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WFT is up with these guys? In what world is this acceptable behavior?

 

I mean, JFC I couldn't even entertain the thought of some of this stuff, maybe it's how I was raised to view women but honestly...this just makes me sad.

 

it has been well known since around 1908 that parts in movies are given out through sexual favours

what turnip truck did someone just fall off to not know this, OR WORSE pretend they didn't

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it has been well known since around 1908 that parts in movies are given out through sexual favours

what turnip truck did someone just fall off to not know this, OR WORSE pretend they didn't

I suppose in your mind that excuses sexual assault?

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I suppose in your mind that excuses sexual assault?

 

It's a huge bowl of "way to late" to try to rectify the situation in a week, I'm not sure more than a dozen Hollywood biggies can survive a purge if it goes this far.

 

I have always felt this lifestyle was an abomination and do not participate in this myself, nor give money or time to Hollywood movies.

GoBills, you HONESTLY NEVER heard that people give their bodies over to land a role before Harvey?

 

You make me laugh.... you probably beat it to some personal fantasies about having this power since you were 12.

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It's a huge bowl of "way to late" to try to rectify the situation in a week, I'm not sure more than a dozen Hollywood biggies can survive a purge if it goes this far.

 

I have always felt this lifestyle was an abomination and do not participate in this myself, nor give money or time to Hollywood movies.

GoBills, you HONESTLY NEVER heard that people give their bodies over to land a role before Harvey?

 

You make me laugh.... you probably beat it to some personal fantasies about having this power since you were 12.

No. Where I come from men don't act like that.

 

And it's not funny, it's sad that you've taken a not-unheard of phenomenon and used it as justification for the crimes these men have committed.

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Hey, don't we have a couple of posters here who work in Hollywood?

 

Part of me is expecting someone from TBD to get accused of being too handsy at Hammer's Lot.

 

BADOL beat you to the punch

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not to get too dicey on this board, but I always scoffed when told this kind of stuff is 100% about POWER and 0% about SEX.

 

I can accept its about both, maybe sliding the scale a bit more towards the power side.

 

I agree with you 100%. I disagree with you 0%

 

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Why aren't people speaking up when this schit is actually happening?

 

What did they think they would get in return for staying silent?

 

I am not giving these scum bags a pass, but don't people stand up for themselves, have ideals no matter what it does to their career.

 

You know who I really respect, Jewel, the singer... She talked about this schit, but didn't sell her ideals to the casting couch... And she still made it big. She talked about this stuff a bunch of years ago.

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I'm not even sure it was a given he had any sexuality at all.

 

Me neither, but the guy is a walking mess of inappropriateness.

 

 

That's among the least surprising things I've ever read!

 

 

That's all I'm saying.

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Me neither, but the guy is a walking mess of inappropriateness.

 

 

 

That's all I'm saying.

 

I could see Andy Dick thinking "hey, look at all the press these guys are getting; I have to get in on this sexual harassment thing!"

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Why aren't people speaking up when this schit is actually happening?

 

What did they think they would get in return for staying silent?

 

I am not giving these scum bags a pass, but don't people stand up for themselves, have ideals no matter what it does to their career.

 

You know who I really respect, Jewel, the singer... She talked about this schit, but didn't sell her ideals to the casting couch... And she still made it big. She talked about this stuff a bunch of years ago.

 

Lots of people do speak up when it happens. They just had/have no platform or way to amplify their message - which made it super easy to crush them and keep them silent either through direct pressure or media pressure. Hollywood is a small town, surprisingly, your reputation is 90% of what gets you work. Someone like HW can kill a career through word of mouth.

 

Social media changed the equation. Now even the lowliest person on a set or in a production office has a huge platform and a way to fight back against that kind of smear tactic.

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Lots of people do speak up when it happens. They just had/have no platform or way to amplify their message - which made it super easy to crush them and keep them silent either through direct pressure or media pressure. Hollywood is a small town, surprisingly, your reputation is 90% of what gets you work. Someone like HW can kill a career through word of mouth.

 

Social media changed the equation. Now even the lowliest person on a set or in a production office has a huge platform and a way to fight back against that kind of smear tactic.

Bullfiuckingshit! There is a plateform and always has been. The narcissistic bastards put up with it because they never wanted to hear the words youll never work in this town again! So they put up with it. They got what they deserved. I worked in restaurants in LA and Hollywood for 10 years. Cooked at some of the biggest names. I didnt put up with their ****.

 

We did a movie premiere when I was at Ma Maison in the mid 80s. They told us to just stand there and let the guests serve themselves. Jose Eber comes by and holds out his plate. I give a slight how ya doin nod. He holds the plate a little further out. I give another nod. Clearly annoyed he shoves the plate at me. I smile and calmly hand him the tongs. !@#$stick served himself for probably the first time in years.

 

They all deserve each other.

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