What do the Bills do to fix this offense?

[reddogblitz]

The reddogblitz plan to fix the offense:

 

1. Dust off the Greg Roman playbook and put in last year's run plays.

 

2. Bring back a heavy dose of read option.

 

3. Activate Rielly and make Zay inactive for a few games. Might send him a message to clean up his act.

 

4. Put in some trick plays.

 

5. Throw at least 5 bombs per game. Zay and K Clay have both been open long but unable to catch the football. Even if no one catches any, you'll likely get at least 1 PI and get the D to back off a little.

 

6. First play after a turnover in enemy territory, go for the EZ.

 

7. Activate Barnyard and throw more passes to RBs. Put both him and McCoy in backfield at the same time.

 

8. EVERYBODY play better.

 

Firing Rico and putting in Nasty Nate are pipe dreams.

 

I suspect Rico will be back next year unless he quits. Continuity.

 

If we suck again next year, Sean might fire Rico to keep his job.

Edited October 13, 2017 by reddogblitz

[PolishDave]

Best way to fix Offense: Draft a QB next year and then wait a while as he matures and develops into a player who can consistently produce points in the NFL.

We don't have a QB who can do that now.

 

So you are also in the club that says "throw the towel in on this season right now"?

The reddogblitz plan to fix the offense:

 

1. Dust off the Greg Roman playbook and put in last year's run plays.

 

2. Bring back a heavy dose of read option.

 

3. Activate Rielly and make Zay inactive for a few games. Might send him a message to clean up his act.

 

4. Put in some trick plays.

 

5. Throw at least 5 bombs per game. Zay and K Clay have both been open long but unable to catch the football. Even if no one catches any, you'll likely get at least 1 PI and get the D to back off a little.

 

6. First play after a turnover in enemy territory, go for the EZ.

 

7. Activate Barnyard and throw more passes to RBs. Put both him and McCoy in backfield at the same time.

 

Firing Rico and putting in Nasty Nate are pipe dreams.

 

I suspect Rico will get back next year unless he quits. Continuity.

 

If we suck again next year, Sean might fire him to keep his job.

 

Good points.

 

Disagree on number 3 though if your reason is to punish Jones. He isn't failing for lack of effort. He is just failing. I don't think that is how you fix that. You fix him by throwing him a million passes in practice and by throwing him easy passes on short routes early in the next game.

[hondo in seattle]

They're not going to trade a high draft pick for a receiver, so scratch that.

 

They're not going to fire Dennison mid-season, so scratch that.

 

They're just going to have to ride with what they have and evaluate after the season.

 

I agree.

 

Dennison is early in his tenure with the Bills so I hope he can adjust some things and get things going.

 

But "hope" and "expect" are two very different words.

The reddogblitz plan to fix the offense:

 

1. Dust off the Greg Roman playbook and put in last year's run plays.

 

2. Bring back a heavy dose of read option.

 

3. Activate Rielly and make Zay inactive for a few games. Might send him a message to clean up his act.

 

4. Put in some trick plays.

 

5. Throw at least 5 bombs per game. Zay and K Clay have both been open long but unable to catch the football. Even if no one catches any, you'll likely get at least 1 PI and get the D to back off a little.

 

6. First play after a turnover in enemy territory, go for the EZ.

 

7. Activate Barnyard and throw more passes to RBs. Put both him and McCoy in backfield at the same time.

 

8. EVERYBODY play better.

 

Firing Rico and putting in Nasty Nate are pipe dreams.

 

I suspect Rico will be back next year unless he quits. Continuity.

 

If we suck again next year, Sean might fire Rico to keep his job.

 

When I talked about Rico making adjustments, #1 was top of mind.

[reddogblitz]

So you are also in the club that says "throw the towel in on this season right now"?

 

Good points.

 

Disagree on number 3 though if your reason is to punish Jones. He isn't failing for lack of effort. He is just failing. I don't think that is how you fix that. You fix him by throwing him a million passes in practice and by throwing him easy passes on short routes early in the next game.

I don't want to punish him. I just want to light a fire under his A$$. It's been 5 weeks of he'll get over it. He's hurting us and costing us games.

 

How much easier of a pass can he get than the one he tipped to Holmes or the 3rd down drive killing bomb vs Falcons?

 

I just have to question keeping sending him out there and babying him. It's the bigs. If you don't produce, you get replaced. Ask EJ.

 

Not saying he'll never be good. I'm just saying a little dog house duty might do some good.

[PolishDave]

I don't want to punish him. I just want to light a fire under his A$$. It's been 5 weeks of he'll get over it. He's hurting us and costing us games.

 

How much easier of a pass can he get than the one he tipped to Holmes or the 3rd down drive killing bomb vs Falcons?

 

I just have to question keeping sending him out there and babying him. It's the bigs. If you don't produce, you get replaced. Ask EJ.

 

Not saying he'll never be good. I'm just saying a little dog house duty might do some good.

 

Your intentions are in the right place, I just don't agree with the methods.

 

I would think (I am not a shrink) benching him for a number of games at this point could create a major problem for him going forward if you intend to keep him on the team for years.

 

Imagine he starts next year and in week 6 he has a couple of bad drops - now he starts thinking he is going to get benched again - kicking himself while he is down and the problem spirals again.

 

A better approach is to help him work through it and keep telling him you believe in him and that he will be great in this league. Throw him easy passes to start the game if you can fit them in.

 

If he doesn't fix it, at some point I guess you have to bench him. I just don't think we are there yet. Not for a rookie player that you are relying on to upgrade your receiving corps.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

Some of you guys are like a broken record that just keeps repeating the same thing over and over and over and over.....

 

How and where are you going to get a QB this year? Wasn't the premise of the thread to discuss how to fix the offense this year so the season doesn't go down the tubes?

I answered the OP. I didnt give al timeline.

[oldmanfan]

Block better. Whether schemes or individual effort. Starts upfront. The line plays better, the offense performs better.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

I agree.

 

Dennison is early in his tenure with the Bills so I hope he can adjust some things and get things going.

 

But "hope" and "expect" are two very different words.

 

When I talked about Rico making adjustments, #1 was top of mind.

 

 

I don't think he's the type of OC willing to adjust to a players strength and rather the player adjust to his scheme/plays. which I haven't been impressed with. it did not work with the ryan boys who ruined a top 5 defense by forcing his scheme on players, just a cluster !@#$ of a defensive unit. is dennison too hell bent, headstrong to adjust? is he going to pull a ryan brothers? if he didn't make them in the first 5, does he do it during the bye? we'll soon find out?

 

just a damn shame the defense is playing lights out and the offense has declined. yes injuries, yes some lies on taylors shoulders but it does on the OC as well.

 

 

I'd like to see him replaced after the season if the offense continues to struggle.

[Marty McFly]

LMAO

 

You sure have a way with words.

 

 

As the original post was asking what the Bills could do this year to try to fix this offense now, here is what I would suggest.

 

1) Take the same advice Lynn got from Bill Parcells last year - Tear half the plays out of the playbook - especially the most complicated ones that require everyone to be on the same page and require the most precise timing.

 

2) Get the starting QB more involved in choosing which plays to run/leave in the playbook - based on his opinion of whether he thinks the offense is likely to execute it

 

3) Get the starting running back more involved in choosing which running plays to leave in the playbook - based on his opinion of whether he thinks the offense is likely to execute it

 

4) Add a handful of ridiculously basic/simple running plays that every player on that team has been running since high school - but run them out of the shotgun instead of under center.

 

5) Change the focus of the offense back to trying to outplay the other player physically rather than trying to out-scheme or outsmart the opponent.

 

6) Call a lot more QB draws and read options.

 

7) Make an effort to try to stretch the field once or more on every series (more often on first down) even if those plays are not consistently resulting in big completions or touchdowns.

 

Way with words? You have no idea how right you are brother.

 

 

Agree with all your suggestions. I hope they listen to you.

[Scott7975]

Taylor has to get the ball out quicker. The Bills don't have a bunch of speedsters on this team. Their differentiating factor is size. Jones, Matthews and Holmes are 6-2, 6-3 and 6-5 respectively. Clay and O'Leary are 6-3. Taylor should be throwing his receivers open in lieu of waiting for plays to develop like he does. In his 34 starts with the Bills, there were only 3 weeks where he didn't wait the LONGEST on average from snap to throw. That is a ridiculous statistic.

Yes. Its so ridiculous that he takes 0.2 seconds longer to throw the ball than Brady or Rodgers. Watson who is the new NFL darling is last in the league taking 0.3 seconds longer than Tyrod.

Edited October 14, 2017 by Scott7975

[ALF]

If the OL , Taylor and McCoy speak up after this season if this scheme is not working for them that would at least get Castillo fired.

[machine gun kelly]

Personally...if they can find a way to stabilize the OL that would go a long way toward fixing this......

 

Glenn at RT and Dawkins at RT where they belong

Wow two RT's. just kidding John, I know you meant Glenn at LT. The problem is. He's. had a foot problem for a long time. I don't know if a bye week will fix it.

 

I hope you're right as a healthy Glenn would go a long way to help our run game, which then opens up the passing game. We have to hope Mathews, and Gaines will come back after the bye.

[8-8 Forever?]

go back to last year's blocking scheme

makes changes is what the bye week if for, so lets see what Rico rolls out week 7. may be more of the same with healthier players , may be some adds from the ole playbook. this is where coaches make their money. thank goodness the bye came early this year. things could have gone in the crapper if the bye was week 12 or similar.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Wow two RT's. just kidding John, I know you meant Glenn at LT. The problem is. He's. had a foot problem for a long time. I don't know if a bye week will fix it.

 

I hope you're right as a healthy Glenn would go a long way to help our run game, which then opens up the passing game. We have to hope Mathews, and Gaines will come back after the bye.

 

Bills.com's Chris Brown suggests LT Cordy Glenn isn't guaranteed to keep his starting role.

 

Glenn returned from his two-game absence last week, but didn't start. Benching him would be another questionable move from a regime that's traded away Sammy Watkins and reduced Marcell Dareus to a part-time role. Glenn is making $12M annually and clearly Buffalo's best tackle. It's possible the Bills keep rookie Dion Dawkins at left tackle coming out of their Week 6 bye, with Glenn moving to the right side.

Source: buffalobills.com

Oct 13 - 7:17 PM

[ALF]

Worth a try Glenn at RT , see if it works.

[Webster Guy]

1. Let's not panic.

2. Put Groy in at RT or bring Mudge in from PS. Dawkins or Glenn still at LT.

3. Promote Reilly up to WR

4. Replace Tolbert with Banyard

5. Tell TT to throw quicker. Can not stand in the pocket.

This is the way. except i see Groy at RG, Dawkins at RT, Glenn over at LT where he belongs.

 

How is this not our best 5?

[frostbitmic]

8 offensive linemen with Tyrod, McCoy and Demarco in the backfield.

 

Run the wishbone.

[billsredneck1]

i still can't figure out what the fascination is with this staff and tolbert. i just want to see what banyard can do.

i know right? seems like they think tolbert is blount and he ain't. they need to switch things up a bit. i sure wish they'd bring reilly up. it would be interesting to see what they are going to do for practice/gameplanning this next week.

[billsredneck1]

Do what works. Forget the rest. We have done to the offense what Rex did to the defense.

and that is just mind boggling....and maddening

[Bangarang]

Yes. Its so ridiculous that he takes 0.2 seconds longer to throw the ball than Brady or Rodgers. Watson who is the new NFL darling is last in the league taking 0.3 seconds longer than Tyrod.

So youre saying Tyrod doesnt need to get the ball out quicker?