Virgil Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 Glenn for Graham straight up. Both have cap hits, but not being utilized. Both make immediate impacts for each team. Would you?
K D Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 They want to trade Glenn to get younger and less expensive contracts. It's not about getting another equal player in return. They are looking for a draft pick and a young player on a rookie deal most likely
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 Interesting idea. Graham has been so inconsistent in Seattle tho. I don't think I do that deal, unless it's fantasy football as Glenn hasn't had much of a fantasy impact.
SaviorPeterman Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 I've been an advocate of trading Glenn for the right situation but I wouldn't make this move, at least as is. Mostly because Graham is nearly 3 years older than Glenn and TE isn't a glaring need right now even with Clay out for a while. Now if Seattle threw in another player and/or mid round draft pick it might be more appealing.
billsfan89 Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 Pass, I would much rather have Glenn if all things are equal. Tackle is such an important position along the O-line and Graham while not washed up is expensive and his best days are likely behind him.
Virgil Posted October 20, 2017 Author Posted October 20, 2017 They want to trade Glenn to get younger and less expensive contracts. It's not about getting another equal player in return. They are looking for a draft pick and a young player on a rookie deal most likely I agree. But I think Graham has less years left on his deal. With the cap hit for Glenn and Dareus, I think a contract swap may come into play.
PolishDave Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 I agree. But I think Graham has less years left on his deal. With the cap hit for Glenn and Dareus, I think a contract swap may come into play. What is this contract swap you speak of?
SoTier Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 They want to trade Glenn to get younger and less expensive contracts. It's not about getting another equal player in return. They are looking for a draft pick and a young player on a rookie deal most likely Glenn is 28 IIRC, which is hardly "old" for an OLer since good ones frequently play into well into their thirties. It looks like the Bills just want to shed salary, and they don't much care how much talent they dump in the process. If the Bills were truly interested in winning football games, instead of trading away their best OT to save $$$, they would use a day 1 or day 2 draft pick on an eventual replacement for Incognito who's 34 and, if it's a draft deep in OL prospects, maybe on one for Wood, too, who's 30 or 31. However, the Bills being the Bills, they'll trade Glenn for practically nothing, ignore the OL positions that should be priorities, and fill their OL spots with ST refugees and UDFA signees whom they'lll claim are "just as good" as the players they've traded, let walk in FA, retired, etc.
Luxy312 Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 Doing a deal like this would accelerate $22m against the Bills cap. Might as well have suggested that the Bills give all of their draft picks next year to the Patriots for Jimmy G. Beyond dumb.
ganesh Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 I agree. But I think Graham has less years left on his deal. With the cap hit for Glenn and Dareus, I think a contract swap may come into play. I thought the biggest issue with moving Glenn and Dareus is the cap hit we would take in 2017 and 2018. They are at least $12M for each player in each of those two years, Glenn is 28 IIRC, which is hardly "old" for an OLer since good ones frequently play into well into their thirties. It looks like the Bills just want to shed salary, and they don't much care how much talent they dump in the process. If the Bills were truly interested in winning football games, instead of trading away their best OT to save $$$, they would use a day 1 or day 2 draft pick on an eventual replacement for Incognito who's 34 and, if it's a draft deep in OL prospects, maybe on one for Wood, too, who's 30 or 31. However, the Bills being the Bills, they'll trade Glenn for practically nothing, ignore the OL positions that should be priorities, and fill their OL spots with ST refugees and UDFA signees whom they'lll claim are "just as good" as the players they've traded, let walk in FA, retired, etc. You are speculating so much about this front office.
boyst Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Doing a deal like this would accelerate $22m against the Bills cap. Might as well have suggested that the Bills give all of their draft picks next year to the Patriots for Jimmy G. Beyond dumb. give it a week and I'll be a thread on this
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 I agree. But I think Graham has less years left on his deal. With the cap hit for Glenn and Dareus, I think a contract swap may come into play. ....why are you inclined to trade Glenn?....long term health issues (are current issues long term)?.......quality of play?......other reason(s)?.....just curious bud...............
PABillsfan23 Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Injury prone Glenn for an even more injury prone Graham.. Nah
K D Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Glenn is 28 IIRC, which is hardly "old" for an OLer since good ones frequently play into well into their thirties. It looks like the Bills just want to shed salary, and they don't much care how much talent they dump in the process. If the Bills were truly interested in winning football games, instead of trading away their best OT to save $$$, they would use a day 1 or day 2 draft pick on an eventual replacement for Incognito who's 34 and, if it's a draft deep in OL prospects, maybe on one for Wood, too, who's 30 or 31. However, the Bills being the Bills, they'll trade Glenn for practically nothing, ignore the OL positions that should be priorities, and fill their OL spots with ST refugees and UDFA signees whom they'lll claim are "just as good" as the players they've traded, let walk in FA, retired, etc. Glenn has substantial trade value, Incognito and Wood are on the last deal of their careers and are a bargain by comparison. I'm not saying Glenn is old I'm saying Graham is. They are trying to get cheap young players, not expensive old players. Trading for Graham won't happen or any other player in their 30's making a lot of money.
jahbonas Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Only reason to even think of moving Cordy Glenn is if our medical staff felt his ankle injuries were chronic and disrupt his career. If this team plans on having success next year and year after etccc having a top Off Line is a requirement and you dont throw away a virtual probowl LT who gives us no off field problems
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Jimmy Graham will be 31 in November and has declining production...uh no thanks!
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Only reason to even think of moving Cordy Glenn is if our medical staff felt his ankle injuries were chronic and disrupt his career. If this team plans on having success next year and year after etccc having a top Off Line is a requirement and you dont throw away a virtual probowl LT who gives us no off field problems Season Week Description Status 2017 5 Foot, Ankle Questionable 2017 4 Foot, Ankle Out 2017 3 Foot, Ankle Out 2016 17 Back Out 2016 16 Back Doubtful 2016 15 Foot Doubtful 2016 14 Back Questionable 2016 13 Back Questionable 2016 12 Back Questionable 2016 9 Ankle Questionable 2016 8 Ankle Questionable 2016 7 Ankle Questionable 2016 6 Ankle Questionable 2016 5 Ankle Questionable 2016 4 Ankle Questionable 2016 3 Ankle Out 2016 2 Ankle Out 2015 13 Back Probable 2015 6 Ankle Probable 2015 5 Ankle Probable Edited October 21, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy
NewEra Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Makes sense to make a run this season. Don't see this regime making a move like this. Expect draft picks, younger players or quality player (maybe a more expensive on an expiring contract). Don't think any team gives us enough of what we're looking for.
aristocrat Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 grahams contract is up this year so the hawks getting something for him if they don't want to extend him could be a deal.
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