HappyDays Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 That's the thing though. This place doesn't exhibit it very often at all. Everyone argues with everyone else about everything. There is never a consensus. There wasn't even a consensus on EJ sucks. But there was about the dirty hit. I even saw your point. Just didn't agree with it. I dont think it was a dirty hit. I dont know what Kiko can do. Hes a large football player launching himself at full speed to make a tackle. I think its ridiculous to expect him to let up when Flacco slides at the last second and everything is happening so quickly. Personally I feel personal fouls on QBs should have a much higher standard once the QB passes the line of scrimmage. At that point youve turned yourself into a running back and the same rules should apply.
The Wiz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Pats Tampa game was very good too. Unbelievably, Bills-Jets game is first TNF game that WONT be streamed live on Amazon. NFL Network instead?
K D Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 That's the thing though. This place doesn't exhibit it very often at all. Everyone argues with everyone else about everything. There is never a consensus. There wasn't even a consensus on EJ sucks. But there was about the dirty hit. I even saw your point. Just didn't agree with it.That's fine there's plenty that do. Ganging up and making it personal towards me like some did was unnecessary. Teddy Bruschi agrees, Deion agrees, Cowher agrees, Herm agrees...the QB was going for the first and Kiko was trying to make the play. QB has to slide sooner, don't go for the first. Both sides going full speed at each other, no time to stop in such a bang-bang play. QB can't wait until the last second and then wonder why he got hit. As the rule is written Kiko will get a penalty and fine but there's absolutely no way he's trying to intentionally hurt him on that play. Just doing his job and stopping the ball carrier from getting the first.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Good thing you didn't post this last night. I got crucified for a similar take. People on this forum have absolutely zero tolerance for anyone that has an opinion different from theirs and it's really sad. hmmm You know ..... I never noticed that /sarc NFL Network instead? Isn't it on CBS as well?
The Wiz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 hmmm You know ..... I never noticed that /sarc Isn't it on CBS as well? don't know. I thought Thursday night games were either nfl network or Amazon?
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 don't know. I thought Thursday night games were either nfl network or Amazon? Just NFLN for the Bills at NYJ.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I dont think it was a dirty hit. I dont know what Kiko can do. Hes a large football player launching himself at full speed to make a tackle. I think its ridiculous to expect him to let up when Flacco slides at the last second and everything is happening so quickly. Personally I feel personal fouls on QBs should have a much higher standard once the QB passes the line of scrimmage. At that point youve turned yourself into a running back and the same rules should apply. You keep your head up and don't lead with it when you launch. That's what you do. He led with his head. The only reason his shoulder hit Flacco first was because Flacco slid under him and a tad to the side.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Just NFLN for the Bills at NYJ. I thought Bills games were restricted to the awful Yahoo streaming service
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) I thought Bills games were restricted to the awful Yahoo streaming service They wanted a broader audience to see the wonders of watching McCown play QB. Edited October 27, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Teddy Bruschi agrees, Deion agrees, Cowher agrees, Herm agrees...Well THAT certainly doesn't help your case. I usually totally agree with the stance you are taking. I think a lot of times the defensive guy doesn't have a chance to let up. I don't know if Kiko was intentionally trying to hurt him. I do think Flacco slid late. I just think he led with his head and shouldn't have. Edited October 27, 2017 by Kelly the Dog
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) don't know. I thought Thursday night games were either nfl network or Amazon? Could be a regional thing. Ravens Fish was on both channels last night. Edited October 27, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan
HappyDays Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 You keep your head up and don't lead with it when you launch. That's what you do. He led with his head. The only reason his shoulder hit Flacco first was because Flacco slid under him and a tad to the side. https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/923872449522835456 Looks to me like he very clearly led with the shoulder, especially in the slow motion view. He launches his body at the exact second Flacco slides. I think the personal foul should have been on the Ravens player that pushed Kiko after the play was over. Its football, if you dont want to take a big hit dont slide late.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 This is the oddest season I can remember. Let's hope something even more odd happens.... and the Bills break the drought!! I feel bad for the video editor that works for the fins website. Hard to make a highlight reel from that game.
K D Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Well THAT certainly doesn't help your case. I usually totally agree with the stance you are taking. I think a lot of times the defensive guy doesn't have a chance to let up. I don't know if Kiko was intentionally trying to hurt him. I do think Flacco slid late. I just think he led with his head and shouldn't have. he launched himself to try and stop him from getting to the 1st down line. he got caught in no man's land because once you leave you feet there's no going back. so yes he was wrong to do that given that Flacco did end up sliding but i don't think he should be villianized the way some people want to believe. he's definitely not a dirty head hunter type player. i think both sides are a little at fault and it was a very unfortunate play and Kiko will be fined, no doubt. can't hit a QB in the head
GoBills808 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I dont think it was a dirty hit. I dont know what Kiko can do. Hes a large football player launching himself at full speed to make a tackle. I think its ridiculous to expect him to let up when Flacco slides at the last second and everything is happening so quickly. Personally I feel personal fouls on QBs should have a much higher standard once the QB passes the line of scrimmage. At that point youve turned yourself into a running back and the same rules should apply. There are a lot of former players agreeing with this.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/923872449522835456 Looks to me like he very clearly led with the shoulder, especially in the slow motion view. He launches his body at the exact second Flacco slides. I think the personal foul should have been on the Ravens player that pushed Kiko after the play was over. Its football, if you dont want to take a big hit dont slide late. Looks to me like he led with his head, Flacco slid underneath and to his left (Kiko's right) and then Kiko made a conscious decision to drive his shoulder into Flacco's head. That slo-mo last view from behind made me think a lot worse of Kiko. I think he's suspended and fined.
billykaykay Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Just NFLN for the Bills at NYJ. I think that the games are shown on CBS or FOX in the viewing area of the teams playing. The Bills/Jets game will be on CBS in the Bflo area.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I think that the games are shown on CBS or FOX in the viewing area of the teams playing. The Bills/Jets game will be on CBS in the Bflo area. thats what I thought thanks for confirming Just like when ESPN held the games. Those w/o cable can't watch locally.
4merper4mer Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 You keep your head up and don't lead with it when you launch. That's what you do. He led with his head. The only reason his shoulder hit Flacco first was because Flacco slid under him and a tad to the side. Alonso laughably claimed that he realized the slide was happening too late. Then why was Alonso'd angle getting closer and closer to the ground just as Flacco's was? He lowered his body as he saw Flacco lowering his. And the he put a little oomph on the shot he dished out to his head.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I think that the games are shown on CBS or FOX in the viewing area of the teams playing. The Bills/Jets game will be on CBS in the Bflo area. That's typical.
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