section122 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) http://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/40012/joe-flaccos-fall-from-super-bowl-mvp-to-31st-ranked-passer-hits-national-stageInteresting article ahead of tonight's game. I have been saying for a while now that Tyrod is better than Flacco. He has been pretty bad the last few years and it has gone on for long enough to not be a coincidence.From the article:From the start of the 2013 season to the end of last season, Flacco had thrown the second-most interceptions in the NFL (trailing only Eli Manning) and ranked 36th in passer rating. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco ranks 26th or worse in six of seven major passing categories: CATEGORY NO. RANKING Passing yards 1,189 28th Comp pct. 63.8 14th Yards per attempt 5.3 32nd TDs 5 26th INTs 8 28th Rating 70.0 31st Total QBR 30.0 30th I think the Ravens would have been better served going with Tyrod although I know why they didn't. It would have been impossible to move on from him right after a super bowl. However I think he is paying the price for his salary which weakened the team around him. Time to remove him from the "franchise qb" list and move him over to Brad Johnson territory? Edited October 26, 2017 by section122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Sounds like he mentally isn’t into the game. As much as I hate the Cheats and Brady I do admire him for his drive and mental toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Sounds like he mentally isn’t into the game. As much as I hate the Cheats and Brady I do admire him for his drive and mental toughness. ....and the duration of his drive and toughness is remarkable......AND still driving.......not bad for a 6th.....sure as hell is not the money.................... Edited October 26, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) If Brady was really smart he would have retired long ago to save his brain from repetitive brain injury. His spouse makes more than he does and he could focus on his health promotional business. So like you said he does not need the money from NFL. Edited October 26, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 If Brady was really smart he would have retired long ago to save his brain from repetitive brain injury. His spouse makes more than he does and he could focus on his health promotional business. So like you said he does not need the money from NFL. Yeah but that is the point; he's a very competitive, driven guy. I don't think people realize how competitive he is. Tons of great players in all sports are like that. Sometimes the most talented work the hardest too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Sounds like he mentally isn’t into the game. As much as I hate the Cheats and Brady I do admire him for his drive and mental toughness. ...so would you say that Flacco's post SB guaranteed contract restructure of 52 mil guaranteed caused him to "slap in into neutral and coast" or is it a combination of failures between Ozzie and Harbaugh relative to supporting cast and/or coaching?...just curious on your assessment...thanks........... Edited October 26, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I remember reading that Ralph wanted to go after Flacco big time when there was a chance he would be a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 @nflresearch Joe Flacco could become the 1st QB since OAK JaMarcus Russell (2009) to start his teams 1st 8 games & have fewer than 250 pass yds in all 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 You can add Baltimore to the list of teams that are likely to consider drafting a qb with a high pick. What's surprising about Baltimore's drop to the bottom is that they have one of the best GMs in the game in Ozzie Newsome. The Ravens have been consistently good for a long time. What's clear is that when you don't have good qbing your team is going to struggle. I'm not placing all the blame on the qb situation because they also have other major issues on offense. But it is clearly a major factor in the team's decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Here is the thing I've been saying all along. Flacco has never been a great QB in the regular season. He is typically average to below average. He will never get a team to the playoffs by himself. However, when he got to the playoffs he turned into Superman for about 4 or 5 years. Thats what earned him the contract, not his regular season play which has been middling. People who think he was some elite QB are just so far off base its laughable. He never was anything close to an elite QB other than in the playoffs those few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 My take is that Joe Flacco has regressed in recent years. He was never elite but he was a franchise Quarterback. What made him a franchise Quarterback was never his numbers... it was his play in the biggest moments. In the years between his rookie year and his Superbowl year he had a brilliant ability to play his best when the game was on the line. A lot of fans noticed it in the playoffs... and there is certainly an argument that is where he played his best football.... but he made clutch plays in the regular season as well. That was just who he was. He has taken a beating in recent yeara behind Juan Castillo's putrid offensive lines and it does seem to have affected him mentally. I'm not sure whether he is quite as unflappable as he once was or whether he still has that drive to climb back to the top of the mountain. As for whether his contract has hamstrung the Ravens? Not really is my answer. What has hurt their competitiveness. The thing that has hurt their competitiveness is the same thing that hurts almost any team in the NFL.... they have drafted poorly. Here is a list of their 1st and 2nd round draft picks since the Joe Flacco / Ray Rice year: Michael Oher Paul Kruger Sergio Kindle Terrance Cody Jimmy Smith Torrey Smith Courtney Upshaw Kelechi Osemele Matt Elam Arthur Brown CJ Mosely Timmy Jernigan Breshad Perriman Maxx Williams Ronnie Stanley Kamalei Correa Marlon Humphrey Tyus Bowser Not many successes among that list are there? And they let Osemele who was one of them walk! The Ravens won the Superbowl with a veteran roster and a lot of old guys. Their rebuild has not been well executed, and I say that as a big Ossie Newsome fan over the years. When you look at their secondary last night what you notice is a lot of expensive FAs. The Ravens had always tried to stay away from big FA signings in their model... it has become a necessity because they drafted poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Poor Joe. The Legend of Kiko still lives on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Poor Joe. The Legend of Kiko still lives on. he laid it on him for sure. nearly ripped his ear off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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