NewEra Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 What is a bunch of bull **** though? Look at how worked up you've gotten? It's bs that this is becoming more fuel
thebandit27 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 This is ridiculous. Crazy how big this could become. Bad timing with the comment. I surely don't believe he meant it in "those terms". Sherman is awful. I wish he was the next player shunned by NFL owners and not given a contract. That won't happen, because--unlike Kaepernick--Sherman behaves as though football is his number 1 priority. The reason Kaep doesn't have a job is because coaches want QBs that are focused primarily on football. For better or worse, Kaep isn't.
bobobonators Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Why is it sad though? How does it effect you? Am I the only one that just doesn't care about this stuff? I keep seeing these threads get started on a weekly basis and 75% of you guys just talk in circles. I don't watch or follow football for it's politics. I also don't care if the players kneel. I don't care if there are flyovers. I watch football to be entertained by the sport, not by it's fans and their political persuasions. It's not like I don't have my own ideologies, but lately I have tried as hard as I can to separate them entirely from watching football. 100% agree. The NFL in general and this forum has been inundated lately with racial innuendos.
The Wiz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Why is it sad though? How does it effect you? Am I the only one that just doesn't care about this stuff? I keep seeing these threads get started on a weekly basis and 75% of you guys just talk in circles. I don't watch or follow football for it's politics. I also don't care if the players kneel. I don't care if there are flyovers. I watch football to be entertained by the sport, not by it's fans and their political persuasions. It's not like I don't have my own ideologies, but lately I have tried as hard as I can to separate them entirely from watching football. That's why it is sad. You shouldn't have to try to separate politics with watching football. Do you ever watch baseball or hockey or any other sport and have to deal with hearing about this player kneeling or that player being offended because of something? It's entertainment and the players, owners and media are making it political.
boyst Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 What is a bunch of bull **** though? Look at how worked up you've gotten? this isn't worked up. This is relaxing on my bed before checking on a newborn calf, a sick calf and checking my hives. If i got worked up over something so stupid I would check out of the incident and not engage it. I wouldn't worry a minute or care because it doesn't effect me. Instead, I just share my 3¢.
voodoo poonani Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 what does race have to do with breaking the law. rule of law should prevail (even though it doesn't). regardless, noone should be put in jail for unpaid parking tickets. the penalty has to fit the crime. if someone can't pay their parking tickets they should lose their ability to drive or some such. Consider application of the law. It's not that people shouldn't be punished, but they aren't punished proportionately. Non-violent offenders are more likely to go to jail if they are a minority. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Prisoner_Demographics.svg Equality doesn't mean we all have the same everything, it means we're all treated the same regardless of what we look like or how much money we make. That has never been achieved, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for it.
YoloinOhio Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 Yeah, that's the most interesting part of it to me--that McNair got the phrase wrong lol I thought the same
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Have to agree here. I opened the article expecting to see something egregious and found a pretty common saying. the more common saying is inmates running the asylum.
The Wiz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Yeah, that's the most interesting part of it to me--that McNair got the phrase wrong Freudian slip I'm sure.
mannc Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 You know, there are an awful lot of racist NFL fans. No kidding. And the NFL is terrified of alienating them.
Doc Brown Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Hopefully he demands a trade. My first thought as well. Make it happen OBD. Want O'Leary? He's white.
The Wiz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 My first thought as well. Make it happen OBD. Want O'Leary? He's white. Give them Zay. He wouldn't have caught the comment.
thebandit27 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Totally agree. I think it's a huge over-reaction. You know, it just hit me...Texans players are contemplating walking out of practice because their owner used a common phrase (incorrectly-- ) Meanwhile, there's a kid playing for this team that took a whole 1 day off of practice after burying his infant daughter. I know which guy I admire more; that's for certain.
YoloinOhio Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 My first thought as well. Make it happen OBD. Want O'Leary? He's white.oLeary and oReilly for Hopkins. And Watson.
Doc Brown Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 And the NFL is terrified of alienating them. ALL of this could have been avoided if Goodell banned players from protesting anthem as soon as Kaepernick started it. Having a loose cannon as president hasn't help either.
YoloinOhio Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 Hopefully the controversy spills over into their season and they fall further behind the Bills in the WC raceyep
cba fan Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) At the owners meetings https://amp.usatoday.com/story/806600001/ @adamschefter Texans WR DeAndre Hopkins absence from practice today was related to Bob McNairs comments, per source. Texans players wanted to walkout today in response to owner Bob McNairs comments, per @sarahbarshop. Had to be persuaded to stay. If a white owner said this in relation to a group of white employees, all the white employees would understand the context and normal use of that statement just means you can not always let the employees run the company's big decisions. It would not resonate at all with them as being insensitive, racial, or political, and would just be an innocent common description. McNair has to be smarter and know his minority audience and not use those sensitive comments they might consider insensitve. That is the sensitive political and racial environment we live in right now. Owners need guidance on public statements. Edited October 27, 2017 by cba fan
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Hopefully the controversy spills over into their season and they fall further behind the Bills in the WC race W/O any of this controversy, they have a tough enough task with facing the Seahawks on the road this Sunday. Edited October 27, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
Domdab99 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) I guess players only feel players have free speech rights ? Everyone has free speech rights, but everyone will also be held responsible for what they say. Even Bob McNair. Why is this so hard to understand? Free speech means having the right to say what you want. But it doesn't give you the right to expect everyone else to listen to you or to agree with you. Frees speech comes with consequences. Edited October 27, 2017 by Domdab99
mannc Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) It's just an expression--yes, poor choice of words, but good grief...are the players really this thin-skinned?Its not just the racial insensitivity of the remark, which is pretty obvious, especially for the large number of player who grew up in the South. Its the idea of the owners having the same sort of power relationship over the players as a prison warden over the inmates. The NFL talks a lot about its partnership with the players, and this flies in the face of that. Edited October 27, 2017 by mannc
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