Harvey Weinstein (and others) accused of sexual harrasement

[Deranged Rhino]

One such action could be to bar confidentiality clauses pertaining to harassment from being included in employment contracts. Another could be the elimination of mandatory arbitration clauses that forbid court action and require all settlements to remain strictly confidential as was the case with Gretchen Carlson, for example. These types of clauses allow predators to remain in their jobs while the employees are sent packing.

 

I'd be for that. The language in Harvey's contract that allowed for him to assault women is so depressingly sad when you really think about what it means. Everyone knew what he was doing, so much so he had a special clause in his contract to ALLOW him to do it.

 

There are a lot of people claiming to be shocked by this story in the press who 100% knew what was happening. Some of the reactions have really disappointed me personally.

 

I would tend to agree.

 

It has been sobering seeing the number of women I know and care about who are sharing the #metoo hashtag. They aren't famous and they don't work anywhere near Hollywood.

 

Also agree. I've had plenty of women friends working in the business tell me some really disturbing stuff over the years. Working in the trenches in the industry is a lonely place when you're getting harassed by the bigger fish. Unlike other industries, these people can not just end your career, they can make you a pariah in the eyes of the world if you dare speak up against them. It's a no win situation.

 

The cleansing fire this story could/should/hopefully will bring is welcomed by me.

 

How busy do you think corporate HR departments are this week?

 

This moment, given a common voice through the hashtag, and also due to the currently aroused ire of a lot of women over the last year, will result in more executives than Harvey Weinstein out on their keesters.

 

I think you're being naive if you think hashtags alone are doing anything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the hashtags are worthless. Awareness is important, it's just accomplishes very little. Especially in today's world where we all have watered down attention spans. People will forget the hashtag and what it means when the next big "story" comes out.

[boyst]

 

If the definition of sexual harassment is going to be expanded to include "asking a woman to dinner more than twice," I am in truly deep ****.

well I'm going back to the big house if that's the case... That damn watch list too

[DC Tom]

I would tend to agree.

 

It has been sobering seeing the number of women I know and care about who are sharing the #metoo hashtag. They aren't famous and they don't work anywhere near Hollywood.

I said this in another thread a while ago: I know personally about a dozen women who have been raped (not just harassed, but physically penetrated by a man against their will.) Several suggested I must move in some very..."unusual" circles to know this many rape victims.

 

No, not really. It's just far more common than people think, and not often talked about.

[boyst]

 

I'd be for that. The language in Harvey's contract that allowed for him to assault women is so depressingly sad when you really think about what it means. Everyone knew what he was doing, so much so he had a special clause in his contract to ALLOW him to do it.

 

There are a lot of people claiming to be shocked by this story in the press who 100% knew what was happening. Some of the reactions have really disappointed me personally.

 

 

Also agree. I've had plenty of women friends working in the business tell me some really disturbing stuff over the years. Working in the trenches in the industry is a lonely place when you're getting harassed by the bigger fish. Unlike other industries, these people can not just end your career, they can make you a pariah in the eyes of the world if you dare speak up against them. It's a no win situation.

 

The cleansing fire this story could/should/hopefully will bring is welcomed by me.

 

 

I think you're being naive if you think hashtags alone are doing anything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the hashtags are worthless. Awareness is important, it's just accomplishes very little. Especially in today's world where we all have watered down attention spans. People will forget the hashtag and what it means when the next big "story" comes out.

#itwasme

I said this in another thread a while ago: I know personally about a dozen women who have been raped (not just harassed, but physically penetrated by a man against their will.) Several suggested I must move in some very..."unusual" circles to know this many rape victims.

 

No, not really. It's just far more common than people think, and not often talked about.

fully agree, I've known 5 or 6 myself

[Gugny]

I said this in another thread a while ago: I know personally about a dozen women who have been raped (not just harassed, but physically penetrated by a man against their will.) Several suggested I must move in some very..."unusual" circles to know this many rape victims.

 

No, not really. It's just far more common than people think, and not often talked about.

 

Rape, to me, is the worst person-to-person crime, imaginable. Such a horrible violation. It infuriates me and - as one who is anti-death penalty - a large part of me would like to see every rapist executed. Slowly.

[Jauronimo]

I said this in another thread a while ago: I know personally about a dozen women who have been raped (not just harassed, but physically penetrated by a man against their will.) Several suggested I must move in some very..."unusual" circles to know this many rape victims.

 

No, not really. It's just far more common than people think, and not often talked about.

I've seen the stats but I didn't think it was happening to people I knew. Willful naivety on my part it would seem.

 

#itwasme

Yeah, it was you. Why you think it's funny is beyond my comprehension.

[boyst]

I've seen the stats but I didn't think it was happening to people I knew. Willful naivety on my part it would seem.

 

Yeah, it was you. Why you think it's funny is beyond my comprehension.

because hashtags are pathetic

I've seen the stats but I didn't think it was happening to people I knew. Willful naivety on my part it would seem.

 

Yeah, it was you. Why you think it's funny is beyond my comprehension.

and honestly the part that scares me more, is not that I've known so many people to have been raped. It's wondering how many of the guys i have known that have committed rape Edited October 17, 2017 by Boyst62

[DC Tom]

because hashtags are pathetic

and honestly the part that scares me more, is not that I've known so many people to have been raped. It's wondering how many of the guys i have known that have committed rape

Given that, in this day and age, drunkenness is lack of consent, and sometimes the "wrong kind" of consent is lack of consent...all of them.

 

Violent, forcible rape and date rape...I suspect, like most crimes, a minority of predators are responsible for the majority of cases. (Though in the cases I know, there were about 18 rapists. Yes, 18. That is not a typo.)

[boyst]

Given that, in this day and age, drunkenness is lack of consent, and sometimes the "wrong kind" of consent is lack of consent...all of them.

 

Violent, forcible rape and date rape...I suspect, like most crimes, a minority of predators are responsible for the majority of cases. (Though in the cases I know, there were about 18 rapists. Yes, 18. That is not a typo.)

I have met a few myself, their level of narcissism and worldview is amazing. There is nothing they can quite understand in reality that isn't somehow bent towards them

[Saxum]

Hollywood blackballs actors

The NFL player blackballs himself

 

Corrected.

I have yet to hear anyone from FOX News telling me who I should vote for, which charity I should be giving too, how I should be spending my money, which causes I should and should not be a part of, and how wrong I am for not doing what they say I should be doing.

 

I get that all of the time from Hollywood.

 

You haven't listed to FOX News apparently.

[boyst]

 

Corrected.

 

 

You haven't listed to FOX News apparently.

no he's right, Fox News doesn't tell you who to vote for, they just question the other guys. They don't answer questions or bake full statements they lead to you thinking about it and coming to your conclusion which is Democrats bad. But they are. Sea and N however will outright attack their opposite you points to leave no doubt.

[Saxum]

It's well known that Ziyi Zhang slept her way to the top, and she's never denied it.

I...well...where the hell was I when this was happening, goddammit!!!!!

 

Well obviously on the bottom.

 

What?

 

She in fact did and does deny it. And she has won big settlements for defamation against news sources who pushed that story.

 

And it is not well known that she slept her way to anything. What is well understood is that she was a victim of a smear campaign and that the claims are not at all true.

 

Well it is also well known that Trump's campaign was funded by the Kremlin,

 

It shows "what is well known" is not always true .... sometimes.

Hash tagging is nothing more than a way to run a slogan, except with more power to land in your consciousness due to the delivery platform.

 

Hash tagging is way for twits who smoked too much hash to make themselves look effective.

I'd be for that. The language in Harvey's contract that allowed for him to assault women is so depressingly sad when you really think about what it means. Everyone knew what he was doing, so much so he had a special clause in his contract to ALLOW him to do it.

 

Like Dareus and no penalized for smoky clause.

[mead107]

So, did he sleep with more some than Wilt chamberlain?

[Saxum]

I read on LinkedIn (other other social place I frequent) that is company is being sold due to in part the lawsuits and allegations.

His antics are of course a popular subject in job forums.

[IDBillzFan]

Well it is also well known that Trump's campaign was funded by the Kremlin,

 

By 'well know' do you mean it was as well known as the millions of dollars laundered through the Clinton Foundation from Russia for a special uranium deal?

 

You mean like THAT well known? Because the whole freaking world watched her take Russian money through her charitable "foundation" and I don't recall you calling her out on it.

[bbb]

So, did he sleep with more some than Wilt chamberlain?

 

Did he sleep with anybody? It seems that every story I've read - he tries some sort of massage or shower gambit and the woman leaves.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Did he sleep with anybody? It seems that every story I've read - he tries some sort of massage or shower gambit and the woman leaves.

 

We're only hearing the stories of the women who resisted or who were assaulted. There were plenty who gave in to his advances eithe out of fear or the desire for quid pro quo.

[BeginnersMind]

 

Did he sleep with anybody? It seems that every story I've read - he tries some sort of massage or shower gambit and the woman leaves.

 

 

It's not easy for a woman to admit she slept with him to help her career. Pretty deep shame moment.

[Kelly the Dog]

 

Great article with a some great pictures like:

 

http://buffalonews.com/2017/10/15/harvey-weinstein-buffalo-years/

This is why we cant have nice things.

 

 

Of all things that picture was at a Bob Hope show at the Aud in 1977

 

I'm still pissed about Forrest Gump beating out Shawshank.

Plus, Forrest Gump was way exaggerated. Some of those 99 yard runs were actually like 60.

[Dante]

 

I'd be for that. The language in Harvey's contract that allowed for him to assault women is so depressingly sad when you really think about what it means. Everyone knew what he was doing, so much so he had a special clause in his contract to ALLOW him to do it.

 

There are a lot of people claiming to be shocked by this story in the press who 100% knew what was happening. Some of the reactions have really disappointed me personally.

 

 

Also agree. I've had plenty of women friends working in the business tell me some really disturbing stuff over the years. Working in the trenches in the industry is a lonely place when you're getting harassed by the bigger fish. Unlike other industries, these people can not just end your career, they can make you a pariah in the eyes of the world if you dare speak up against them. It's a no win situation.

 

The cleansing fire this story could/should/hopefully will bring is welcomed by me.

 

 

I think you're being naive if you think hashtags alone are doing anything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the hashtags are worthless. Awareness is important, it's just accomplishes very little. Especially in today's world where we all have watered down attention spans. People will forget the hashtag and what it means when the next big "story" comes out.

Not sure why all this stuff is a a shocking revelation to all. I mean, the "casting couch" has been a cliche for years. I suppose it's like it always these days. More grist for the mill. Just think, if it's this bad in Hollywood, think how much worse it is in Washington? Hell, they can sic the IRS, legal system or any number of authoritarian bureaucracies on you if you don't fall in line.

Edited October 20, 2017 by Dante