BringBackOrton Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I heard it too and completely agree. Im guessing he sees some action especially in the red zone. This game is too important to the Bills. The injured guys are already pushing to play. Hunter saw some routes and he was signed pretty fast last year. Design two or three packages with him running deep or corners and that'll be a start.
bobobonators Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 To me, the most important thing about this trade is the fact that McD and Beane have insider, in-depth knowledge of Benjamin. If they are sold on him, I'm sure as hell sold on him. No questions asked. LOOOOVE it.
Fadingpain Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 This entire thread, when combined with the Dareus, Sammy and Darby threads is why you need to knit pick through posts here: the FO (unlike our FO’s of past) have a true plan in place. Make this move which allows this move which allows this move and so on. The vast majority here take them for face value failing to understand that NONE of the people on this board know the big picture they are looking at, regardless of ‘football knowledge’. With all of that being said, I have an immense amount of respect for some of the regulars here and enjoy being the voyeur that I am here. The look and feel of the organization vis-a-vis the powers in charge at OBD is as good as it has been since the demise of the Superbowl teams. The way they are working and the decisions they are taking look, in absolutely no way, like typical Bills administrations in the last two decades.
Augie Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) He does. He blew out his ACL in 2015 and has had soreness in that same knee this year. Two weeks ago he left practice because of frustration with his knee. Sitting him this week would be like an extra bye for him to rest it. Thanks, thats exactly what I thought and what I was referring to. Edited October 31, 2017 by Augie
Heitz Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 ESPN: Why the Panthers Made the Deal (2:16) The Panthers' reporter go one fact wrong by saying Benjamin's deal is up after this season. Yeah, MINOR detail to get wrong. I also love the rationale from Carolina "with him gone, we can get younger, faster players on the field (since they have Funchess, who is a similar body type)" - i.e. KB is too good to take off the field when he's there...
HappyDays Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 This entire thread, when combined with the Dareus, Sammy and Darby threads is why you need to knit pick through posts here: the FO (unlike our FOs of past) have a true plan in place. Make this move which allows this move which allows this move and so on. The vast majority here take them for face value failing to understand that NONE of the people on this board know the big picture they are looking at, regardless of football knowledge. With all of that being said, I have an immense amount of respect for some of the regulars here and enjoy being the voyeur that I am here. Cant blame the fans, we just had several years of a GM who didnt know big and picture belonged in the same sentence. A guy who spent 2 1st round picks on an unproven receiver and gave a $100 million contract to an underachieving DT with a high suspension risk. Whaley never understood talent isnt enough. You have to build a team and you have to build for the future. I love our new vision!
26CornerBlitz Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Kelvin Benjamin trade a shock but makes sense for Panthers The Panthers are more diversified without Kelvin Benjamin, whom they weren't ready to pay big money, and they're betting on Devin Funchess to step up.
Heitz Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 @scott_fowler "When you want people in your foxhole, Kelvin Benjamin is the person that you want." -- Cam Newton, on Sunday. Benjamin traded today.
HappyDays Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I heard it too and completely agree. Im guessing he sees some action especially in the red zone. This game is too important to the Bills. The injured guys are already pushing to play. I dont think he plays on Thursday. My guess is we are playing mind games with the Jets, and why not? Give them one more thing to plan for.
FreddieJizzle22 Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Great trade. This could be a rental for a year or so.
boyst Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I did not read the entire thread, so excuse me if I repeat a thought, but I am sure that you all will torch me for the last part of my epiphany. They were going to lose him at the end of the season--not worth the second contract. KB would demand a $55m contract. Not getting that here. Now the part that will get me some turds: 1. He reported to camp a bit overweight. Some of you pointed out that he got in shape by the beginning of the season. The offseason is to get better--not to get fat. KB should have been tweaking his game, not dieting and running sprints 2. Cam is better without KB. Yes--I said it. in 2015, Cam spread the ball around nicely. I forget our record that year (sarcasm), but the team underperformed the year before and the year after. Hmmm. 3. Our offense is a dud. KB is not getting open. He is running bad routes and is not hard to cover with 1 player. Watch--our offense will open up with him gone. Trust me--addition by subtraction. NOT because KB sucks, but because he does not make others better. Our offense is slow and lumbering. KB had 8 games left and would be gone anyway. Funchess has been better, so... A third rounder is not a bad trade---we got Olsen for a third rounder. Folks--our offensive woes were not all OL--that is what you see on TV...Our big WRs are not getting open. I am not distraught about this--sorry.
Strethor Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I had to excuse myself when i heard the news not gonna lie P R O C E S S
Turk71 Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I did not read the entire thread, so excuse me if I repeat a thought, but I am sure that you all will torch me for the last part of my epiphany. They were going to lose him at the end of the season--not worth the second contract. KB would demand a $55m contract. Not getting that here. Now the part that will get me some turds: 1. He reported to camp a bit overweight. Some of you pointed out that he got in shape by the beginning of the season. The offseason is to get better--not to get fat. KB should have been tweaking his game, not dieting and running sprints 2. Cam is better without KB. Yes--I said it. in 2015, Cam spread the ball around nicely. I forget our record that year (sarcasm), but the team underperformed the year before and the year after. Hmmm. 3. Our offense is a dud. KB is not getting open. He is running bad routes and is not hard to cover with 1 player. Watch--our offense will open up with him gone. Trust me--addition by subtraction. NOT because KB sucks, but because he does not make others better. Our offense is slow and lumbering. KB had 8 games left and would be gone anyway. Funchess has been better, so... A third rounder is not a bad trade---we got Olsen for a third rounder. Folks--our offensive woes were not all OL--that is what you see on TV...Our big WRs are not getting open. I am not distraught about this--sorry. This Car. guy is misinformed. Benjamin was not gone after this year, they picked up his 5th yr option for 8.5 mil and could have kept him if they wanted. I can understand the part about he and Funchess being very similar.
TroutDog Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Cant blame the fans, we just had several years of a GM who didnt know big and picture belonged in the same sentence. A guy who spent 2 1st round picks on an unproven receiver and gave a $100 million contract to an underachieving DT with a high suspension risk. Whaley never understood talent isnt enough. You have to build a team and you have to build for the future. I love our new vision! By no means I am blaming anyone here, but there comes a point when you need to stand back and ask, “What are they doing here?” I never would have questioned ridiculing a trade by trade deal in the past but this front office IS different. We have no idea what’s in store next (plans for draft)! It’s the beauty of having a FO that is doing something other than trying to sell tickets...and it is so much fun to watch! PS: we are doing it with Russ here (who I really like). He’s not a football guy but DAMN he can market a product!!!!
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) This tanking thing is getting out of control Edited October 31, 2017 by Over 29 years of fanhood
boyst Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 This Car. guy is misinformed. Benjamin was not gone after this year, they picked up his 5th yr option for 8.5 mil and could have kept him if they wanted. I can understand the part about he and Funchess being very similar.I know that part The rest is accurate and echoed on their board
Iron Maiden Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I'll say it again...I love our new management and coaching staff.....loving it !!!!
gobilz Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 I'll say it again...I love our new management and coaching staff.....loving it !!!! wish they were running the Sabres
Chandler#81 Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 My God! Over 1300 of us are currently on the Board! It’s Halloween! Go do something fun! Great addition to the team!
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 The look and feel of the organization vis-a-vis the powers in charge at OBD is as good as it has been since the demise of the Superbowl teams. The way they are working and the decisions they are taking look, in absolutely no way, like typical Bills administrations in the last two decades. I agree. The pain is fading My God! Over 1300 of us are currently on the Board! Its Halloween! Go do something fun! Great addition to the team! I got a text from my brother while trt ing with kids. Had to check here for the scoop
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