row_33 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The media will just stop talking about it soon, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 4) I was specifically talking to Tibs... but again, where we differ is in the belief that the ultimate power in this country rests in the Oval. I don't believe that for a moment. The ultimate power in this country still resides in the MiC, USIC and the deep state/shadow government - all of whom are currently openly at war with one another. Which gives us, the people, an opportunity if we're smart to take advantage of that infighting to learn the truth and reclaim our country. Well then you've got another thing coming. Subverting the other branches of government was Obama's thing. This is an executive branch thing entirely. Trump can fire/investigate anybody in his branch, and all power will emanate from the Oval. Many heads will roll. Everybody will be investigated, if not canned outright. In fact the entire senior management of National Security/Law Enforcement/DOD should have lawyered up yesterday. Why? They just tried to pull a McCarthy on Trump and failed. Dumb move. Trump is bigger on revenge than Mossad, and he WILL get all of them, again, from the Oval. These people have spent their entire lives as rats; they don't know anything else. Thus, they will snitch on each other. Jeff Sessions won't save them, not after they tried to smear him and get him fired. He will clean house, and open investigations into the DNC, Clinton Campaign, and many individual Ds and Rs. Hell, it's 50/50 on Mueller being fired before the end of next week. The WSJ told him to resign. The WSJ isn't some far-left loon website that demands Trump's resignation every week. The WSJ knows a lot more about this. They said today this is merely the beginning of the bombs, and they're giving Mueller fair warning to get out. Perhaps they see Mueller as a victim of circumstance. They aren't warning the guilty. Like I said: patience, and, Trump == Mossad. He will get them all. The things you worry about will change, because the people in charge will be changed. They're already gone. The thing to watch now is Trump's corrections/process changes after his revenge is complete. The last thing we need is merely promoting today's JV to varsity, and expecting things to be different. But that's a way's off. Trump's revenge will last right through the 2018 elections. it is their job to know the difference. Even if Brennan and Clapper didn't know the evidence was altered(your entire argument depends on them absolutely knowing) , the DNI/ICA was written and published deliberately to undercut Trump's ability to set his own foreign policy agenda. By a hand-picked, small group of people from four(4) agencies, and was not derived from full consensus of 17 agencies, as the Dems and idiot media reported at the time. Yet another "consensus" argument down in flames. ...or the Dems win the House or Senate in the midterms and figure out a way to impeach him if Mueller or his successor keep the investigation alive that long. Two big "ifs" but it could go that way, too. Rosenstein screwed Trump because he didn't put a senset on the investigation -- or at least require Mueller to petition for more time if he showed good cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Impeachment without conviction by the Senate is worthless, read the rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) KIMBERLEY STRASSEL: The Coming Russia Bombshells: A judge may order Fusion GPS to give House investigators its bank records. The confirmation this week that Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee paid an opposition-research firm for a “dossier” on Donald Trump is bombshell news. More bombshells are to come. The Fusion GPS saga isn’t over. The Clinton-DNC funding is but a first glimpse into the shady election doings concealed within that oppo-research firm’s walls. We now know where Fusion got some of its cash, but the next question is how the firm used it. With whom did it work beyond former British spy Christopher Steele ? Whom did it pay? Who else was paying it? Ironically, this story may cause some media outlets to wake up to the fact that Steele wasn't hired until after the Dems were funding. Edited October 28, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Impeachment without conviction by the Senate is worthless, read the rules... Oh don't worry, I'm sure the left will close their eyes and wish really hard for a bunch of GOP senators to vote to convict, like they did with their idiotic fantasy that 35+ GOP electors would vote for Hillary instead of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 It's going to go away. The mainstream media won't take it seriously, so neither will the American public. Happens with plenty of stories, even those inconveniently broken by the Post or NYT. And particularly this one, which isn't telling anyone anything we don't already know: Hillary Clinton is a lying, manipulative, greedy charlatan and hustler. As I said above, the MSM won't have a choice: when Mueller is fired/resigns. Or, when Trump tells Sessions to indict(R donor/John McCain/insert some other R here) for beginning the bogus dossier. Or DWS/DNC for paying for it. Or, hell, why not indict the entire DNC, Clinton Campaign, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Comey and Susan Powers on RICO for the dossier-->FISA-->unmasking? Think the media ignores that? There is a strong case for RICO law being applied here. Specifically because the Ambassador to the UN(Powers) asked for 1000s of US citizens to be unmasked. She didn't come up with that idea all by herself. They got her to do it, and tried to hide it that way, since they thought nobody would check on her, because it's so obtuse for her to be doing ANY unmasking. That's prima facia conspiracy, and racketeering to violate about 10 Federal laws, hence, RICO. That's the simplest explanation. Actually, nothing else even comes close to making more sense. All of this will leak, except this time Trump will be doing the leaking. The media can't ignore it. If anything, they will have to cover it or risk being left behind/looking like they don't know what's happening. They will be dragged into this. Just like they were dragged into Lewinsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (your entire argument depends on them absolutely knowing) , the DNI/ICA was written and published deliberately to undercut Trump's ability to set his own foreign policy agenda. By a hand-picked, small group of people from four(4) agencies, and was not derived from full consensus of 17 agencies, as the Dems and idiot media reported at the time. Yet another "consensus" argument down in flames. I'm of the opinion they absolutely knew, considering the tool used to alter the metadata was right out of CIA's cyber playbook. Brennan and Clapper have been traitors to this country for over a decade. Both of their agencies had been working, nearly non-stop, for the past 4 years prior to the election to inflame proxy wars into a head on conflict. This was done in the Ukraine and Syria before Trump's platform caught on and Hillary's (who represented their foreign policy platform) cratered. The ICA offers only one piece of evidence that isn't couched in skepticism, unnamed sources or methods. And that piece of evidence, as verified by now dozens of independent investigators, has been shown to have been tampered with using tools whose origins trace back to Langley's cyber warfare toolkit. If independent investigators figured this out in a matter of weeks, do you honestly believe the NSA, CIA and FBI couldn't - especially, as you pointed out, when it's a "crack team" of hand picked officers? Brennan and Clapper were both part of the WMD debacle, and both had a hand in rewriting the USIC's playbook on joint investigations. They knowingly broke those very protocols when they assembled an insulated "team". Why would they knowingly break their own rules unless they were trying to rig the game. Even if they didn't know, my hypothesis for what's actually happening (an attempted coup) still very much holds up. This is just the best piece of evidence we've been given that lets us in on the game. People, largely, have ignored it because our own USIC has been waging an 11 month information war on the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Now they want to end the electoral college, so they should try to learn about the process of amending the Constitution, best of luck getting 38 states to end this system!!! Or maybe a Constitutional Convention could occur, that would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 They really DO need to lock her up. Should they lock up the conservatives who initially paid for the dossier too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Baskin, are you going to defend Hillary for the rest of your life? She isnt remotely worth it. Typing dumb things to defend her is a total waste of the brain you have been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Should they lock up the conservatives who initially paid for the dossier too? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) The Clintons started the so-called Russian collusion scandal and may be destroyed by itby Newt Gingrinch Original Article The Left has been desperately working for months to find any shred of evidence that Donald Trump had even the slightest connection to Russia during the presidential campaign. Despite having the full support of their friends in the media, they have consistently failed to find anything substantive. At first, I assumed the liberal elites were simply driven by their inability to accept that the American people elected Donald Trump as their 45th president. Now, I have another theory: . Edited October 28, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Should they lock up the conservatives who initially paid for the dossier too? Says here in this article that the conservatives initially retained fusion GPS but then dropped the relationship. THEN the democratic committee and Clinton campaign retained fusion GPS, which resulted in the dossier being prepared. The initial work done for conservatives wasn't connected to the dossier. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Baskin, are you going to defend Hillary for the rest of your life? She isnt remotely worth it. Typing dumb things to defend her is a total waste of the brain you have been given. In Baskin's defense, he won't defend HRC for the rest of his life. He will only defend her until early/mid 2019 when the People's Party has anointed their next agent of Change® and Resistance© Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I would LOL but Im perfectly convinced Hillary is the Dems nomination in 2020 unless she croaks first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) James Comey’s ‘coordination’ testimony sheds new context on Clinton campaign’s dossier fundingby Rowan Scarborough Original Article A Definitive Timeline Showing When Clinton, DNC Started The Russian Dossier. Edited October 29, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 LOL....................Look what one of the the dems favorite GOP senators has said. Funny...............they always hold her up as someone who should be listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 All the right wing media is involved in this effort to distract from the alleged crimes of the President. They are going wild spewing lies about a stupid uranium deal that Clinton has almost nothing at all to do with and is no crime and contains no corruption. Yet on Fox, in their web sites, on talk radio, the politicians and paid internet posters are all right on script. The main point: Clinton conspired with Russia to get herself beat? No wonder the regular media is so hated. They have a giant industry (conspiracy) designed to discredit, smear and lie about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Original and compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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