CanadianFan Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 After reigning the NFL as the top scoring defense for a few weeks, Bills defense has come back to reality. We are now the 4th ranked scoring defense in the league. Mighty seahawks are leading that title once again. We have one of the better run defenses, ranking 7th in the league at 84.5 yards given up per game. We were all worried about this secondary before the season began. Its early bright start had us thinking they are way better than we thought. Look again: Bills secondary is 26th in the league at 258.7 yards given up per game. Only 5 teams are worse. And we have yet to face Brady. (Giants are one spot below us, but have the same yardage given up at 258.7. I assume the tie breaker was this:) The one consolation we have is that we have 2nd most INTs in the league with 9. So yeah what we thought is still true. We will have trouble slowing down Brady.
Andrew Son Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Nice of him to at least let us get the win though...
The Jokeman Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 After reigning the NFL as the top scoring defense for a few weeks, Bills defense has come back to reality. We are now the 4th ranked scoring defense in the league. Mighty seahawks are leading that title once again. We have one of the better run defenses, ranking 7th in the league at 84.5 yards given up per game. We were all worried about this secondary before the season began. Its early bright start had us thinking they are way better than we thought. Look again: Bills secondary is 26th in the league at 258.7 yards given up per game. Only 5 teams are worse. And we have yet to face Brady. (Giants are one spot below us, but have the same yardage given up at 258.7. I assume the tie breaker was this:) The one consolation we have is that we have 2nd most INTs in the league with 9. So yeah what we thought is still true. We will have trouble slowing down Brady. and by contrast we have one of the best defenses against the run and allowing points. Also creating turnovers as you mention is also a point of strength. Yet let's also not forget that Gaines has been in and out of the lineup at various times this season and it seems we're better with him in there than without. Stopping New England won't be easy and even if we don't we're also competing with the Dolphins and a few other teams for a Wild Card spot too.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Just think of what the great Ryan Fitzpatrick would have done.
GunnerBill Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 After reigning the NFL as the top scoring defense for a few weeks, Bills defense has come back to reality. We are now the 4th ranked scoring defense in the league. Mighty seahawks are leading that title once again. We have one of the better run defenses, ranking 7th in the league at 84.5 yards given up per game. We were all worried about this secondary before the season began. Its early bright start had us thinking they are way better than we thought. Look again: Bills secondary is 26th in the league at 258.7 yards given up per game. Only 5 teams are worse. And we have yet to face Brady. (Giants are one spot below us, but have the same yardage given up at 258.7. I assume the tie breaker was this:) The one consolation we have is that we have 2nd most INTs in the league with 9. So yeah what we thought is still true. We will have trouble slowing down Brady. It is not the Bills secondary that is struggling. They got killed by a tight end this week. The linebackers, Milano apart, cannot cover.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 It is not the Bills secondary that is struggling. They got killed by a tight end this week. The linebackers, Milano apart, cannot cover. Zo was horrid in coverage against TB. Brown also struggled to a degree.
boyst Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Alexander has always been fecal matter in coverage. Brown has been our best and below average for the league for some time. Milano is learning so I'll be nice. We need to find a way to play nickel more without Alexander on 3rd down because he is struggling.
BigBuff423 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) I don't know that I agree with the OP sentiments. For one, Gaines has been in and out with injuries and the turnovers have been consistent through the first 6 games, which is an important part of Defense so to dismiss it or slight it by saying it's a "consolation" to me is misleading. Second, Offenses are seeing they can't run very well on this Defense so they are passing more, which unless it's a total shutdown will lead to more yards. The OJ Howard TD was a TOTAL miff on the Defense and they admitted as much. Evans made a fantastic catch after a really high quality throw by Jameis, and yes the D should shut that down, but we can't expect perfection. That said, not fielding more than 4 corners in a game is a concern, and hopefully McD sees this and dresses 5....and, the Defense does need to stand up again against the pass, but saying they're not good or "as bad as we thought they were", really isn't accurate either. I think given the game plan, which I believe in the last few weeks has been to bend and not break, to try and avoid the big play, ala AJ Green and OJ Howard, they seem to content to give up the yards in the middle of the field to keep the points off the board. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think when we get to December the numbers will start to make more sense and even out a bit...meaning, TOs may come down a little, sacks go up, Run D stays strong, and passing yards per game comes down a ways also....it wasn't until Atlanta that the D gave up a passing TD....so let's not call them out just yet. Edited October 24, 2017 by BigBuff423
Royale with Cheese Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Alexander has always been fecal matter in coverage. Brown has been our best and below average for the league for some time. Milano is learning so I'll be nice. We need to find a way to play nickel more without Alexander on 3rd down because he is struggling. Put Alexander at defensive end on 3rd down.
K-9 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 After reigning the NFL as the top scoring defense for a few weeks, Bills defense has come back to reality. We are now the 4th ranked scoring defense in the league. Mighty seahawks are leading that title once again. We have one of the better run defenses, ranking 7th in the league at 84.5 yards given up per game. We were all worried about this secondary before the season began. Its early bright start had us thinking they are way better than we thought. Look again: Bills secondary is 26th in the league at 258.7 yards given up per game. Only 5 teams are worse. And we have yet to face Brady. (Giants are one spot below us, but have the same yardage given up at 258.7. I assume the tie breaker was this:) The one consolation we have is that we have 2nd most INTs in the league with 9. So yeah what we thought is still true. We will have trouble slowing down Brady. I believe that tiebreaker is alphabetical order.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Well, he did throw for throw for all those yards. That should count for something. How many points should we give the Bucs for that?
GunnerBill Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Alexander has always been fecal matter in coverage. Brown has been our best and below average for the league for some time. Milano is learning so I'll be nice. We need to find a way to play nickel more without Alexander on 3rd down because he is struggling. Which would be fine if we had any corners beyond White and the oft injured Gaines. Leonard Johnson isn't great either.
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Nice of him to at least let us get the win though... LOL. This^. He dominated us so much, they lost. Zo was horrid in coverage against TB. Brown also struggled to a degree. Are we allowed to wish for a Gronk injury? Nothing bad, just a nagging injury that makes him miss our games.
row_33 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 it wasn't a good game, something WC wannabees display. nice to win one of those for a change, but.......
Gavin in Va Beach Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Those couple of big plays aside, what really humbled our D was the quick slant. Winston was hitting those at will. I think our guys forgot how to defend against the slant. Hopefully they are doing some refresher training on it this week.
boyst Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Put Alexander at defensive end on 3rd down. had not occured to me. Good call anything to get Lawson off the field on 3rd down
GunnerBill Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 had not occured to me. Good call anything to get Lawson off the field on 3rd down They have done that some. They have also pushed Lawson inside on some 3rd and longs with Zo at DE.
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 As Belichek always point out, people obsess about yards, you dont lose a game based on yards, you lose it based on points. Wit the Bills zone were are going to give up chunks of yards to good QBs that have a quick release and are accurate short to intermediate range. Brady could put up 500 against us. Key is our defense tightens up in the red zone as the field compresses and we are constantly going for turnover, the Bucs had 6 fumbles, 6 last weekend. Most of those were forced by our defense. So yes we have and we wil continue to give up chunks of yards, but to win we have to keep forcing turnovers and hold teams to FGs instead of TDs.
Doc Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 What killed them was when Howard would just scoot across the other side of the OL, get lost, and then emerge completely uncovered. Hopefully they get that figured-out. But man I would love to have Tampa's receiving options. They should be putting up beaucoup points like that every weekend.
Foxx Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) It is not the Bills secondary that is struggling. They got killed by a tight end this week. The linebackers, Milano apart, cannot cover. Zo was horrid in coverage against TB. Brown also struggled to a degree. anyone know when Humber will be back? Edited October 24, 2017 by Foxx
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