Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 For some perhaps, and for others merely bias. And many others, it doesn't matter. The point is that it does matter to enough that it makes a difference. You realize, of course, that you're being a racist with that kind of thinking.
Rob's House Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I'm sorry you will forever be the guy who was upset because he didn't know how to explain to his kid 2 people of the same sex kissing in public. It is hard to discuss this topic with you without thinking about that. My post was simply to draw attention to the fact that we are not that far off from systemic institutionalized discriminatory racism and to pretend that in just 50 years it has vanished is naive at best imo. I kind of think it's naive to assume that things haven't changed that much. It's not like 50 years ago everyone was racist and then change started; it's been over 50 years since the dominant culture officially rejected racial discrimination, and we've moved rapidly and obsessively in that direction ever since. We now live in a culture that views racism as the supreme evil and anti-racism as the greatest virtue. Even saying something slightly racist can destroy a career. There's little worse than being labeled a white racist in America. Yet the sanctimonious "we have a long way to go" crowd ignores all of that and despite the absence of much supporting evidence declares we're a nation "steeped in racism" without any sense of historical or global perspective. But who needs evidence when you have self-righteous snark to support your position.
reddogblitz Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Making fun of blind people is always fun.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I kind of think it's naive to assume that things haven't changed that much. It's not like 50 years ago everyone was racist and then change started; it's been over 50 years since the dominant culture officially rejected racial discrimination, and we've moved rapidly and obsessively in that direction ever since. We now live in a culture that views racism as the supreme evil and anti-racism as the greatest virtue. Even saying something slightly racist can destroy a career. There's little worse than being labeled a white racist in America. Yet the sanctimonious "we have a long way to go" crowd ignores all of that and despite the absence of much supporting evidence declares we're a nation "steeped in racism" without any sense of historical or global perspective. But who needs evidence when you have self-righteous snark to support your position. I've long said that racism witch hunts are akin to McCarthyism. Racism is the new Communism.
reddogblitz Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) I recently took a dna ancestry test. Guess what? I'm 1.2% victim!! Raising my fist daily now and pulling out the racial/victim card because now that I'm 1.2% victim....I can!!! Can't wait to make more money and start my own protest AND make excuses for my performance because of my newly found race! Booya!! 1 drop of black blood is all it takes to be black. Edited October 16, 2017 by reddogblitz
Rob's House Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I've long said that racism witch hunts are akin to McCarthyism. Racism is the new Communism. I like that.
reddogblitz Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I've long said that racism witch hunts are akin to McCarthyism. Racism is the new Communism. Except McCarthyism is back.
keepthefaith Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Haven't read 29 pages but if Tyrod actually thinks consistently with his statement, the Bills should consider cutting him. Obviously the guy can't self assess his own play vs expectations for someone at his pay grade and his position. He's been a decent quarterback but not one that should command a long term deal at current NFL starter money. Not yet anyway. Give the ball to someone who won't make that excuse, black, white, brown, yellow or purple.
Fixxxer Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Does Taylor have cause to feel frustrated how his performance is perceived? I'd say yes, but for a variety of reasons. But leaving aside the question of race in that, one general observation on black athletes : They seem to have an easier time embodying any number of undesirable traits - such as "selfish" or "arrogant" or "obnoxious" - than their white peers. Given human nature, that sorta thing is never far off - so it's a bit unfair black athletes appear to have an inside track. My favorite example is "thug". I've see that term thrown around a lot in sports talk, but can't ever remember a white "thug". A few year back Virginia Tech had a very-white (honest-to-god) "thug" kicker. But I don't think anyone ever called him that....... Romanowski, Matt Jones and/or Ryan Leaf would qualify, IMO. Janikowski was thuggish at some point IIRC.
xsoldier54 Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Agree. Tyrod is held to the same standard as every other NFL QB. Did he do his job or didn't he? Period.
Gugny Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Personally I am not questioning where he was drafted.....Nathan Peterman was drafted in the 5th round and he may actually be a good qb in the end. I am trying to point out that Tyrod was greatly stereotyped coming out of college because of his extreme athletism He HAS grown as a QB in his time as a backup to baltimore....if he was as bad as some make him out to be he would not have gotten an opportunity to start. Maybe we do need better...but it should not take away from what he has actually accomplished and there are too many people trying to brush that aside. That is all I am trying to say Be that as it may (or may not), the point is that none of his criticisms or "standards" to which he is being held, have one iota of a schit to do with the color of his skin and he is a prick for even saying it. I hope the Bills win every game, but I hope he plays like schit and gets his ass handed to him (not wishing injury, though).
B-Man Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Making fun of blind people is always fun. Well....................It was obvious to everyone that I was making fun of #Badol's posts and his (?) inability to see others viewpoints. but thanks for taking the time out of your "how many drops of blood make you Black" discussion.
Wayne Arnold Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I am glad Tyrod spoke up about an issue that has been ignored and swept under the rug for too long. The abuse heaped upon star athletes in our society. It can start even before high school. Then in high school they are singled out, identified, forced to interact with cheerleaders and other icky girl people. For some it gets crueler still where they are made to sign letters binding them to colleges and then torn from their homes. When away from the safety of their family homes, they are subjected to more harassment from girl and women people, but now there is no escape and it can last all night long. They are also subjected to the horrors of perks from people calling themselves "boosters". Thankfully the most tragic outcomes are uncommon. But poor Tyrod is one of those uncommon few. Tyrod Taylor is a starting quarterback in the NFL. Will the nightmare never end for Tyrod?? Tyrod Taylor is more than an abuse survivor. Tyrod Taylor is Hero.
San-O Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) LOL + 1 I'm sorry, but this is MY #1 post of the year. Thank you for finding something humorous in this. Hilarious. 888****************************************************** SEE ABOVE POST ********************************************************** Edited October 17, 2017 by San-O
DC Tom Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 I hope the Bills do the right thing and just cut all the black players. They'll no longer be oppressed by the expectations placed on football players, and a team composed solely of white players should handily win every game with the privilege their lack of skin pigmentation gives them...
Turk71 Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Had no idea this thread was based on something Tyrod thought or said, so I just ignored it. To find out he actually thinks and is publicly stating this is so pathetically lame and disappointing, especially after that stinkfest in Cincinnati.
KD in CA Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 We are 70 years removed from Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in baseball. We are 63 years removed from Brown vs. Board of Education. We are 54 years removed from "I have a dream." and "segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" 91 million Americans are older than 54 So 91 million Americans were alive during a time when it was perfectly acceptable to discriminate based on the color of skin. It would be a broad (and ignorant) stroke to say they were all racist but imo it would be just as ignorant to pretend that some of these people don't still hold onto their racist ideals sports figure or not. I think we as America are making a lot of progress and the further these events get away from current events the better off we will be but they aren't that far in our rear view. So 240 million Americans have never lived one day in those eras? And when your big evidence is that no one under 60 can even remember any of that stuff (much less still feel related to it), I'd say those events ARE that far in our rear view.
jr1 Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 some of his biggest critics like Donald Jones are black
BeginnersMind Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) You realize, of course, that you're being a racist with that kind of thinking. Making an observation that some people are racist makes me racist? That's new. Edited October 17, 2017 by BeginnersMind
Gugny Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 I hope the Bills do the right thing and just cut all the black players. They'll no longer be oppressed by the expectations placed on football players, and a team composed solely of white players should handily win every game with the privilege their lack of skin pigmentation gives them... Somewhere .... Chip Kelly is smiling ...
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