NoSaint Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Oh god no, I've been saying all year we don't have any serious deep threats. I get some folks mixed up.... I got into it with someone that was hung up on 40 times as proof we would still stretch the field
BringBackOrton Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Wow imagine if we had a rookie QB with multiple 5 TD games. I think we'd already be chanting Super Bowl. But, Watson threw a couple picks in college and doesn't have ball velocity!
Billznut Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 He's got the same number of rings as Marv as well...Marv is a hall of famer and Id imagine Andy will be too. Not sure what point youre trying to make. They are proven great coaches with great records. Nope no Super Bowls. Which is why I wouldnt rank them amongst the greatest. Belichick, Noll, Landry, Walsh, Shula, Lombardi all better. Feel better now?? We should all come back in the year 2100 to see if the Bills are any good with useful players. True. I should have said so far this century. We have sucked. Some sadly are ok with it. Im not. Hopefully things improve soon. Once we have a qb hopefully things will.
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Feel better now?? Lol. I'm not the one that's arguing. Reid will likely do Reid-like things in the playoffs again this year. Making the regular season yet another exercise in futility.
Billznut Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Lol. I'm not the one that's arguing. Reid will likely do Reid-like things in the playoffs again this year. Making the regular season yet another exercise in futility. No? Not arguing? You keep repeating yourself and responding. I dont give a !@#$ about Reid or any other coach. Just want the Bills to get their **** straight. Seems too much to ask of them.
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 I dont give a !@#$ about Reid or any other coach. . "For some reason he was always blasted on here. Not sure why." Asked and answered...
HappyDays Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Back on Carson Wentz, look at this play from the Eagles game today: https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/917105275986784256 The Bills don't have any receiver that could make a play like that. Jordan Matthews was heading into this season as the Eagles #4. He became our #1 and he wasn't even playing today. To give some perspective on how far behind we are on offensive talent this season and today in particular. Edited October 9, 2017 by HappyDays
BringBackOrton Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Back on Carson Wentz, look at this play from the Eagles game today: https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/917105275986784256 The Bills don't have any receiver that could make a play like that. Jordan Matthews was heading into this season as the Eagles #4. He was our #1 and he wasn't even playing today. To give some perspective on how far behind we are on offensive talent this season and today in particular. Matthews was his #1 last year. When some people still knew Wentz was the truth. Agoholor also has been crappy since being drafted. Maybe he's turning it around because Wentz is better. Edited October 9, 2017 by jmc12290
HappyDays Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Matthews was his #1 last year. When some people still knew Wentz was the truth. And last year Wentz sucked! You're proving my point for me. Edited October 9, 2017 by HappyDays
BringBackOrton Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 And last year Wentz sucked! You're proving my point for me. He didn't "suck." You just don't know what you're talking about.
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 He didn't "suck." You just don't know what you're talking about. Philly was 24th in passing yardage. Wentz had 16 TDs, 14 INTs, He was 18th in passing yards, 26th in QBR. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/passing.htm Suck lite, perhaps....
HappyDays Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) He didn't "suck." You just don't know what you're talking about.Passer rating: 25thYPA: 28th YPG: 20th TD%: 30th INT%: 18th ANY/A: 27th DVOA: 27th QBR: 26th PFF grades: 20th Let me guess, your counterargument is the "eye test." Edited October 9, 2017 by HappyDays
BringBackOrton Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Philly was 24th in passing yardage. Wentz had 16 TDs, 14 INTs, He was 18th in passing yards, 26th in QBR. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/passing.htm Suck lite, perhaps.... Passer rating: 25th YPA: 28th YPG: 20th TD%: 30th INT%: 18th ANY/A: 17th DVOA: 27th QBR: 26th PFF grades: 20th Let me guess, your counterargument is the "eye test." Wentz started out as a rookie with a firm grasp on the mental aspects of QBing in the NFL. Not only was he able to master his team's offense, he was able to go through his progressions, look off the S and MLB, change plays at the line, etc. Was he perfect? No. While keeping up with the speed of the game, over the course of the season, a combination of sloppy mechanics returning and other teams getting a better grasp on him slowed down his really great start. He still demonstrated tremendous poise and mastery of the mental aspects of playing QB in the NFL. This offseason, he's really improved his throwing motion, and his long wind-up Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about. Which is why you're surprised you're so wrong about QB's over and over and over again. (not you Lurker). Edited October 9, 2017 by jmc12290
GunnerBill Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 I think the logic is Wentz sucked as a rookie because of numbers so Happy Days doesn't care what your eyes told you. Deshaun Watson sucks despite putting up numbers through 4 games because Happy Days' eyes tell him so.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 The Chiefs are looking scary good.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Wentz started out as a rookie with a firm grasp on the mental aspects of QBing in the NFL. Not only was he able to master his team's offense, he was able to go through his progressions, look off the S and MLB, change plays at the line, etc. Was he perfect? No. While keeping up with the speed of the game, over the course of the season, a combination of sloppy mechanics returning and other teams getting a better grasp on him slowed down his really great start. He still demonstrated tremendous poise and mastery of the mental aspects of playing QB in the NFL. This offseason, he's really improved his throwing motion, and his long wind-up Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about. Which is why you're surprised you're so wrong about QB's over and over and over again. (not you Lurker). Better yet, how's he looking THIS year? Oh, that's right. 300+ 4TD this past week, and i think he's got another 300 yarder this year. But hey. DVOA. I think the logic is Wentz sucked as a rookie because of numbers so Happy Days doesn't care what your eyes told you. Deshaun Watson sucks despite putting up numbers through 4 games because Happy Days' eyes tell him so. DVOA. All about that DVOA.
BringBackOrton Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 I think the logic is Wentz sucked as a rookie because of numbers so Happy Days doesn't care what your eyes told you. Deshaun Watson sucks despite putting up numbers through 4 games because Happy Days' eyes tell him so. My favorite part is that he's praising Agohlor as a "weapon" when he's been basically a first round bust at WR. Where oh where are we gonna get a WR to put up 241 yards and 2 TD's in a season?
GunnerBill Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 My favorite part is that he's praising Agohlor as a "weapon" when he's been basically a first round bust at WR. Where oh where are we gonna get a WR to put up 241 yards and 2 TD's in a season? And has I believe the highest drop % of receivers since he entered the league.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 The Chiefs are looking scary good. ....looks like the wisdom of the former OBD gang was correct when they decided to pass on interviewing UFA Smith who they termed a "lateral move from Fitzpatrick (COUGH)"...
BringBackOrton Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 And has I believe the highest drop % of receivers since he entered the league. But the eye test!
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