Texans ready to walk out on owner after “inmate” comments

[TakeYouToTasker]

Did you respond to the wrong quoted post here? Everything he said is a fact. It had nothing to do with how our political system works. A majority (not just a plurality) of Americans disapprove of Trumps performance and a majority did not vote for him.

His post was in response to the argument that the behavior of leftists, specifically to their unfounded charges of racism against those who they disagree with politically and the drive to undo the republican democratic process by impeachment on purely political grounds, is doubling down on the exact sort of misbehavior which led directly to the election of President Trump, and will lead to more President Trump.

 

His counterpoint was nearly exactly the same as the one that was used to say that President Trump could never be elected in the first place.

 

He's wrong, and he (the larger he) needs to stop being wrong, because he's being wrong to the detriment of political discourse in this country which has deteriorated to the point that we elected an !@#$ for the sole reason that the !@#$ stood up to leftist bullying.

 

And given that he thinks things will be different next time if only he throws his tantrum more loudly seems to indicate that he doesn't understand our electoral process.

Edited October 29, 2017 by TakeYouToTasker

[BadLandsMeanie]

 

Of course. I know many who regret voting for him as well.

 

He also lost the popular vote to an awful candidate, and his popularity has been plummeting ever since. He hasn't delivered anything and is completely spiraling right now. Sorry, I just can't buy that he's the favorite in 2020 at this point. His own party doesn't want him.

IM not a Trump supporter. But if I may since you touched on something I have noted.

 

If you are a Democrat, you don't have a party. The Clinton Machine controls "your" party. I believe that is just a known thing isn't it?

 

Why don't you guys react to that? Or , like, even seem to notice it?

 

It is true that Republicans did NOT want Trump. But since they hadn't established air tight control, they had him shoved down their throats anyway, because of VOTING and Primaries.

 

Y'all got "caucuses" .

 

Your problem is bigger than Trump because you don't actually even get to choose your candidates in a fair and honest process. And as far as I see in the press at least, Democrats are oblivious to that.

 

 

Anyway was just asking I don't mean t derail the thread topic.

I have not read all the replies in this thread but...

 

I have seen that some think that this is just a common phrase that the Texans players are reacting sensitively to.

 

Well, consider the fact that the meeting was called to discuss the players' protest to draw attention to racial inequality and the vast majority of protesters are black.

 

Who then are the inmates? Google the incarceration rates by race yourself and you will have to agree that this is not just a simple turn of phrase.

I think it is , if you don't think of black people as inmates.

Edited October 29, 2017 by BadLandsMeanie

[Augie]

Employees dictating to the employers, people. It’s nothing more than that! If you try to make it anything more, you have an agenda.

[JaCrispy]

thanks, i appreciate the time and effort you put in to this. i realize there isn't a set answer possible but this type of understanding is more than looking at the 1+1=2 it is looking at the work done to figure out the 1 and the 1 to get the two.

 

unfortunately, for political gains there is little reasoning to have communication as it only allows for opinions to be swayed. in our oligarchy opinions and free thorught are not permitted which is creating the fascists of the antifascist movement.

Yeah it is definitely crazy to see...to some the ends justify the means no matter what the cost...and these people seem to be engaging in the same behavior they claim they're against...fortunately I think most see right through it, as it is hard to respect fascism of any kind.

[thebug]

Looks like there was a jailbreak on D today.

[blogic2]

 

No, it's a simple turn of phrase.

 

You're one of those morons who thinks "niggardly" is racist, aren't you?

No, I am actually a Harvard educated African American who is acutely aware of what is racist and what is not.

 

I didn't call anyone any names here. Read my original post again. Using "inmates" and "prison" when you are expressly discussing the actions of players who the vast majority are African-Americans reveals the mindset of that person.

[boyst]

No, I am actually a Harvard educated African American who is acutely aware of what is racist and what is not.

 

I didn't call anyone any names here. Read my original post again. Using "inmates" and "prison" when you are expressly discussing the actions of players who the vast majority are African-Americans reveals the mindset of that person.

no. it vastly reveals your prejudices.

 

not everyone thinks of prison and inmates and equates that to blacks.

 

by the way, after vietnam i went to harvard, too. i think i was in healthcare for 17 years, i can't remember. i think i'm black, too, forgot. or asian. gosh. i can't remember what i am because it matters so much on an internet message board to establish that i am a 57 year old man with 16 kids and a goat.

[thebug]

No, I am actually a Harvard educated African American who is acutely aware of what is racist and what is not.

 

I didn't call anyone any names here. Read my original post again. Using "inmates" and "prison" when you are expressly discussing the actions of players who the vast majority are African-Americans reveals the mindset of that person.

What are you trying to say? You sound racist.

[Augie]

No, I am actually a Harvard educated African American who is acutely aware of what is racist and what is not.

 

I didn't call anyone any names here. Read my original post again. Using "inmates" and "prison" when you are expressly discussing the actions of players who the vast majority are African-Americans reveals the mindset of that person.

I’m not black, and I only visited Harvard, but I disagree. If you think you own this reality, you are wrong. It’s an expression. It can be racist if you want to make it racist....but only in your mind.

no. it vastly reveals your prejudices.

 

not everyone thinks of prison and inmates and equates that to blacks.

 

by the way, after vietnam i went to harvard, too. i think i was in healthcare for 17 years, i can't remember. i think i'm black, too, forgot. or asian. gosh. i can't remember what i am because it matters so much on an internet message board to establish that i am a 57 year old man with 16 kids and a goat.

Boyst was also there for several moon landkings, so feel free to ignore here...

[JaCrispy]

Employees dictating to the employers, people. Its nothing more than that! If you try to make it anything more, you have an agenda.

Don't they kind of already do this through the CBA though- where the owners agree to some of the players demands?

 

If both sides eventually agree to have players stand for the anthem, I would be ok with that...to me there is no right or wrong answer as both sides have legit points of view imo. To me it is just about what everyone chooses to agree to.

 

What do u think?

Edited October 29, 2017 by JaCrispy

[blogic2]

no. it vastly reveals your prejudices.

 

not everyone thinks of prison and inmates and equates that to blacks.

 

by the way, after vietnam i went to harvard, too. i think i was in healthcare for 17 years, i can't remember. i think i'm black, too, forgot. or asian. gosh. i can't remember what i am because it matters so much on an internet message board to establish that i am a 57 year old man with 16 kids and a goat.

No. My point was that the owners were discussing the actions of black players so the "inmates" in this phrase would be those black players.

 

For that I was called a moron. That's all.

[boyst]

No. My point was that the owners were discussing the actions of black players so the "inmates" in this phrase would be those black players.

 

For that I was called a moron. That's all.

oh, so at harvard did they not cover language arts or reading?

 

a term thats been around almost 200 years is raysis because you're sensitive = yep, i learned that at harvard, too.

I’m not black, and I only visited Harvard, but I disagree. If you think you own this reality, you are wrong. It’s an expression. It can be racist if you want to make it racist....but only in your mind.

 

Boyst was also there for several moon landkings, so feel free to ignore here...

no, i was not there for the moon landings. i was running oil in alaska with johnny horton.

[Boatdrinks]

I understand and it's a fair point. It's worth noting banking is a pretty old school industry. In my work experience (tech), it's extremely common for employees to make their feelings known to management. We're reasonably expensive to replace, so we exercise that leverage until we move on to greener pastures.

Tech is different. It's run by touchy - feely emotional millennials. Football isn't . Certainly not at the ownership level. Tech really is its own animal. It's also known for being discriminatory , not that I care about that that but it is.

[Augie]

Don't they kind of already do this through the CBA though- where the owners agree to some of the players demands?

If both sides eventually agree to have players stand for the anthem, I would be ok with that...to me there is no right or wrong answer as both sides have legit points of view imo. To me it is just about what everyone chooses to agree to.

What do u think?

I do FULLY agree that they vote with the CBA. It’s tricky because the average career is so short (compared to other sports), so the players tend to want their money NOW. It’s in no one's best interest to turn people off to the league. I tried to give a buddy a ticket for the game in Cincinnati and he refused. He joined us at the tailgate, but would NOT support the NFL. He’s NOT a racist, but I understood where he was coming from.

[LA Grant]

oh, so at harvard did they not cover language arts or reading?

 

a term thats been around almost 200 years is raysis because you're sensitive = yep, i learned that at harvard, too.

no, i was not there for the moon landings. i was running oil in alaska with johnny horton.

 

Why is it that you're in every thread about race with these absolutely terrible posts? It's like you have some bizarre obsession with shouting your hostile stupidity as much as possible.

 

34,000+ posts of barely literate, frequently racist garbage. My goodness.

[JaCrispy]

I do FULLY agree that they vote with the CBA. Its tricky because the average career is so short (compared to other sports), so the players tend to want their money NOW. Its in no one's best interest to turn people off to the league. I tried to give a buddy a ticket for the game in Cincinnati and he refused. He joined us at the tailgate, but would NOT support the NFL. Hes NOT a racist, but I understood where he was coming from.

Yup that's certainly understandable...I know people like that as well

[blogic2]

oh, so at harvard did they not cover language arts or reading?

 

a term thats been around almost 200 years is raysis because you're sensitive = yep, i learned that at harvard, too.

no, i was not there for the moon landings. i was running oil in alaska with johnny horton.

They do. That's why I know that context means everything when something is said. A lot of horrible things have been around for hundreds of years.

[PolishDave]

No, I am actually a Harvard educated African American who is acutely aware of what is racist and what is not.

 

I didn't call anyone any names here. Read my original post again. Using "inmates" and "prison" when you are expressly discussing the actions of players who the vast majority are African-Americans reveals the mindset of that person.

 

Isn't the term "African-American" racist in and of itself?

 

Why don't people call themselves Polish-American or Irish-American or Eskimo-American or Jew-American or Iraqi-American or Brazilian American or Chilean American or ....(you insert the rest).

 

What the hell makes you different than any other American? Some kind of ego thing?

 

I mean really WTF?

Edited October 30, 2017 by PolishDave

[boyst]

They do. That's why I know that context means everything when something is said. A lot of horrible things have been around for hundreds of years.

is it possible to get a refund from the school? i think you should ask.

 

that, or man up.

 

it might be cheaper to just man up.

 

consider either.

 

Why is it that you're in every thread about race with these absolutely terrible posts? It's like you have some bizarre obsession with shouting your hostile stupidity as much as possible.

 

34,000+ posts of barely literate, frequently racist garbage. My goodness.

i'm out of lotion and have very little else to distract me.

 

btw, who are you?

[Augie]

No. My point was that the owners were discussing the actions of black players so the "inmates" in this phrase would be those black players.

 

For that I was called a moron. That's all.

First of all, it was the comment of ONE owner. White players also took a knee. Be objective, and correct. I didn’t call you a moron , but you seem to ask for it.