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oh wooooahhhhh, 8-5....that is like, national championship contention right???

 

Gave them a "scare"?? wowwww, that IS impressive

 

You have your fan sights set mighty high friend!!!

 

(I know sarcasm is hard to read, so just know, all of that was heavy sarcasm)

 

 

Now end sarcasm....Why should an alum support this? I am proud of UB, an affordable institution that is making its way as a medical leader in western new york (serving and training), educates many undergrads and post grads alike, encourages those graduates to remain in the community to work and live. I donate annually to my alma mater because of those things, and I believe that by NOT supporting their terrible football program that literally never has a chance to succeed (because of how college football is organized) they may eventually fold the program and focus their energies on other academic and athletic endeavors.

 

But, thank you for your judgement.

 

(I am done with this line of discussion in this thread)

My last word: this is the attitude that holds back UB athletics. A school that is the flagship state university in a state the size of New York, a member of the prestigious American Association of Universities, a leading research institution, right up there with some of the most famous institutions in the country. But they have a near-community college-level athletic program. Paat, your take isn't surprising. It reflects a general attitude in WNY that we aren't good enough. Edited by PromoTheRobot
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My last word: this is the attitude that holds back UB athletics. A school that is the flagship state university in a state the size of New York, a member of the prestigious American Association of Universities, a leading research institution, right up there with some of the most famous institutions in the country. But they have a near-community college-level athletic program. Paat, your take isn't surprising. It reflects a general attitude in WNY that we aren't good enough.

 

I cant stop - and by the way this is much more constructive dialogue that the first exchange - but how do you propose we can ever compete legitimately for a national championship? We do not have anywhere near the level of talent in our home areas that other college football teams have...and if they are good, they are choosing other colleges in the "area" (Penn St. Pitt, Syracuse, any ohio schools) because they have established programs. We, being a state university (one of many), do not have anywhere near the resources of big time, established programs to lure recruits. We do not have good weather or good fan support. We dont even have a cool name or mascot!! How would an alum make a difference on any of that? What could me cheering for them actually do?

 

I know I am negative regarding our football program....but I think, rightfully so. The way college football is constructed, new programs - and yes UB is a "new" program - have NO WAY at getting to a competitive level. And no, competing for a MAC championship (which we have legit done like twice) is NOT being at a competitive level. I would prefer to just do away with the embarrassment and focus on things that our school does well.

 

Thanks for the constructive dialogue.

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Has anyone ever told you that you look like a penis with that hat on?

 

We should be in all red. As ugly as that is, its still better than the throwback whites.

If the red resembled Bills Red I might not mind it as much.

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I posted this same thing several pages ago, and that view still holds. Wet field = advantage offense....now luckily, we run a lot of zone (although lots of man last week) so it makes it a LITTLE easier getting to WRs out of breaks, but it's still no bueno

 

Hopefully it plays to our offenses advantage as well, with our shifty guys (Shady and TT)

 

why is it sad that WNY'ers didn't want to waste their time and money supporting an absolutely putrid college "football" team (even while they had Mack)? I am an alum and wouldn't go to those games. There are many of us who wish UB would do away with the football team altogether.

Because of the track, the fans are way too far away from the action.

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nah way brah, christmas colors boiiiiiii

 

Not when the NFL got flack from all the colorblind people, including head of sports at AP

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oh wooooahhhhh, 8-5....that is like, national championship contention right???

 

Gave them a "scare"?? wowwww, that IS impressive

 

You have your fan sights set mighty high friend!!!

 

(I know sarcasm is hard to read, so just know, all of that was heavy sarcasm)

 

 

Now end sarcasm....Why should an alum support this? I am proud of UB, an affordable institution that is making its way as a medical leader in western new york (serving and training), educates many undergrads and post grads alike, encourages those graduates to remain in the community to work and live. I donate annually to my alma mater because of those things, and I believe that by NOT supporting their terrible football program that literally never has a chance to succeed (because of how college football is organized) they may eventually fold the program and focus their energies on other academic and athletic endeavors.

 

But, thank you for your judgement.

 

(I am done with this line of discussion in this thread)

 

 

You have it all figured out don't you? Like Promo said great alum you are. Alums/students like you are the reason UB has less than half filled Stadiums in the fall & Alumni Arena is half filled in the winter even when they have competitive basketball teams.

 

& if your measuring stick is to compete for national championships, UB should do away with all athletic programs, as should 90% of the other D-1 schools in the country. Utterly stupid opinion to have.

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they just beat a team many think is the best in the AFC, and they have extra days to rest and prepare. This will be another nail biter.

They are also not at home on prime time television and are flying cross country to play a game at 10am their time in which they are 2-19 in their last 21.

 

Lets not forget all those either.

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I cant stop - and by the way this is much more constructive dialogue that the first exchange - but how do you propose we can ever compete legitimately for a national championship? We do not have anywhere near the level of talent in our home areas that other college football teams have...and if they are good, they are choosing other colleges in the "area" (Penn St. Pitt, Syracuse, any ohio schools) because they have established programs. We, being a state university (one of many), do not have anywhere near the resources of big time, established programs to lure recruits. We do not have good weather or good fan support. We dont even have a cool name or mascot!! How would an alum make a difference on any of that? What could me cheering for them actually do?

 

I know I am negative regarding our football program....but I think, rightfully so. The way college football is constructed, new programs - and yes UB is a "new" program - have NO WAY at getting to a competitive level. And no, competing for a MAC championship (which we have legit done like twice) is NOT being at a competitive level. I would prefer to just do away with the embarrassment and focus on things that our school does well.

 

Thanks for the constructive dialogue.

 

Well first off, let's take the national championship off the table as a goal. Let's start with attainable goals like winning the MAC, which UB did in 2008. Second, there's no question that football programs run on donor money, and UB just doesn't have enough deep pocket donors to build a LSU or Alabama-level program. But they aren't totally missing. Chris Koch, New Era Cap Co's CEO is an alum and largest donor. Others like the Murchie family just donated $3MM to help fund the new field house. I often wonder if Rich Uncle Terry will drop a few mil on UB if he ever builds a new stadium downtown. Why not have a competitive college team add some dates to your new building, right?

 

A lack of winning is definitely the biggest issue with UB football. In 2008 you saw a glimpse of what could be in the way of enthusiasm and support for the Bulls, but they couldn't build off that. I don't think recruiting is the problem. Look at the their roster today and there are lots of kids from Florida and other football hotbeds. Decent coaching is a big problem.

 

Ultimately UB needs to get out of the MAC and shoot for the AAC with Temple, Navy, Connecticut, etc. But Allen Greene, the UB AD, once told me that isn't happening until a big money donor steps up. Ironically, UB with it's state flagship status, size, TV market and AAU membership, has a great profile for the Big Ten. But they simply can't compete in donations or on the field at that level.

 

The one bright spark is basketball. Both the men and women have made the NCAA's recently. This year's team looks really exciting and they have a great schedule against some top shelf programs. Hope Coach Oats sticks around a while.

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Well first off, let's take the national championship off the table as a goal. Let's start with attainable goals like winning the MAC, which UB did in 2008. Second, there's no question that football programs run on donor money, and UB just doesn't have enough deep pocket donors to build a LSU or Alabama-level program. But they aren't totally missing. Chris Koch, New Era Cap Co's CEO is an alum and largest donor. Others like the Murchie family just donated $3MM to help fund the new field house. I often wonder if Rich Uncle Terry will drop a few mil on UB if he ever builds a new stadium downtown. Why not have a competitive college team add some dates to your new building, right?

 

A lack of winning is definitely the biggest issue with UB football. In 2008 you saw a glimpse of what could be in the way of enthusiasm and support for the Bulls, but they couldn't build off that. I don't think recruiting is the problem. Look at the their roster today and there are lots of kids from Florida and other football hotbeds. Decent coaching is a big problem.

 

Ultimately UB needs to get out of the MAC and shoot for the AAC with Temple, Navy, Connecticut, etc. But Allen Greene, the UB AD, once told me that isn't happening until a big money donor steps up. Ironically, UB with it's state flagship status, size, TV market and AAU membership, has a great profile for the Big Ten. But they simply can't compete in donations or on the field at that level.

 

The one bright spark is basketball. Both the men and women have made the NCAA's recently. This year's team looks really exciting and they have a great schedule against some top shelf programs. Hope Coach Oats sticks around a while.

 

 

UB has two problems. First they need to get out of the MAC. The MAC has been a one bid league for the NCAA Tournament for many years(in fact I can't remember when they had multiple bids). Two, anytime a coach has success at UB they end up leaving(Hurley, Turner Gill etc....). I am not sure how you correct that.

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LeSean McCoy said he’s just today starting to get over his fumble Sunday that almost cost the Bills the game.

 

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The Raiders offense line played their best game last week, I think that's where the game is won/lost on Sunday.

 

It's now or never big number 99. Are you paddling with these guys or just sitting on the ship?

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