Agent 91 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Hasn't made a single right decision his tenure here. Keeps trading away the only talented players on our roster and for what? Has anyone taken a look at our DT depth, its horrible. He just handed out a pro bowl DT in the prime of his career for pennies. NONE of his trades/signings have made any sense. complete shambles. People think this is a good trade just bc we are 4-2. Wait until November rolls around and the real Buffalo Bills show up just like the last 17 years folks. This fan base is legit the most delusional in the NFL. no joke. If anyone is responsible for the success of our team right now its DOUG WHALEY This is the only move im happy about. You are right the real Bills... I dont know when but I am waiting. My heart cant take any more dissapointment. I think thats why I dont care. I want a good show who competes on all facets of the game. I wish they would have just made a move in the off season and we could have taken our punishment this year. Edited October 28, 2017 by Agent 91
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 All this complaining and we have a chance to be 5-2 in two days.
Green Lightning Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 its october buddy Which is a bit early for your "sky is falling" threads, well maybe not.
The Wiz Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Reminds me of little big league movie about the pitcher that doesn't want to play for the team. "What's the going rate for an absent minded pitcher that can't strike anyone out?". That's what we got for dareus.
jimmy10 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Hasn't made a single right decision his tenure here. Keeps trading away the only talented players on our roster and for what? Has anyone taken a look at our DT depth, its horrible. He just handed out a pro bowl DT in the prime of his career for pennies. NONE of his trades/signings have made any sense. complete shambles. People think this is a good trade just bc we are 4-2. Wait until November rolls around and the real Buffalo Bills show up just like the last 17 years folks. This fan base is legit the most delusional in the NFL. no joke. If anyone is responsible for the success of our team right now its DOUG WHALEY Sounds like you're.... concerned?
McNubbins Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I don't think Dareus was worth what we were paying him. Or rather, what the previous GM signed him for. Four tackles and 1 sack this season. He's not worth keeping in this system. The process, trust it.
JM2009 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Jay SkurskiVerified account @JaySkurski 46m46 minutes ago More Beane says "we're always looking to improve the #Bills" when asked about the upcoming trade deadline.
BillsFan4 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I find it is a good idea not to make new threads or post too much when I am emotional over a decision the Bills just made. Just saying is all... And IMO there is no way you can say Beane is in the top 3 worst GM's when he hasn't even made a single draft pick yet. He hired a top notch scouting and personnel staff (on paper). IMO it looks to be the best front office/scouting staff we've had in a long time. This team will be built through the draft. So until we see how they build through the draft we can't really judge. Plus as of now I really trust McDermott and he trusts Beane. We also know that McD has been trying to trade Dareus since the offseason. From what I've read there is good reason. Dareus wasn't buying in, wasn't putting in the work, had to have Kyle Williams telling him the play calls and what he's supposed to be doing. That's unacceptable at his salary level. There was obviously things going on behind the scenes that we were not privy to... IMO You need your highest paid players to be leaders on the team, because they are usually going to be looked at as leaders anyway just because of their salary.
Nuncha Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 He is getting rid of the dead weight on this team, and a HUGE chunk is now history. Way too early to say he is one of the worst.
TPS Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 One of the worst GM's in history has taken the Bills out of salary cap purgatory and he hasn't even been here a year yet. Nice job beanie boy! Losing all of these "great players" and McD has them playing at a playoff level. The future looks bright...
BillsFan130 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) I got to agree with you to a certain degree. I didn't mind the other trades, but this one doesn't make much sense to me. I know they are trying to get rid of cap space, but still.... They are 4-2 and in the middle of a playoff race and they traded a starting DT for a 6th round pick. I dont think Dareus is even close to playing at a probowl level, but nevertheless he is one of their best options at DT, and at worse he provides great depth. In saying that, It is way too early to say he is a horrible GM but I really did not like this move Edited October 28, 2017 by billsfan11
zonabb Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Damn. You can't and won't ever win with selfish, stupid, and lazy players. Pure raw talent is useless without drive, passion motivation, intelligence, and commitment to teamwork. Dareus is a child. And he's has not dominated as he should given his talent so you can't overlook transgressions when they're no dominate. LT was a drunk and coke head but he dominated so the Giants looked the other way and paid him. I't not advocating that, but saying that it's easier to look the other way when a guy with god given talent dominates. Dareus just isn't worth it. Watkins was outshined by Woods here and is again in LA. Ragland and Darby were scheme none-fits and Cardale was a project. This is the Patriots methods, which I have watched and appreciated for years. Create a culture of accountability, responsibility and professionalism. Treat players like adults and draft smart, committed, intelligent players who hate to lose and are willing to put in the time and effort to earn their paychecks. Pure athletic talent absent brains is useless. More Tre Whites, less Marcel Dareus'. How many first round athletic freaks do you need to see flame our here before you realize that it's more than a 40 time? Mike Williams, Leodis McKelvin, Erik Flowers, JP Losman, CJ Spiller, Aaron Maybin, Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch... all since 2000. All physically gifted, all sucked. Too large of contingent of football fans are brawn over brains, emotion over ration. Finally we have a GM and coach on the same page with a clear plan to build a winner. Let it play out. If we get a QB, this model works.
blogic2 Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I have no problem with letting Dareus go but I do believe that he should have held out for more than a sixth round pick. At least tell me that it's a conditional pick that could end up being a 4th based on performance and usage.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 just bc Watkins isn't producing on the Rams doesn't mean he wouldn't have here. Him and Tyrod has amazing chemistry. He is only 24 and finally healthy again. And Beane traded him for a CB that most likely will play less than 10 games a year amazing chemistry ?
Max Fischer Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Get a grip. The Bills now have have considerable cap flexibility, they have good players that fit their systems, have stockpiled 10 picks and they are frggin are 4-2, with have a decent chance at the playoffs. At worse, Beane is a good GM. I got to agree with you to a certain degree. I didn't mind the other trades, but this one doesn't make much sense to me. I know they are trying to get rid of cap space, but still.... They are 4-2 and in the middle of a playoff race and they traded a starting DT for a 6th round pick. I dont think Dareus is even close to playing at a probowl level, but nevertheless he is one of their best options at DT, and at worse he provides great depth. In saying that, It is way too early to say he is a horrible GM but I really did not like this move Barely starting and not even remotely playing to his contract. Several DTs have out played him or matched his performance, he’s one toke from a one year suspension and if we think he’s average now, what would the Bills get for him in a year or two (and tens o millions dollars later)?
stinky finger Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Joe BuscagliaVerified account @JoeBuscaglia 15m15 minutes agoMore #Bills GM Brandon Beane said if they cannot trade Anquan Boldin, that he has no plans of releasing the player from his contract. Mike RodakVerified account @mikerodak 1h1 hour agoMore The Bills will save $5.73 million off their 2017 salary cap and $2.375 million off their 2018 salary cap. 2019-21 years get wiped out. Absolutely brilliant!
Helpmenow Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Damn. You can't and won't ever win with selfish, stupid, and lazy players. Pure raw talent is useless without drive, passion motivation, intelligence, and commitment to teamwork. Dareus is a child. And he's has not dominated as he should given his talent so you can't overlook transgressions when they're no dominate. LT was a drunk and coke head but he dominated so the Giants looked the other way and paid him. I't not advocating that, but saying that it's easier to look the other way when a guy with god given talent dominates. Dareus just isn't worth it. Watkins was outshined by Woods here and is again in LA. Ragland and Darby were scheme none-fits and Cardale was a project. This is the Patriots methods, which I have watched and appreciated for years. Create a culture of accountability, responsibility and professionalism. Treat players like adults and draft smart, committed, intelligent players who hate to lose and are willing to put in the time and effort to earn their paychecks. Pure athletic talent absent brains is useless. More Tre Whites, less Marcel Dareus'. How many first round athletic freaks do you need to see flame our here before you realize that it's more than a 40 time? Mike Williams, Leodis McKelvin, Erik Flowers, JP Losman, CJ Spiller, Aaron Maybin, Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch... all since 2000. All physically gifted, all sucked. Too large of contingent of football fans are brawn over brains, emotion over ration. Finally we have a GM and coach on the same page with a clear plan to build a winner. Let it play out. If we get a QB, this model works. Willis was decent
skibum Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I have no problem with letting Dareus go but I do believe that he should have held out for more than a sixth round pick. At least tell me that it's a conditional pick that could end up being a 4th based on performance and usage. I'm with you - why even bother for such a low pick? Better to just keep him in the rotation through this season. He's been disappointing, but he's still a better DT than anyone on the team not named Kyle Williams. I would rather have his services now and straight up cut him in the off-season, than lose him for a likely-meaningless draft pick.
H2o Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 How many first round athletic freaks do you need to see flame our here before you realize that it's more than a 40 time? Mike Williams, Leodis McKelvin, Erik Flowers, JP Losman, CJ Spiller, Aaron Maybin, Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch... all since 2000. All physically gifted, all sucked. Willis McGahee was a good RB in this league for many years and Lynch was an All Pro who helped Seattle win a SB. I don't think they by any means "sucked".
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