SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Bush Jr. just gave a speech indirectly criticizing Trump (I never remember a previous president fcriticizing the current president from their party). Any liberal that now props up George Bush Jr. just because he spoke out against Trump is a hack. If I voted for George W then criticized him and now agree with him. Am I a hack? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_s6W6nHHq5gg/S42LWY2yHWI/AAAAAAAAANk/myQIg4VgVFo/s400/george-bush-miss-me-yet.jpg Yes I do Edited October 20, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 If I voted for George W then criticized him and now agree with him. Am I a hack?http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_s6W6nHHq5gg/S42LWY2yHWI/AAAAAAAAANk/myQIg4VgVFo/s400/george-bush-miss-me-yet.jpgYes I do Depends. What did you criticize him for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Fake news blaming McCain http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/07/blog-posting/posts-blame-john-mccain-deadly-1967-fire-aboard-us/ The new skill now is determining what sources are fake. What might be true. Fact is I have heard this several times from different sources over the years. It kind of fits his profile. He continuously demonstrates his incompetence. Just his general moronic behavior leads me to believe this to be true for the most part. In other words, I'm thinking "yeah, I totally can see this dipshite pulling something like this". It's all we can do these days since all news sources on TV are controlled propaganda. We have to depend on the sources that pop up online that haven't been bullied, defunded or generally compromised yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The new skill now is determining what sources are fake. What might be true. Fact is I have heard this several times from different sources over the years. It kind of fits his profile. He continuously demonstrates his incompetence. Just his general moronic behavior leads me to believe this to be true for the most part. In other words, I'm thinking "yeah, I totally can see this dipshite pulling something like this". It's all we can do these days since all news sources on TV are controlled propaganda. We have to depend on the sources that pop up online that haven't been bullied, defunded or generally compromised yet. It easier to say that whatever you like is truth and whatever you don't like is fake. Problem is a lot of people like that treat everything not already in their skull as a target for hostility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The new skill now is determining what sources are fake. What might be true. Fact is I have heard this several times from different sources over the years. It kind of fits his profile. He continuously demonstrates his incompetence. Just his general moronic behavior leads me to believe this to be true for the most part. In other words, I'm thinking "yeah, I totally can see this dipshite pulling something like this". It's all we can do these days since all news sources on TV are controlled propaganda. We have to depend on the sources that pop up online that haven't been bullied, defunded or generally compromised yet. That story was started during McCain's 2008 campaign, and it's bull ****. McCain wasn't taking off, he was in the deck park aft, and the fire was caused by an electrical short in a plane in the deck park across the deck from where McCain was parked. And you can't ignite a missile or Zuni rocket with a plane's afterburner - modern explosives and rocket fuel don't work that way. Reality doesn't support this story, regardless of what you may or may not think of McCain personally. He wasn't taking off, his A-4s engine was at idle at most, it wasn't pointed at another plane, he didn't "wet start" anything (else he would have launched his A-4 across the deck into parked planes), and the rocket that he supposedly ignited with his supposed "wet start" came towards him from across the deck, where his engine wasn't pointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I dislike John McCain because he pretends to be something he isn't. That being a conservative. Conservative? The dude makes Trump look like a Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 John was a good conservative during the Reagan Era, as a congressman? He wasn't quite as admirable as B-1 Bob Dornan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Bush Jr. made the biggest foreign policy mistake in at least my lifetime in going to war with Iraq based off faulty intelligence. Twenty-seven democratic senators voted for the Iraq Resolution including Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Joe Biden. His administration and Congress also passed the Patriot Act which still lives on today in The US Freedom Act. Surveillance has only increased since its passage and I thought liberals were against mass surveillance. Bush's administration authorized torture of suspected terrorists in Guantanamo Bay and many liberals thought he should go to jail for that. If you prop up Bush Jr. just because he criticized Trump (who didn't have anything to do with any of the things Bush Jr. did and hasn't done much since entering office) you are a hack. Thanks for the very well thought out critique of the Bush years. I think he was terrible, even if I get the Iraq War; even if I wouldn't have had the balls to do it myself. Hopefully Iraq is on its slow path to being a democracy even while Trump and company are attacking Democratic norms here. Still, agreeing with his condemnation of bigotry, something I have spoken about again and again on this board, doesn't make me or anyone a hack. Trying to smear people for agreeing with his words might make someone a Trump hack, though. Did you read Bush's speech? Remember, he didn't run on scapegoating immigrants or even Islamic people. He tried to get Latinos to vote for him. He had many flaws, but that doesn't mean he has nothing to say on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 even while Trump and company are attacking Democratic norms here. -Tibs That's exactly what he was elected to do. How dare he... No more Peace at any Price weasel diplomacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 As a Independent I admire John McCain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 As a Independent I admire John McCain For what, specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Thanks for the very well thought out critique of the Bush years. I think he was terrible, even if I get the Iraq War; even if I wouldn't have had the balls to do it myself. Hopefully Iraq is on its slow path to being a democracy even while Trump and company are attacking Democratic norms here. Still, agreeing with his condemnation of bigotry, something I have spoken about again and again on this board, doesn't make me or anyone a hack. Trying to smear people for agreeing with his words might make someone a Trump hack, though. Did you read Bush's speech? Remember, he didn't run on scapegoating immigrants or even Islamic people. He tried to get Latinos to vote for him. He had many flaws, but that doesn't mean he has nothing to say on the matter Hacks gonna hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the very well thought out critique of the Bush years. I think he was terrible, even if I get the Iraq War; even if I wouldn't have had the balls to do it myself. Hopefully Iraq is on its slow path to being a democracy even while Trump and company are attacking Democratic norms here. Still, agreeing with his condemnation of bigotry, something I have spoken about again and again on this board, doesn't make me or anyone a hack. Trying to smear people for agreeing with his words might make someone a Trump hack, though. Did you read Bush's speech? Remember, he didn't run on scapegoating immigrants or even Islamic people. He tried to get Latinos to vote for him. He had many flaws, but that doesn't mean he has nothing to say on the matter Yes. I heard his speech and I'll admit it was quite brave. White supremacy is bad. Russia is bad. Immigration is good Outsourcing and free trade is good. Foreign intervention is good. Did it take him nine years to write it? Now most on the left are lionizing him because he took subtle jabs at Trump who they hate more at this moment. I just find it pathetic. Edited October 20, 2017 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 For what, specifically? McCain will not tow the party line , that is like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 McCain will not tow the party line , that is like me Of course McCain doesn't toe the party line. He's too bust toeing the Washington establishment line instead. If you supported Republicans that don't toe the party line and did so on conservative principle, you'd instead sing the praises of people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Of course McCain doesn't toe the party line. He's too bust toeing the Washington establishment line instead. If you supported Republicans that don't toe the party line and did so on conservative principle, you'd instead sing the praises of people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. couldn't agree more with the first two sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 couldn't agree more with the first two sentences. $#@%! Too bad I can't spell "busy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 $#@%! Too bad I can't spell "busy". It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 It's all good. I do take solace in my ability to differentiate between "tow" and "toe". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 Shortly thereafter, Corker revived his metaphor of the White House as an "adult daycare center." Same untruths from an utterly untruthful president. #AlertTheDaycareStaff — Senator Bob Corker (@SenBobCorker) October 24, 2017 http://theweek.com/speedreads/732847/gop-sen-bob-corker-shuts-down-trumps-twitter-rant-by-summoning-daycare-staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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