MAJBobby Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 and then we're on the hook for another year of the cap hit. No we wouldnt have been. But keep thinking the trigger was the third day of the new year.
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 So for those that keep saying Dareus is constantly double teamed. He played 41 snaps against Tampa. Dareus was doubled on 12 of those snaps or 29%. 71% of the snaps Dareus took he was not double teamed. OMG who is going to take all the double teams now??!!!?? Probably Kyle or Hughes? Is it good they will see more attention?
MAJBobby Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) What happens if an earthquake swallows up the Ralph? The guy underperformed, wasn't worth the big salary, and he's gone. And there are 4 other DTs there that can play. And the D especially the run D will be fine, as it was when Dareus wasn't in the field. Here we go with the sunk cost. Now you are paying much less of a player over 10M in cap. So say they re-sign the cut again DT in Coleman now you are giving Coleman 12M against the cap this year and add the replacement next year to 14.5M and that is his real number Edited October 29, 2017 by MAJBobby
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Here we go with the sunk cost. Now you are paying much less of a player over 10M in cap. So say they re-sign the cut again DT in Coleman now you are giving Coleman 12M against the cap this year and add the replacement next year to 14.5M and that is his real number Coleman getting 12 million? What are you talking about?
The Dean Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Look how high Dareus was in this post-contract-signing interview with Chris Brown back in 2015. We should have known... http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/Watch-Marcell-Dareus-Signs-Contract-Extension/877f1a83-50ce-4dff-bda3-ae666bb74d1b brown looks high as well. it's the squint in his eye that gave it away. Whaley is someone who always looked completely stoned, to me.
Bill_with_it Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 So for those that keep saying Dareus is constantly double teamed. He played 41 snaps against Tampa. Dareus was doubled on 12 of those snaps or 29%. 71% of the snaps Dareus took he was not double teamed. OMG who is going to take all the double teams now??!!!??This is fantastic.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Coleman getting 12 million? What are you talking about? .....Grandma always taught us old fellas that "actions speak louder than words".......think the old girl meant Dareus......he wanted out period...........
MAJBobby Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Coleman getting 12 million? What are you talking about?You are STILL Paying Darues. So whichever player you sign to replace Dareus his dead money counts as how much is spent on said player. That is SUNK COST So will the player that Bills sign to replace Darues be worth double digit cap hit this year? And a double digit cap hit next year as well?? Edited October 29, 2017 by MAJBobby
Bill_with_it Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Coleman getting 12 million? What are you talking about?Hes ridiculously attaching dareus cost to cedrics cost and adding them together in effort to try and make a shaky at best argument.
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 You are STILL Paying Darues. So whichever player you sign to replace Dareus his dead money counts as how much is spent on said player. That is SUNK COST So will the player that Bills sign to replace Darues be worth double digit cap hit this year? And a double digit cap hit next year as well?? Yes they lose dead money to get rid of a dead player. But save some they can use on a live player.
MAJBobby Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Hes ridiculously attaching dareus cost to cedrics cost and adding them together in effort to try and make a shaky at best argument. Wrong it is a very true and correct way. You had Dareus on this team for his Sunk cost contract. You chose to fet rid of him causing still 10M plus to be assigned right now to No other DT. So essentially paying 10M for nada to help the Dt rotation. You sign a new DT to fill Dareus spot in the rotation you are assigning double digit cap hit to a lesser player. So just remember that people that say Dareus wasnt worth his cap hit Yes they lose dead money to get rid of a dead player. But save some they can use on a live player. No ****. So when his replacement is signed you now have that replacement as the vaule of his contract plus the dead money
Coach Tuesday Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 This thread has inevitably turned into three posters repeating themselves for pages on end.
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Wrong it is a very true and correct way. You had Dareus on this team for his Sunk cost contract. You chose to fet rid of him causing still 10M plus to be assigned right now to No other DT. So essentially paying 10M for nada to help the Dt rotation. You sign a new DT to fill Dareus spot in the rotation you are assigning double digit cap hit to a lesser player. So just remember that people that say Dareus wasnt worth his cap hit No ****. So when his replacement is signed you now have that replacement as the vaule of his contract plus the dead money
Big Turk Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) I think the media wrongly calculated its effect on the cap making it seem impossible. Bills actually GAIN $2 million in cap space by cutting him, not LOSE cap space next year. Yes, they eat $14 million in dead money but save $16 million in bonus and salary. Media should be reporting its net cap effect not just the "Dead Money" Edited October 29, 2017 by matter2003
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Wrong it is a very true and correct way. You had Dareus on this team for his Sunk cost contract. You chose to fet rid of him causing still 10M plus to be assigned right now to No other DT. So essentially paying 10M for nada to help the Dt rotation. You sign a new DT to fill Dareus spot in the rotation you are assigning double digit cap hit to a lesser player. So just remember that people that say Dareus wasnt worth his cap hit No ****. So when his replacement is signed you now have that replacement as the vaule of his contract plus the dead money Your error is insisting a guy like Coleman would be a lesser player. If Dareus brought it every play he would be. But Dareus doesn't and that's why he's gone. And before you start with your stacking crap, Scott showed the last game the majority of the time he was single teamed.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 .....LMAO!.....I dare anyone to top this..........
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Hes ridiculously attaching dareus cost to cedrics cost and adding them together in effort to try and make a shaky at best argument. When dareus is getting X cap hit regardless- its a reasonable discussion. The truer way to frame it would be dareus actually only costing the cap savings. ie cedric at his contract or dareus at a likewise low dollar deal... but like Bobby I find most posters more quickly grab the idea of the roster spot taking up a certain cap hit regardless so who would you rather have.
MAJBobby Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Your error is insisting a guy like Coleman would be a lesser player. If Dareus brought it every play he would be. But Dareus doesn't and that's why he's gone. And before you start with your stacking crap, Scott showed the last game the majority of the time he was single teamed. Would coleman or any street FA be worth a double dogit cap hit?
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Your error is insisting a guy like Coleman would be a lesser player. If Dareus brought it every play he would be. But Dareus doesn't and that's why he's gone. And before you start with your stacking crap, Scott showed the last game the majority of the time he was single teamed. So heads up - contract ignored- just play inthe field: Week 17, big third down coming up and we stop them we make the playoffs... your walking Cedric out there over dareus if both are on your bench?
mikemac2001 Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 So heads up - contract ignored- just play inthe field: Week 17, big third down coming up and we stop them we make the playoffs... your walking Cedric out there over dareus if both are on your bench? dareus would be suspended so easy choice
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