runner. Doesn't work on his craft in off-season. but he's a big guy, 6'5" sure handed receiver. Basically a tight end in WR position. I think Tyrod likes those. yup. there is a downside, but an upside too.
Foxx Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/05/nfl-panthers-kelvin-benjamin-fat-photo thanks. i don't know how well he has been playing this year. that article was way before the season started.
Foxx Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Ok here's the deal. His production is less than his rookie year. He is on his 5th year next year, cap at ~8.5M or so. Carolina has ZERO cap room. They drafted a guy this year who's just like Kelvin Benjamin BUT is actually better, and cheaper. KB also has issues - speed, undisciplined route runner. Doesn't work on his craft in off-season. but he's a big guy, 6'5" sure handed receiver. Basically a tight end in WR position. I think Tyrod likes those. great man, thanks!
JMF2006 Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Panthers fans are !@#$ing idiots Ok we will Billieve you....... the trade sucks.
Augie Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 before the compensation was known, guys un there saying it better be Shady !! Haha. Some were saying it was for Cordy too. haha
Utah John Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) About trading Watkins and trading for Benjamin -- There are some secondary considerations that make this a win. 1. We got a second and a good player for Watkins, and gave up a third and a seventh for Benjamin. Win. 2. Watkins is in the last year of his rookie contract and was not going to re-sign in Buffalo. He'll be a FA after this year (and probably a Patriot next year). Benjamin's option year is picked up so we keep him next year too. Win. 3. Watkins was not a good influence in the locker room. Beane and McDermott know Benjamin and they wouldn't be bringing him in if they didn't think he'd be part of the process. Presumed win. 4. Watkins little, Benjamin big. Probable win. 5. I don't know if it's possible to have too many draft picks in one year, but the Bills might have found out. They had too many in 2018, to be able to absorb so many rookies into a tight knit veteran team. Look for the Bills to package more picks to move up on remaining picks. Edited October 31, 2017 by Utah John
Domdab99 Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 But, but, but....what about Brandon Reilly?? When are we bringing him up from the practice squad? they're going to bring him up to be Benjamin's valet.
Jauronimo Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Marmalard's political career was a total disaster but hes a fine GM.
CanadianFan Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 curtis samuel is like 5'10? No there's another guy who is 6'5". Sorry he wasn't drafted this year. Devin Funchess. Tall big WR. KB clone.
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 1.7 percent drop rate in 2016, which is very good: https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2016/
boyst Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) you know, I see you doing a lot of judging on this board, a lot. so just a question for you. what do you consider yourself? I could judge you based on your posts but that would not really be a fair way to fully judge and I don't know you so I have to ask from your own perspective. you may not feel the need to give an answer, may not care and may even judge me for asking but since you seem to judge, a lot, you must be a good judge of character, no? as for this trade. I really don't follow carolina much at all so anyone else have some insight on the kid besides being a chump and lazy? i stopped reading after you started to sound stupid. Of course i judge. It's a god damn football message board. I am kind of a little bit smart in the football. And I know the Panthers well. Soooo, I don't know what else you said because I like my IQ north of 130... But seriously. Relax. Don't do it. When ya wanna come. Oh. And judge me all ya want. Just know I'm an idiot and you're dancing for me.. Edited October 31, 2017 by Boyst62
BringBackFergy Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Marmalard's political career was a total disaster but hes a fine GM.We just need Jugdish, Mohammed and Clayton.
JMF2006 Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Panthers general manager Marty Hurney told ESPN.com that Buffalo reached out to him. He said the trade made sense because it gives Carolina a chance to be more diversified on offense in terms of getting more speed receivers -- Russell Shepard, Curtis Samuel and Kaelin Clay -- on the field. He said Devin Funchess would step into Benjamin's role as the No. 1 receiver. They claimed K Clay back off waivers? And want to get him on the field? Bean got Thompson after watching K Clay fail as a deep threat.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 So #13? Only if Kaelin Clay's feelings aren't hurt. Stevie Johnson is cool with it because God said so.
LeGOATski Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 thanks. i don't know how well he has been playing this year. that article was way before the season started. He's been good. I wonder if he starts right away on Thursday...
napmaster Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Basically gave up Sammy for Kelvin, acquired a 2nd for a 3rd. We gave up Sammy for a starting CB (Gaines) and a 2nd round pick. We gave up a third for KB, so it seems to be more of a Ronald Darby for KB trade.
boyst Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Every party needs a pooper. Thanks for taking one for the team. Of course you do. You know football, how could you not? Still stunned they pulled this off. every off season you read about his laziness in Carolina. My concern was wondering if it's Newton they're appeasing with this or Benjamin wasn't that good. Disirregardless, we have a valuable opportunity with him. I need to let it sink in. Just concerned with how much we gave up...
TheBrownBear Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 No there's another guy who is 6'5". Sorry he wasn't drafted this year. Devin Funchess. Tall big WR. KB clone. Funchess struggled his first couple of years, but he took a big step forward this year, and yes, very similar to Benjamin. Benjamin can be a very good receiver if he's motivated. Not a burner but big and comes down with the contested ball. Sort of like Keyshawn Johnson.
nbbillsfan Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 No there's another guy who is 6'5". Sorry he wasn't drafted this year. Devin Funchess. Tall big WR. KB clone. oh right...but he has been hot garbage for most his career.
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