SS Edmund Fitzgerald

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

I double checked, double take the Spain thing.  Being so old... I thought they may have taking it out of service for good.

 

Since destination is input at pilothouse,  other AiS programs must show the same,  no... Marin, Spain and Marine City, Michigan... Are similar!  Goes to show you not to count on technology!

Try the Boatnerd (www.boatnerd.com) website to see what their AIS shows for the AMA's destination.  The Boatnerd site took a step backwards with the redesign, but it was necessary due to server requirements.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Because the Midwest is near the center of population?

 

😛

in 100 more years it may actually be right 

 

 

[Poleshifter]

4 hours ago, WhoTom said:

 

I've been to:
Reno, Chicago, Fargo, Minnesota,
Buffalo, Toronto, Winslow, Sarasota,
Wichita, Tulsa, Ottawa, Oklahoma,
Tampa, Panama, Mattawa, La Paloma,
Bangor, Baltimore, Salvador, Amarillo,
Tocapillo, Baranquilla, and Perdilla, I'm a killer.

 

 

You think the rappers of today can talk fast? They got nothing on ol' Hank Snow.

[ExiledInIllinois]

19 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Try the Boatnerd (www.boatnerd.com) website to see what their AIS shows for the AMA's destination.  The Boatnerd site took a step backwards with the redesign, but it was necessary due to server requirements.

Since MarineTraffic is based out of Cyprus we can't officially use it at work. We have an in-house,  🇺🇸 production system overlayed on Google EarthPro.  Guys at work were asking why we can't link to others when ours goes down.   The security answer was given... Not sure how true that is! ??

[Poleshifter]

19 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Arthur M. Anderson is still plying The Lakes... Anderson was the last vessel to make contact with The Fitz.

 

Wanna see where The Anderson is on the live AiS map... Just east of Alpena, Michigan at time of this post:

 

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-83.0/centery:45.2/zoom:8

 

Looks like The Anderson is leaving The Lakes and heading to Marin, Spain for the winter... Origin was Drummond Island, Michigan...

I am surprised those long skinny lake freighters can survive on the larger waves of the Atlantic. I thought they were designed for the Great Lakes, but I am just a land lubber.

17 hours ago, Doc said:

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"

 

That line always gets me.

"She might have dove deep and took water" is a very eery graphic image to me. The sea is a cruel mistress.

[BuffaloBill]

4 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

 

 

"Well I hear you went up to Saratoga
And your horse naturally won"

 

This could be the theme song for many around here…

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 minutes ago, Poleshifter said:

I am surprised those long skinny lake freighters can survive on the larger waves of the Atlantic. I thought they were designed for the Great Lakes, but I am just a land lubber.

"She might have dove deep and took water" is a very eery graphic image to me. The sea is a cruel mistress.

The Lakers stay on the Lakes.  I was all confused when the AiS was showing destination as Spain. @Ridgewaycynic2013 caught it! Can't even fit through Welland.   So... Arthur M. Anderson has to remain in Lakes Superior (Soo lock is 1200'), Michigan, Huron, & Erie.

 

IIRC, ocean waves have a longer frequency vs. Great Lakes waves.

[ExiledInIllinois]

9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

in 100 more years it may actually be right 

 

 

Factor in Alaska and Hawaii... The geographical center is up near The Badlands of South Dakota.  If anything, population center will move further south like it's trending now. 

[4merper4mer]

How has Tremaine “Edmunds” not been blamed for this yet?  Everything else is his fault and his name is all over this tragedy.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

56 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

How has Tremaine “Edmunds” not been blamed for this yet?  Everything else is his fault and his name is all over this tragedy.

 

cuz it was aliens 👽?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

17 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Good catch! Now @ 729' the Fitz would have fit through... But then again these are Lake Boats made for Lake waves... Superstructure/wheelhouse is fore/bow, not aft/stern like the salties!  May they even go in the ocean, are they fitted for salt even if they could fit through Seaway specs?

The 'fore and aft' cabin design hasn't been built for lakers for years, whether the boat was built in a foreign or domestic yard.  Last recent domestic newbuild is the Mark W. Barker launched in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin last week.  Smaller than a full Seaway Max size, both Canadian and US fleets are seeing the wisdom in smaller builds to serve smaller, shallower ports.  The Barker also has a bow mounted self unloading boom, which is a design that increases the versatility of a self unloader.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 11/11/2021 at 3:33 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

AIS destinations I believe are manually entered.  It's not unusual for a boat to show 'the barn' as the destination when heading for lay up.  Someone in the Anderson's pilothouse is having some fun.

As a follow up to this, I recall a few seasons back a Canadian boat's destination was shown as 'Miller Time'.  I asked a friend who sails relief out of the union hall if the boat was going to lay up.  No, he informed me, the boat was heading to Miller Aggregates in Windsor Ontario for a load of stone.  There's some measure of creativity on the part of whoever's filling in the destination on at least Boatnerd.com's AIS.

[ExiledInIllinois]

On 11/16/2021 at 9:38 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

As a follow up to this, I recall a few seasons back a Canadian boat's destination was shown as 'Miller Time'.  I asked a friend who sails relief out of the union hall if the boat was going to lay up.  No, he informed me, the boat was heading to Miller Aggregates in Windsor Ontario for a load of stone.  There's some measure of creativity on the part of whoever's filling in the destination on at least Boatnerd.com's AIS.

Little bit of a clustereff on the Calumet River... Waiting for the Friday rush-hour bridges to lift... Looks like the A.M. Anderson made it back from Spain🇪🇸... 😉... Well @ least Detroit! 😆 

 

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-87.538/centery:41.701/zoom:12

Showing the Algoma Intrepid down in Da Hood too! 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Gales of November blowing tonight!

 

3 Lakers, Great Republic, James R. Barker, & Wilfred Sykes anchored & riding it out between Racine & Evanston... Destination Gary/Burns/Indiana Harbor:

 

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-87.6/centery:42.6/zoom:9

 

Winds 40+ knots... Wave occasionally to 18' subsiding tomorrow...

[T&C]

"Endurance" has been found... great name for a ship that didn't endure.

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2022/03/09/antarctic-explorer-shackleton-s-ship-found-after-a-century

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

23 minutes ago, T&C said:

"Endurance" has been found... great name for a ship that didn't endure.

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2022/03/09/antarctic-explorer-shackleton-s-ship-found-after-a-century

It is in very good condition.

[Wacka]

48 minutes ago, T&C said:

"Endurance" has been found... great name for a ship that didn't endure.

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2022/03/09/antarctic-explorer-shackleton-s-ship-found-after-a-century

It endured, but at the bottom of the sea.

[gdabillsfan]

On 11/10/2021 at 7:36 PM, Bad Things said:

"... and farther below Lake Ontario takes in what lake Erie can send her."

 

Love that song and proudly sing that line every time I head it.  It's probably the only song I know of that mentions Lake Ontario or the region where I'm from originally.  (Rochester.)  

Apart from this song and "The Erie Canal", what other songs mention upstate NY?

Foreigner " rev on the red line" mentions Lake Ave.

Runnin' all night on Lake Avenue
It's a piece of cake
If you know what to do
You've got to lose a few
'Til the stakes get high
When the odds are right
You just blow by

 

 

[T&C]

20 minutes ago, Wacka said:

It endured, but at the bottom of the sea.

The men did for sure, and like Ridge mentioned it really looks to be in good shape after all this time. I guess  the water is too cold for woodworms and the like.

[Tiberius]

Isn't it true there's no agreement on why she sank? 

 

They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water