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27 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Food for thought:

Is this string of public outings and the utter detonation of major media figures all in a row coincidence?

Is it just the inevitable result of a viral #MeToo campaign? 

 

... Or are we seeing a deliberate take down of a network?

 

"In 1977, Carl Bernstein published an exposé of a CIA program known as Operation Mockingbird, a covert program involving, according to Bernstein, “more than 400 American journalists who in the past 25 years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency.” Bernstein found that in “many instances” CIA documents revealed that “journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations.”

 

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-are-the-media-taking-the-cias-hacking-claims-at-face-value/

 

Wild speculation? 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Food for thought:

Is this string of public outings and the utter detonation of major media figures all in a row coincidence?

Is it just the inevitable result of a viral #MeToo campaign? 

 

... Or are we seeing a deliberate take down of a network?

 

"In 1977, Carl Bernstein published an exposé of a CIA program known as Operation Mockingbird, a covert program involving, according to Bernstein, “more than 400 American journalists who in the past 25 years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency.” Bernstein found that in “many instances” CIA documents revealed that “journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations.”

 

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-are-the-media-taking-the-cias-hacking-claims-at-face-value/

 

 

We're seeing a deliberate takedown...but it has nothing to do with intel.

Posted
1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

We're seeing a deliberate takedown...but it has nothing to do with intel.

 

I can't say that definitively, especially when you factor in the timing, the going ons in KSA, and the amount of mockingbird types being shown the door.

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I thought the CIA funded Arts and Culture and all kinds of public things since WW2, explains Jackson Pollock and other things that HAD to be funded 100% by covert operations.

 

It was a good project, showed that America actually had something in intellectual work to compare to Europe and the USSR.

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, row_33 said:

I thought the CIA funded Arts and Culture and all kinds of public things since WW2, explains Jackson Pollock and other things that HAD to be funded 100% by covert operations.

 

It was a good project, showed that America actually had something in intellectual work to compare to Europe and the USSR.

 

 

 

Although their greatest work was in food preparation...

Posted
4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

I thought the CIA funded Arts and Culture and all kinds of public things since WW2, explains Jackson Pollock and other things that HAD to be funded 100% by covert operations.

 

It was a good project, showed that America actually had something in intellectual work to compare to Europe and the USSR.

 

 

 

CIA has its hands in a lot of Hollywood money and studios - though it's largely through contractors like Rand. The WGA gives writers contact information at Langley (and other various government agencies) to reach out with research questions for free. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

CIA has its hands in a lot of Hollywood money and studios - though it's largely through contractors like Rand. The WGA gives writers contact information at Langley (and other various government agencies) to reach out with research questions for free. 

 

No..... it funded art careers, major magazines, symphonies, composers, writers, TV news,  anything to show that Capitalism could compete with Communism in the Arts...

 

Bobby Fischer was the first to whip the Commies at their own game... a price highly paid.

 

 

So I am content that the CIA and coverts funded American culture.  We sure could use some more of this....

 

 

Posted
Just now, row_33 said:

 

No..... it funded art careers, major magazines, symphonies, composers, writers, TV news,  anything to show that Capitalism could compete with Communism in the Arts...

 

Bobby Fischer was the first to whip the Commies at their own game... a price highly paid.

 

 

 

It did that too. But that wasn't all the agency was doing in Tinseltown. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It did that too. But that wasn't all the agency was doing in Tinseltown. 

 

Fair enough, Tinseltown isn't a niche interest for me though...

 

 

Except for the composers and writers that were given protection in Los Angeles from WW2 atrocities, thank goodness.

 

 

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The only people protected from their social life are the landed gentry of great fortune.  They make sure that their situations are well taken care of.

 

The noveau riche like Weinstein and Lauer and others are very gauche in dealing with the power that their $$$ and job status afford them, and nobody is there to back them up when it explodes on them.

 

 

Posted
5 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

No..... it funded art careers, major magazines, symphonies, composers, writers, TV news,  anything to show that Capitalism could compete with Communism in the Arts...

 

Bobby Fischer was the first to whip the Commies at their own game... a price highly paid.

 

 

So I am content that the CIA and coverts funded American culture.  We sure could use some more of this....

 

 

And the Rooskies "knew" for certain that Spassky's poor play was the result of the agency's intervention. :ph34r:

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Food for thought:

Is this string of public outings and the utter detonation of major media figures all in a row coincidence?

Is it just the inevitable result of a viral #MeToo campaign? 

 

... Or are we seeing a deliberate take down of a network?

 

"In 1977, Carl Bernstein published an exposé of a CIA program known as Operation Mockingbird, a covert program involving, according to Bernstein, “more than 400 American journalists who in the past 25 years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency.” Bernstein found that in “many instances” CIA documents revealed that “journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations.”

 

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/why-are-the-media-taking-the-cias-hacking-claims-at-face-value/

 

Face it. The only CIA involvement that Lauer had was delivering cocaine that he carried in pouches in his butt to the rhythmic gymnasts and water polo teams in Rio. :ph34r:

Posted

Back in 1977, Carl was convinced, along with most of the media and the Dems, that the USSR were the goods guys and the US was the most evil thing ever to exist on the planet.

 

 

Posted
7 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Although their greatest work was in food preparation...

 

On further reflection, it’s seeming better...

 

Posted
10 hours ago, row_33 said:

So NBC ignored complaints about Lauer for years? Sue NBC right out of existence.

 

 

 

Worse than that...Lauer's remote push-bitton lock on his desk doesn't get installed without facilities involved.

 

So NBC didn't just ignore complaints.  They facilitated him.

Posted
1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

Worse than that...Lauer's remote push-bitton lock on his desk doesn't get installed without facilities involved.

 

So NBC didn't just ignore complaints.  They facilitated him.

I am not following this at all but he really had a push button lock like that?

 

Jesus.  These dudes are monsters. 

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