Mikie2times Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 In a parity driven league, falling more victim to that description by the day, you either have an elite QB or your nothing. In that, even teams with the so called elite signal callers have fallen to the wayside. Who are the the tier 1 contenders in the AFC with an elite QB? NE, KC, PIT? You could argue KC and PIT may or may not fit that description. Most elite QB's have had father time run it's course. While these QB's can still show signs of former greatness the pure dominance that elevated them and the teams they played for isn't the same as it once was. In all this parity teams are trying to follow the win with QB blue print, they do so at the expense of development which often shows up in the form of losing. Specifically, losing through turnovers. Not I say the Buffalo Bills. What makes us special? We never turn the ball over. Repeat like Billy Bean in Moneyball. We never turn the ball over. We know who Tyrod is and isn't. Not a pocket passer, chunk plays buying time, great runner, good deep ball, sacks, poor vision.... etc. He doesn't turn the ball over and he moves the chains enough in combination without turning it over to win games. Now, for the first time, we compliment that style with a defense that generates turnovers in chunks. This team is +10 in turnover margin and while that tends to be one of the least consistent stats around, we do it in such a way that makes it nearly certain it will continue. As stated, Taylor will not suddenly start turning it over. He's been playing turnover free ball since arriving in Buffalo. Now he has a defense that pressures the QB, forces dink and dunk long drives, and poor decisions.... Yes, the drought will end this year. I don't say that as hopeful, fandom, chain reaction, etc. We currently lead the league in turnovers and I expect us to finish the year in the top 3 in that area. You finish top 3 and you make the playoffs. I never would have thought it would be this year, this team. We can beat anybody and we can lose to anybody. In the end it will be a Wild Card.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Im good with Tyrod for now IF hes going to run. The way he played Sunday, is how he needs to play. Forget trying to make him a drop back passer. Let him do what he does. If Tyrod is going to use his legs, Im good. If hes going to try and stay in the pocket and drop back...Im not
judman Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Im good with Tyrod for now IF hes going to run. The way he played Sunday, is how he needs to play. Forget trying to make him a drop back passer. Let him do what he does. If Tyrod is going to use his legs, Im good. If hes going to try and stay in the pocket and drop back...Im not Sounds like he gets that based on his post game presser Edited October 24, 2017 by judman
moshermw Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Im good with Tyrod for now IF hes going to run. The way he played Sunday, is how he needs to play. Forget trying to make him a drop back passer. Let him do what he does. If Tyrod is going to use his legs, Im good. If hes going to try and stay in the pocket and drop back...Im not Always been that way - I tend to like to think of it more as rolling him out more/run pass options - by design. When TT is moving, he's actually very accurate. There's as many play he scorches Defenses with his legs for 20+ yd scampers as there is when he moves out of the pocket, improvises and continues to look down field. His arm is as dangerous as his legs when things go "street" ball. Now we have a speed guy out there with DT and Jordan Matthews back there are more weapons he can hurt a team with than he had in the Cincy debacle. Things are bright(er) for TT after just one week.
billsfan60 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 The Tyrod we saw Sunday is a QB that can win us games and just maybe play a big part in ending The Drought. The question is did we see an aberration or an evolution?
Seasons1992 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 The Tyrod we saw Sunday is a QB that can win us games and just maybe play a big part in ending The Drought. The question is did we see an aberration or an evolution? Playing another good through-the-air team like the Raiders could result in more evolution.....roll-outs, the need to have a passing game to come back, etc...
TPS Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 On the other hand, and to bring up an old debate, "this style of winning is not sustainable." I see one game left on the schedule that should be a given win--Indy. Every other game will be tight, even the Jets. If the breaks don't go the Bills way, they can easily lose more than they win the rest of the way. While I'm optimistic about the way this team plays and is coached, it's still too soon to say they will break the drought.
billsfan60 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 On the other hand, and to bring up an old debate, "this style of winning is not sustainable." I see one game left on the schedule that should be a given win--Indy. Every other game will be tight, even the Jets. If the breaks don't go the Bills way, they can easily lose more than they win the rest of the way. While I'm optimistic about the way this team plays and is coached, it's still too soon to say they will break the drought. This has been my feeling all season so far... until last Sunday. This team will blow out nobody, but have shown the ability to play with anybody. The breaks, both good and bad, are going to happen and this coaching staff has demonstrated the ability to adjust on the fly. Beginning to trust they have an answer for most things. The Bucs no huddle puts up 27 and our passing game comes to life and puts up 30. This is what good teams do, pick up the slack when one phase of the games is lacking. This style is not just sustainable, it's preferable. My question is; is that what we just saw, or a combination of good luck and a bad Bucs defense? Hope for the former, prepared (emotionally) for the latter.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Even if the Bills draft a QB in the next draft they aren't going to be rushed in to start. So get set for Taylor for at least another season.
Game Manager Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Even if the Bills draft a QB in the next draft they aren't going to be rushed in to start. So get set for Taylor for at least another season. Pump the breaks chief. We were 4-2 last year as well then Taylor turned into guano.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Pump the breaks chief. We were 4-2 last year as well then Taylor turned into guano.Yeah. The Bills were 7th in scoring in week 16 before Taylor was sat down. What a crap show! Maybe you forgot about that incredible Rex & Rob Ryan defense last year. I think they called it "bend but don't split your pants." Edited October 24, 2017 by PromoTheRobot
GunnerBill Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Even if the Bills draft a QB in the next draft they aren't going to be rushed in to start. So get set for Taylor for at least another season. And that is the right approach. What I will criticise however is if they suddenly rush to extend Tyrod again after the season based on this level of play. They should be drafting a Quarterback with the idea that at some point 2018 he becomes the starter and Tyrod moves on at the end of the 2018 season. Leave themselves flexibility to adjust that plan - sure. But don't get themselves back into the long term commitment to Tyrod position they ended up in this offseason. That would be a mistake. Edited October 24, 2017 by GunnerBill
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 He will stay until the offseason and only come back if he redoes his contract yet again.
eball Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Pump the breaks chief. We were 4-2 last year as well then Taylor turned into guano. The difference between last year's 4-2 -- against some of the worst teams in the league -- and this year's record is night and day. I'm not saying this year's team is bound for glory, but last year's early record was a smokescreen.
JM2009 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Pump the breaks chief. We were 4-2 last year as well then Taylor turned into guano. The defense was the main problem last season.
Foxx Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) my question is... what happened to the WCO? answer: Tyrod. someone kick that record player above me. it is broke again... Edited October 24, 2017 by Foxx
Game Manager Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 The defense was the main problem last season. how many more times will you need to say this to reach a million ?
MAJBobby Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 my question is... what happened to the WCO? answer: Tyrod. someone kick that record player above me. it is broke again... The QB could not run it so therefore the OC had to implement a specific type of offense the QB can execute for this year
mrags Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 And that is the right approach. What I will criticise however is if they suddenly rush to extend Tyrod again after the season based on this level of play. They should be drafting a Quarterback with the idea that at some point 2018 he becomes the starter and Tyrod moves on at the end of the 2018 season. Leave themselves flexibility to adjust that plan - sure. But don't get themselves back into the long term commitment to Tyrod position they ended up in this offseason. That would be a mistake. id imagine they would and could franchise tag Tyrod for one more season and he would take the opportunity to showcase himself. Much like Alex Smith this season
PromoTheRobot Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 We have a lot of potential NFL GM candidates on this forum who think Taylor is going to just take another pay cut for the privilege of starting for the Bills next year. You should watch some of the other current NFL starters.
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