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Good post. I feel similar but compartmentalize it. The entire issue has absolutely zero affect on watching the team or games or NFL football. Zero. Regardless of who is right or wrong.

 

I don't mind talking about the social issues, individual actions or comments, and conversing/arguing with idjits. ;)

 

See the thing is... there are places I go to talk about social issues. When it comes to football, I see nothing but talking points and bad political discourse. There's never been a comment I've seen in a football forum that's helped reshape the way I feel about a social topic. That's not even saying that I'm actively trying to be close-minded or that I'm being difficult, it's just this isn't the proper mechanism for it. We're more divided now than ever before and some of us watch football to get away from that.

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He should have said the clowns are running the circus. Then the only the redheads would be upset.

That is good. Very good. You are a problem solver.

 

He would have been self deprecating by calling himself(and owners) the circus. I think this statement would have gone over unnoticed.

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Damn. I feel like freedom of speech not being the same as freedom of consequences shouldn't be hard for people to understand. Kneel and it may have adverse consequences. Equate NFL players to criminals, it may have adverse consequences. You're free to say and do anything you want; it doesn't mean you're free of any problems that it may create.

 

Understand now?

 

 

Tremendous, BC. Well said.

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Damn. I feel like freedom of speech not being the same as freedom of consequences shouldn't be hard for people to understand. Kneel and it may have adverse consequences. Equate NFL players to criminals, it may have adverse consequences. You're free to say and do anything you want; it doesn't mean you're free of any problems that it may create.

 

Understand now?

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I don't think people understood that "Inmates Running the Asylum" is just a colloquialism and metaphor about there needing to be someone in charge. It doesn't literally mean that the players are prisoners in this context. I get the sensitivity of the players given the atmosphere of the league and the country. Seems to me like it was a bad choice of words and even though in context they aren't ill intended it definitely can come across that way.

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See the thing is... there are places I go to talk about social issues. When it comes to football, I see nothing but talking points and bad political discourse. There's never been a comment I've seen in a football forum that's helped reshape the way I feel about a social topic. That's not even saying that I'm actively trying to be close-minded or that I'm being difficult, it's just this isn't the proper mechanism for it. We're more divided now than ever before and some of us watch football to get away from that.

Bingo, 100% spot on.

 

We are more divided now than we have ever been, absolutely true. All this rhetoric is NOT go to change any hearts or minds, anyone idealistically naive enough to believe this will be sadly disappointed.

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Why is it sad though? How does it effect you?

 

Am I the only one that just doesn't care about this stuff? I keep seeing these threads get started on a weekly basis and 75% of you guys just talk in circles. I don't watch or follow football for it's politics. I also don't care if the players kneel. I don't care if there are flyovers. I watch football to be entertained by the sport, not by it's fans and their political persuasions. It's not like I don't have my own ideologies, but lately I have tried as hard as I can to separate them entirely from watching football.

This^

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this thread seems to be going well.

 

seems we now live in a "you hurt my little feelings" society.

 

softies when it comes to the kneeling, softies when it comes to an owner calling players inmates.

 

as for them walking out, go for it. let the drama continue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bennett broke the law? Really? I have not heard that anywhere. Do you have inside information here or are you just making stuff up? And tell us again how he lied?

He claimed police racism and police misconduct... it is illegal to falsly report an incident. Then it was proven with cameras then none of what he claimed happened.
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this thread seems to be going well.

 

seems we now live in a "you hurt my little feelings" society.

 

softies when it comes to the kneeling, softies when it comes to an owner calling players inmates.

 

as for them walking out, go for it. let the drama continue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

the owners and players need to come to some sort of agreement to put this in the past. But just like CBA negotiations, it's never easy with these 2 groups.

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If it gets any worse, have the owners lock out the employees and have them sit for two years. I'm all for that. Bunch of misfits that can't play nice in the sandbox.

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Why is it sad though? How does it effect you?

 

Am I the only one that just doesn't care about this stuff? I keep seeing these threads get started on a weekly basis and 75% of you guys just talk in circles. I don't watch or follow football for it's politics. I also don't care if the players kneel. I don't care if there are flyovers. I watch football to be entertained by the sport, not by it's fans and their political persuasions. It's not like I don't have my own ideologies, but lately I have tried as hard as I can to separate them entirely from watching football.

 

I agree with this 100%

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He claimed police racism and police misconduct... it is illegal to falsly report an incident. Then it was proven with cameras then none of what he claimed happened.

I don't believe this is correct. He may have been incorrect in his view of what happened, but i don't believe being wrong(and not saying that he was right or wrong) is a crime in this type of instance.

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the owners and players need to come to some sort of agreement to put this in the past. But just like CBA negotiations, it's never easy with these 2 groups.

Yup. Just about finding some middle ground and respecting each other. I hope we can get to that point soon

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This is the dumbest thing I've read since the Anquan Boldin thread.

 

It's a common phrase, with a colloquial understanding, which was stated incorrectly. There is no inference of racism.

 

This is just more horseshit from idiots looking for things to be offended about where no offense exists.

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Yea but just make sure the Rams owner doesn't say that to Robert Woods.

 

I believe the original phrase was "We can't have Robert Woods running the asylum, he's f#$&ing crazy!"

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Agreed. I'm curious if he still would have been upset if he used the more common "inmates running the asylum" instead of prison.

This is a great point. And no I dont think so. But it makes you wonder why McNairs mind decides on prison instead when thats not even the proper phrase.

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