RussellDopeland Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Someone on the equipment staff needs to remedy this situation. It's that damn "11" jersey number. From Norwood on, the number eleven has been a reoccurring nightmare: Norwood Rob Johnson Bledsoe Roscoe Parrish TJ Graham now Jones. The number is cursed. It's a pox on the team and the player who dons it! Edited October 24, 2017 by RussellDopeland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I just watched the game back on gamepass and took a look at the throws to Zay. From what I could see, he caught 2 of 9 targets...which doesn't look great, but... 4 passes were completely uncatchable/no where near him (bad throws by Tyrod due to pressure or whatever) 1 catch on the sideline where he was draped by a CB, could have made the catch, but it would have been a tough/great catch. There was the one miss on the throw to the endzone, where he got tripped up by the CB's feet, so I don't put that one on Zay. 1 bad drop, no excuse 2 catches: one for a first down another for 7 tough yards in the redzone. When you actually look at the plays, he didn't have 7 drops, he had 1 drop and one contested play that maybe he could have made. It wasn't as bad as 2 of 9 appears. exactly, i will grant you enlightened status. a rare honor here. Someone on the equipment staff needs to remedy this situation. It's that damn "11" jersey number. From Norwood on, the number eleven has been a reoccurring nightmare: Norwood Rob Johnson Bledsoe Roscoe Parrish TJ Graham now Jones. The number is cursed. It's a pox on the team and the player who dons it! oh god, the humanity, this must be it! good get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I just watched the game back on gamepass and took a look at the throws to Zay. From what I could see, he caught 2 of 9 targets...which doesn't look great, but... 4 passes were completely uncatchable/no where near him (bad throws by Tyrod due to pressure or whatever) 1 catch on the sideline where he was draped by a CB, could have made the catch, but it would have been a tough/great catch. There was the one miss on the throw to the endzone, where he got tripped up by the CB's feet, so I don't put that one on Zay. 1 bad drop, no excuse 2 catches: one for a first down another for 7 tough yards in the redzone. When you actually look at the plays, he didn't have 7 drops, he had 1 drop and one contested play that maybe he could have made. It wasn't as bad as 2 of 9 appears. There is more to being a good WR than catching the ball.........gotta' get off the line, run good routes and maintain body control before you get to catch a football..........and those things have been as big of a problem........or more.......than the drops. The infamous drop at the end of the Carolina game was a very difficult grab because he stumbled out of his break and ran the route woefully short. Everyone in the Bills organization knows it........but there are a few Tyrod haters on TSW and other social media that refuse the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Jones has had his drops but not all are his fault. Some throws were not on target. Some were God’s fault as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) There is more to being a good WR than catching the ball.........gotta' get off the line, run good routes and maintain body control before you get to catch a football..........and those things have been as big of a problem........or more.......than the drops. The infamous drop at the end of the Carolina game was a very difficult grab because he stumbled out of his break and ran the route woefully short. Everyone in the Bills organization knows it........but there are a few Tyrod haters on TSW and other social media that refuse the truth. I grant you your point...but he is a rookie from a small school in his 6th game. Of course he is still working/struggling on doing some of those things consistently at the pro level. I just think we need to have some patience with him. I only wanted to point out to those who may have complained about drops in this particular game that it was really just one bad drop. You still don't want that, but it wasn't as bad as 2 of 9 seems. I really think this kid will come around. And I'm a fan of Tyrod and Zay. They are Buffalo Bills. I want all of our players to succeed. It's ok to talk about where they need to improve or if they should get more or less playing time, etc., but If they're happy to be a Bill and working hard, I'm rooting for them. Edited October 24, 2017 by folz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 To be fair yesterday a lot of the balls to him were uncatchable...probably at least half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I grant you your point...but he is a rookie from a small school in his 6th game. Of course he is still working/struggling on doing some of those things consistently at the pro level. I just think we need to have some patience with him. I only wanted to point out to those who may have complained about drops in this particular game that it was really just one bad drop. You still don't want that, but it wasn't as bad as 2 of 9 seems. I really think this kid will come around. And I'm a fan of Tyrod and Zay. They are Buffalo Bills. I want all of our players to succeed. It's ok to talk about where they need to improve or if they should get more or less playing time, etc., but If they're happy to be a Bill and working hard, I'm rooting for them. I understand your point, and I'm not saying 2/9 is entirely on Zay, but 2/9 is definitely exactly what it looks like. Looking through your other post you've got 3 passes that were on Zay, and he caught 2 of them. 2 incidental contact of some kind, and 4 uncatchable. Tyrod was 18/24 to everyone else. So following your observations, why is it that half of Tyrod's misses were to Zay, on a significantly smaller sample mind you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) I understand your point, and I'm not saying 2/9 is entirely on Zay, but 2/9 is definitely exactly what it looks like. Looking through your other post you've got 3 passes that were on Zay, and he caught 2 of them. 2 incidental contact of some kind, and 4 uncatchable. Tyrod was 18/24 to everyone else. So following your observations, why is it that half of Tyrod's misses were to Zay, on a significantly smaller sample mind you? So is 3 -16 when trailing by 4 or more points. Edited October 24, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 So is 3 -16 when trailing by 4 or more points. Apples and oranges, but that's okay. I'll guess by the emoji's that you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 you guessed right. What "Looks Bad", may not always be that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 you guessed right. What "Looks Bad", may not always be that bad. It is curious though, right? That half of his 'bad throws' were to a single receiver on 1/4 of his overall passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 It is curious though, right? That half of his 'bad throws' were to a single receiver on 1/4 of his overall passes? I'm not saying Zay is not at fault on some of them. Look at the Zay thread where I posted pictures of him having to dive for a pass to catch it. He was unable to catch a number of uncatchable balls. How many did he catch but ended up OOB because of where the ball was placed? I'd say 2 maybe 3 and one of them was in the EZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'm not saying Zay is not at fault on some of them. Look at the Zay thread where I posted pictures of him having to dive for a pass to catch it. He was unable to catch a number of uncatchable balls. How many did he catch but ended up OOB because of where the ball was placed? I'd say 2 maybe 3 and one of them was in the EZ. But were they uncatchable because of the throw, or because he wasn't where he was supposed to be? Clearly the one deep shot was due to feet getting tangled (not really on either player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 But were they uncatchable because of the throw, or because he wasn't where he was supposed to be? Clearly the one deep shot was due to feet getting tangled (not really on either player). Yet, that counts against him and is part of the 7 missed catches. Should have been a PI on Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 There is more to being a good WR than catching the ball.........gotta' get off the line, run good routes and maintain body control before you get to catch a football..........and those things have been as big of a problem........or more.......than the drops. The infamous drop at the end of the Carolina game was a very difficult grab because he stumbled out of his break and ran the route woefully short. Everyone in the Bills organization knows it........but there are a few Tyrod haters on TSW and other social media that refuse the truth. 6 games, 7 catches, lost one game, contributed to second loss, made zero big plays, street FA outshines him after 5 days of practice. "No receiver is more pro ready than Zay Jones" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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