Webster Guy Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 I called this from the beginning and it's looking more and more like the GENIUS screwed up another big trade, possibly as awful as the Seymour trade was. (or beautiful if you're a Bills fan) The Pats traded away Chandler Jones and got a guard (Cooper) and a 2nd round pick from Zona. They traded that pick down into a pair of picks where they selected guard Joe Thuney and WR Malcolm Mitchell. Cooper turned out to be a bust, and Malcolm Mitchell contributed a little last year but can't stay healthy and never even saw the field this year. Thuney is a decent guard by most accounts, ranked average by PFF but that's essentially all they got from the trade. Meanwhile Chandler is ripping it up again this year. 8 sacks already this season and one of the elites at his position. The Patriots defense is awful, and just got worse with Hightower out for the season. To make matters worse, the GENIUS guaranteed $40M to dopey Gilmore, whose cap hit is similar to what the Cards are paying for Jones in his new deal. (Gilmore cap hit $9M this year, then $12M and $14M in year three. And his dead money will be heavy if they dump him. Jones is around $10M cap hit annually) Even without my Patriots Hating Bias, Belichick may be a good coach--as evidenced by his awesome #32 ranked defense this year, and the offensive mastery he showed last year at home without Brady scoring that whopping ZERO points against our mediocre defense), but he sure sucks as a GM. Hey.... at least he has a pleasant, engaging personality and sense of humor.......
Jasovon Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 That Gilmore contract could go down as one of the biggest blunders of this season at least.
Captain Murica Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 That Gilmore contract could go down as one of the biggest blunders of this season at least. Its glorious isnt it? Bills being called a farm team all the while Gilmore and Gillislee struggle.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 I called this from the beginning and it's looking more and more like the GENIUS screwed up another big trade, possibly as awful as the Seymour trade was. (or beautiful if you're a Bills fan) The Pats traded away Chandler Jones and got a guard (Cooper) and a 2nd round pick from Zona. They traded that pick down into a pair of picks where they selected guard Joe Thuney and WR Malcolm Mitchell. Cooper turned out to be a bust, and Malcolm Mitchell contributed a little last year but can't stay healthy and never even saw the field this year. Thuney is a decent guard by most accounts, ranked average by PFF but that's essentially all they got from the trade. Meanwhile Chandler is ripping it up again this year. 8 sacks already this season and one of the elites at his position. The Patriots defense is awful, and just got worse with Hightower out for the season. To make matters worse, the GENIUS guaranteed $40M to dopey Gilmore, whose cap hit is similar to what the Cards are paying for Jones in his new deal. (Gilmore cap hit $9M this year, then $12M and $14M in year three. And his dead money will be heavy if they dump him. Jones is around $10M cap hit annually) Even without my Patriots Hating Bias, Belichick may be a good coach--as evidenced by his awesome #32 ranked defense this year, and the offensive mastery he showed last year at home without Brady scoring that whopping ZERO points against our mediocre defense), but he sure sucks as a GM. Hey.... at least he has a pleasant, engaging personality and sense of humor....... My take is once a cheater, always a cheater. I'm sure Billy got a stern lecture from Roger G. not to pull any funny stuff anymore. And I think for the most part they stick to that promise....except when they need a little help.
Jasovon Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Its glorious isnt it? Bills being called a farm team all the while Gilmore and Gillislee struggle. Noone is claiming that the Patriots have better Bills players than the Bills do anymore that's for sure.
mannc Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 I called this from the beginning and it's looking more and more like the GENIUS screwed up another big trade, possibly as awful as the Seymour trade was. (or beautiful if you're a Bills fan) The Pats traded away Chandler Jones and got a guard (Cooper) and a 2nd round pick from Zona. They traded that pick down into a pair of picks where they selected guard Joe Thuney and WR Malcolm Mitchell. Cooper turned out to be a bust, and Malcolm Mitchell contributed a little last year but can't stay healthy and never even saw the field this year. Thuney is a decent guard by most accounts, ranked average by PFF but that's essentially all they got from the trade. Meanwhile Chandler is ripping it up again this year. 8 sacks already this season and one of the elites at his position. The Patriots defense is awful, and just got worse with Hightower out for the season. To make matters worse, the GENIUS guaranteed $40M to dopey Gilmore, whose cap hit is similar to what the Cards are paying for Jones in his new deal. (Gilmore cap hit $9M this year, then $12M and $14M in year three. And his dead money will be heavy if they dump him. Jones is around $10M cap hit annually) Even without my Patriots Hating Bias, Belichick may be a good coach--as evidenced by his awesome #32 ranked defense this year, and the offensive mastery he showed last year at home without Brady scoring that whopping ZERO points against our mediocre defense), but he sure sucks as a GM. Hey.... at least he has a pleasant, engaging personality and sense of humor....... All true, but I still would not bet against them going back to the Super Bowl again. Their defense is looking better every week, without Gilmore.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Not really sure how you-me-we can be accusing Bellichick of "bad GM-ing" when he is coming off a Super Bowl victory and is tied for the best record in football now even with a bunch of injuries. And yes, I know who his quarterback is. And I truly hate the guy.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Lol. That is one of the most simple, efficient, perfect responses to almost anything posted.
Captain Murica Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Noone is claiming that the Patriots have better Bills players than the Bills do anymore that's for sure. I would love to urninate into Al Michaels Ramen noodles.
Marty McFly Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Noone is claiming that the Patriots have better Bills players than the Bills do anymore that's for sure. Thats probobly the best part besides them dealing with Gilmores finger pointing on blown coverages.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 I called this from the beginning and it's looking more and more like the GENIUS screwed up another big trade, possibly as awful as the Seymour trade was. (or beautiful if you're a Bills fan) The Pats traded away Chandler Jones and got a guard (Cooper) and a 2nd round pick from Zona. They traded that pick down into a pair of picks where they selected guard Joe Thuney and WR Malcolm Mitchell. Cooper turned out to be a bust, and Malcolm Mitchell contributed a little last year but can't stay healthy and never even saw the field this year. Thuney is a decent guard by most accounts, ranked average by PFF but that's essentially all they got from the trade. Meanwhile Chandler is ripping it up again this year. 8 sacks already this season and one of the elites at his position. The Patriots defense is awful, and just got worse with Hightower out for the season. To make matters worse, the GENIUS guaranteed $40M to dopey Gilmore, whose cap hit is similar to what the Cards are paying for Jones in his new deal. (Gilmore cap hit $9M this year, then $12M and $14M in year three. And his dead money will be heavy if they dump him. Jones is around $10M cap hit annually) Even without my Patriots Hating Bias, Belichick may be a good coach--as evidenced by his awesome #32 ranked defense this year, and the offensive mastery he showed last year at home without Brady scoring that whopping ZERO points against our mediocre defense), but he sure sucks as a GM. Hey.... at least he has a pleasant, engaging personality and sense of humor....... ....he probably did and perhaps we're thinking BB is perfect in everything under his HC/GM hat.......but I haven't seen his FIVE rings up for auction or surrender just yet.........maybe he should resign from Pats and return to Cleveland to "help" the Brownies .......would certainly satisfy the naysayers who say BB would be "nothing without Brady"....oh joy...................
Coach Tuesday Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Not really sure how you-me-we can be accusing Bellichick of "bad GM-ing" when he is coming off a Super Bowl victory and is tied for the best record in football now even with a bunch of injuries. And yes, I know who his quarterback is. And I truly hate the guy. Seriously. Who wants to put $$ against the Pats being in the AFC title game?
Mat68 Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 A good qb and great in this case, makes player personel decisions easy. Results are all that matters and with brady they will win alot.
Steptide Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Pats defense may be bad but they're still 5-2. If recall correctly, the Pats defense wasnt all that great the year they beat the Seahawks in the superbowl Edited October 26, 2017 by Steptide
Iron Maiden Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 ....he probably did and perhaps we're thinking BB is perfect in everything under his HC/GM hat.......but I haven't seen his FIVE rings up for auction or surrender just yet.........maybe he should resign from Pats and return to Cleveland to "help" the Brownies .......would certainly satisfy the naysayers who say BB would be "nothing without Brady"....oh joy................... It's almost as if people forget they won 2 of the last 3 SBs...and are in 1st place yet again.....I would love for our staff " sucked " like him....
aceman_16 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Pats defense may be bad but they're still 5-2. If recall correctly, the Pats defense wasnt all that great the year [they beat] the Seahawks BEAT THEMSELVES in the superbowl Fixed it for ya! Edited October 27, 2017 by aceman_16
Thurman#1 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) I called this from the beginning and it's looking more and more like the GENIUS screwed up another big trade, possibly as awful as the Seymour trade was. (or beautiful if you're a Bills fan) The Pats traded away Chandler Jones and got a guard (Cooper) and a 2nd round pick from Zona. They traded that pick down into a pair of picks where they selected guard Joe Thuney and WR Malcolm Mitchell. Cooper turned out to be a bust, and Malcolm Mitchell contributed a little last year but can't stay healthy and never even saw the field this year. Thuney is a decent guard by most accounts, ranked average by PFF but that's essentially all they got from the trade. Meanwhile Chandler is ripping it up again this year. 8 sacks already this season and one of the elites at his position. The Patriots defense is awful, and just got worse with Hightower out for the season. To make matters worse, the GENIUS guaranteed $40M to dopey Gilmore, whose cap hit is similar to what the Cards are paying for Jones in his new deal. (Gilmore cap hit $9M this year, then $12M and $14M in year three. And his dead money will be heavy if they dump him. Jones is around $10M cap hit annually) Even without my Patriots Hating Bias, Belichick may be a good coach--as evidenced by his awesome #32 ranked defense this year, and the offensive mastery he showed last year at home without Brady scoring that whopping ZERO points against our mediocre defense), but he sure sucks as a GM. Hey.... at least he has a pleasant, engaging personality and sense of humor....... Know what happens to GMs who suck? They lose a lot games. An awful lot. Belichick is a damn good GM. Unfortunately. Having said that, he makes mistakes like anyone else, and so far that trade you mention appears to be one, but it's hard to say that when the year they made it they won the Lombardi. And their defense was coming together the past couple of weeks. Awful early on, they've improved, which is the M.O. of the Pats when they start awful. Unfortunately. Also worth noting that Pats defenses are generally bend but don't break models, which means they don't end up high in yards-based rankings. It'll be interesting to see how they manage after this injury. It does appear to be a big problem for them. Noone is claiming that the Patriots have better Bills players than the Bills do anymore that's for sure. Um. Its glorious isnt it? Bills being called a farm team all the while Gilmore and Gillislee struggle. Hunh? They've been very happy with Gillislee. We'll see about Gimore when he gets back. Edited October 27, 2017 by Thurman#1
Paulus Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Not really sure how you-me-we can be accusing Bellichick of "bad GM-ing" when he is coming off a Super Bowl victory and is tied for the best record in football now even with a bunch of injuries. And yes, I know who his quarterback is. And I truly hate the guy. I think this is the most sensible comment ITT.
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