TakeYouToTasker Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I honestly don't believe this, it seems that the racists(and I mean the 'proud' racists-kkk and the like) are getting a bit more mainstream. We have a president that defended them recently. It's a real issue. No, they aren't getting more mainstream. They are getting less mainstream in a more interconnected world. They're more visible than they've ever been because of modern media and the internet, but there are fewer of them than ever before.
klos63 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 That's a bull **** example as the stated purpose behind the knee taking was "systemic racial inequality" which is nothing more than calling everyone who disagrees with them racists. When that's what you lead with, you're a piece of garbage. As I read more of your comments it seems like you are adding in your opinion as facts. I have yet to hear any player say that 'everyone' that disagrees with them are racists and I would guess that most, if not all of them would totally disagree with you on that point.
Foxx Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Sorry, but that's a total right wing talking point with no basis of fact behind it. really? are you oblivious to your surroundings?
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Part of the problem is McNair gave 4.5 million to Trump's campaign. A guy that pushed the birther issue for our first black president and called players that knelt SOB's. They're individuals who are entitled to their own opinion and maybe they think he shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt. They were just compared to inmates. Part of the problem is that someone exercised their political rights? If people really believe this way, then it's time to just divide the country in half, because we really aren't going to be able to live together.
BigAL Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Agreed. I'm curious if he still would have been upset if he used the more common "inmates running the asylum" instead of prison. Totally agree. I think it's a huge over-reaction. It would be an overreaction except their in a situation where the principle issue is criminal justice and police reform when it comes to how minorities are treated. So to then make the analogy that the players are the criminals in the criminal justice system is incredibly dumb. Saying asylum instead takes the racial edge off it, and would not have been as offensive. Still would have been dumb though. It's always dumb to call your employees the inmates.
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 As I read more of your comments it seems like you are adding in your opinion as facts. I have yet to hear any player say that 'everyone' that disagrees with them are racists and I would guess that most, if not all of them would totally disagree with you on that point. That's what the act of kneeling to protest systemic racial inequality is.
klos63 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) really? are you oblivious to your surroundings? actually very aware of my surrounding. I certainly don't teach my kids that they are victims of anything, and I don't see that with any of my friends in how they raise their children. That's what the act of kneeling to protest systemic racial inequality is. it's the system, not all the people. Even though we seem to disagree, I don't assume you are aracist just because you don't agree with their cause. The system needs to change and we all know how difficult doing something like that is. No, they aren't getting more mainstream. They are getting less mainstream in a more interconnected world. They're more visible than they've ever been because of modern media and the internet, but there are fewer of them than ever before. You may be correct. Maybe they are fewer in number but greater in influence because of their visibility. Edited October 27, 2017 by klos63
CommonCents Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 You know, it just hit me...Texans players are contemplating walking out of practice because their owner used a common phrase (incorrectly-- ) Meanwhile, there's a kid playing for this team that took a whole 1 day off of practice after burying his infant daughter. I know which guy I admire more; that's for certain. Nicely put. This is getting beyond ridiculous. Parents use that phrase about their own damn kids. Some of these guys need to swallow a big boy bite of life and grow the !@#$ up. I'm sure LT and his family have their hands full with grief and sadness but wouldn't it be great if he could humble these other folks who seemingly just want to be outraged and upset at everything. Have a little perspective. You guys have become rich playing a kids game and you shouldn't be so content with misusing your sphere of influence. If it's really about improving communities and race relations then what exactly is something like today meant to accomplish!!!! Just go away already! Play the GAME.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 100% agree. The NFL in general and this forum has been inundated lately with racial innuendos. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Racism is the 2000s equivalent to McCarthyism and communist witch hunts. It's literally THE SAME BEHAVIOR.
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I've said it before, I'll say it again. Racism is the 2000s equivalent to McCarthyism and communist witch hunts. It's literally THE SAME BEHAVIOR. It's Helter Skelter. Not even kidding.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 That's a bull **** example as the stated purpose behind the knee taking was "systemic racial inequality" which is nothing more than calling everyone who disagrees with them racists. When that's what you lead with, you're a piece of garbage. you really dig these type of topics/threads don't you. kind of makes you feel right at (PPP) home.
klos63 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Nicely put. This is getting beyond ridiculous. Parents use that phrase about their own damn kids. Some of these guys need to swallow a big boy bite of life and grow the !@#$ up. I'm sure LT and his family have their hands full with grief and sadness but wouldn't it be great if he could humble these other folks who seemingly just want to be outraged and upset at everything. Have a little perspective. You guys have become rich playing a kids game and you shouldn't be so content with misusing your sphere of influence. If it's really about improving communities and race relations then what exactly is something like today meant to accomplish!!!! Just go away already! Play the GAME. Don't want to take away from the Logan Thomas tragedy, but why does everyone always say this is a kids game? It's been played by adults for quite some time. I think people say that in order to demean the players in some way. It's wrong.
MiltonWaddams Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I'd often be referred to as a bleeding heart liberal, though that would not be 100% accurate. However, I cannot see any logic to the concern in this matter. This is just ridiculous. McNair used improper wording, but his intent was surely not racist. Just a simple common phrase. Yes, it was ill-timed, but blown so far out of proportion.
IDBillzFan Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 The reason that reality shows exist is because the dumb public eats it up. Actually the reason reality shows exist is because Hollywood actors decided to strike it led to them finding out America doesn't need actors in order to watch TV.
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Don't want to take away from the Logan Thomas tragedy, but why does everyone always say this is a kids game? It's been played by adults for quite some time. I think people say that in order to demean the players in some way. It's wrong. Apparently if you earn a lot of money it is fair game for your owner to insult you at work. It isn't. It is never acceptable to act like that just because you write the cheques.
klos63 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I've said it before, I'll say it again. Racism is the 2000s equivalent to McCarthyism and communist witch hunts. It's literally THE SAME BEHAVIOR. McCarthyism/Communist which hunts were made up scandals. Racism is real. Big difference between the two.
Foxx Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 actually very aware of my surrounding. I certainly don't teach my kids that they are victims of anything, and I don't see that with any of my friends in how they raise their children. i don't mean anything personal by this but, are you sure? there is a strong undercurrent of victimhood that is very prevalent throughout today's society. perhaps it all began when the entitlement programs began....
CommonCents Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I've said it before, I'll say it again. Racism is the 2000s equivalent to McCarthyism and communist witch hunts. It's literally THE SAME BEHAVIOR. It's crazy. Rich old white guy hate. At my last job I was promoted multiple times and made a fair salary, my manager told me something I will never forget. When they would meet with the board the members wouldn't even shake his hand. This is a well paid 250k?anually? successful, intelligent guy, being treated like a peasant. EVERY SLIGHT IS NoT BECAUSE THE COLOR OF YOuR Skin!!!! Yikes. He was white as Casper, as were they. Let's face it that million/Billionaire fraternity doesn't break bread with the rest of us. White/Black/Green
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) McCarthyism/Communist which hunts were made up scandals. Racism is real. Big difference between the two. Wildly and blindly accusing people of being racist over ANY perceived slight is most CERTAINLY the same as McCarthyism. Using accusations of racism to ruin people who aren't is EXACTLY like McCarthyism. Do better. Edited October 27, 2017 by joesixpack
Foxx Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Don't want to take away from the Logan Thomas tragedy, but why does everyone always say this is a kids game? It's been played by adults for quite some time. I think people say that in order to demean the players in some way. It's wrong. not trying to single you out here but... there is a reason why it is called a kids game. that is because most people who play it began playing it as a kid. in fact, most games are kid games. it is a saying, much like, 'the inmates run the asylum'........
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