Billsfan1972 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 This team is feasting on it through 5 weeks. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/givetake Between them & Jacksonville there is all this false hope that it will continue and some here seem 100% convinced it will continue. Yep Jacksonville will force 48 TO's this year, KC will have 3 TO on offense all year and Buffalo will have 32 TO's and be +26 for the year. Many of the these teams will revert to the mean and that will be the biggest indicator of their record at the end of the season. The Defense will slip, the question is how much and can the Offense do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 This team is feasting on it through 5 weeks. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/givetake Between them & Jacksonville there is all this false hope that it will continue and some here seem 100% convinced it will continue. Yep Jacksonville will force 48 TO's this year, KC will have 3 TO on offense all year and Buffalo will have 32 TO's and be +26 for the year. Many of the these teams will revert to the mean and that will be the biggest indicator of their record at the end of the season. The Defense will slip, the question is how much and can the Offense do anything. Agreed. Odds are defense cant hold this up entire season. Offense at some point will have to step it up. That being said, turnovers by the defense are an odd thing sometimes; we can have a year where the ball literally bounces our way and we continue producing turnovers. Based on history, you know our offense wont commit many turnovers. So im cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 Yes but not at this historical level....... Doubt we end the year with 6 TO's..... Least since 2014 is 11 Turnovers and outside Carolina (SB year) having a +20 differential, a great year is +10....... Will be interesting to see the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 If the offense rarely turns the ball over, why can't the defense continue do the same. They play hard and have earned those turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 If the offense rarely turns the ball over, why can't the defense continue do the same. They play hard and have earned those turnovers. Just doesn't happen...... Ever....... Yep KC 3 turnovers this season, Buffalo 6 and +25 differentials. Wanna bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 This is certainly a great metric but I still don't see this defense keeping up this kind of pace throughout the season in terms of both TO's created and points allowed. And as great is this is we are still only 3-2 and losing against the Bengals despite creating 3 TO's is still very telling in terms of projecting how good or bad this team truly is. This is why it's absolutely critical we do something, anything to try and get the offense going because as these defense numbers begin to slide the wins will be few and far between if the offense can't figure out how to move the ball and score points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 This team is feasting on it through 5 weeks. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/givetake Between them & Jacksonville there is all this false hope that it will continue and some here seem 100% convinced it will continue. Yep Jacksonville will force 48 TO's this year, KC will have 3 TO on offense all year and Buffalo will have 32 TO's and be +26 for the year. Many of the these teams will revert to the mean and that will be the biggest indicator of their record at the end of the season. The Defense will slip, the question is how much and can the Offense do anything. Excellent point. Turnover differential through 5 games: Bills +8. On pace for about +25 Last year's leader for the full season: KC and OAK at +16 2015 full season: CAR + 20 (that's a good way to go 15-1) 2014 full season: GB + 14 Teams can have lucky runs for a full season ... again, Carolina in 2015. But we know by now that in particular creating turnovers has a large element of randomness. CAR 2014: +3 CAR 2015: +20 CAR 2016: -2 CAR 2017 so far: -6 I will say Taylor in particular is great at avoiding turnovers. Taking those sacks drives us crazy, but he doesn't throw picks, so we'll probably have a good turnover ratio. But this level, which is dependent on not losing fumbles too, is very unlikely to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 This team is feasting on it through 5 weeks. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/givetake Between them & Jacksonville there is all this false hope that it will continue and some here seem 100% convinced it will continue. Yep Jacksonville will force 48 TO's this year, KC will have 3 TO on offense all year and Buffalo will have 32 TO's and be +26 for the year. Many of the these teams will revert to the mean and that will be the biggest indicator of their record at the end of the season. The Defense will slip, the question is how much and can the Offense do anything. Thank you so much for enlightening us all. Wheze is al sow dum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just doesn't happen...... Ever....... Yep KC 3 turnovers this season, Buffalo 6 and +25 differentials. Wanna bet? True. But we weren't we likely to set the NFL record of only 10 turnovers last year until EJ started the last game of the year. We have a history of not turning the ball over with Taylor. That is good and bad as we know. At the end of the season i would expect a good and maybe even very good +/- differential. Probably not historically good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thank you so much for enlightening us all. Wheze is al sow dum Sumz r....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 If the offense rarely turns the ball over, why can't the defense continue do the same. They play hard and have earned those turnovers. I The offense isn't "protecting the ball" because of luck. They're not turning it over because we have a QB who only throws the ball more that 3 feet in the air if a defender falls down. The defense's turnovers have been pretty lucky. It only makes sense that the luck will run out, IMO. Either that, or Hyde's just gonna happen to be within diving distance of tipped balls all season long. Sumz r....... Are you a hamster, by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 You can bet that this won't continue, at least not at the current ratio. What matters more is what the offense does when they are gifted an extra possession, and what the defense does if/when the Bills start turning over the ball more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Well I guess we can thank Tyrod for this. He doesn't have a lot of yards in the air. But he doesn't have to I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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