SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) The Bills never led by more than one, and trailed by 10 at one point. You're adding very specific perspective and ignoring the fact that he did almost everything that he "isn't" capable of. - 4th Quarter Comeback - Road division game - No Sammy or Shady - Won without a dominant run game Just stop. Your selective memory is bad. Move on to another topic or a different point. Lets be clear ..... All stats are subjective to a specific perspective A tie isn't a comeback when you had the lead for most of the game. "No Sammy" is moot at this point because the Bills have the same record as last season with Sammy as w/o. in addition Sammy had been "forgotten" in a number of games when the Bills have had leads - KC in 15 and Oak in 16 With that said. I'll move on. Edited October 19, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 It was never tied, except when the game started at 0-0. You're thinking of Houston. A game I hadn't even mentioned until now. And stats are not subjective. How people present them is, however.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) The game was in Tennessee, not Buffalo. It's a 4th quarter comeback, on the road, with no Sammy or Shady, and with Boobie Dixon, Boom Herron, and Cierre Wood as your RBs. It was ugly, but there is no denying he put the team on his back that day. He also played hurt... What about Miami last year? I know we inevitably lost... but 330 yards passing 60 more on the ground with 3 TDs. Down 28-14 at one point in the 3rd quarter, and down 28-24 with 4 minutes left in the game and the ball on the 11. Drove down and scored a TD. Then in OT drove down for a FG, which carpenter missed (dubious playcall with that terrible reggie bush play). Then MORE dubious playcalling when we punted on 4th and 2 from the dolphins 40 with like 4 minutes left in overtime. We had 600 yards of offense and you can't trust them to get 2? I'm not going to dig into our playoff odds there at that moment, but it was pretty much punting away the season. Either way - that looks a lot like a 4th quarter comeback. Edited October 19, 2017 by dneveu
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 ummm....wtf? did SDS sell out o the Buffalo News? WHAT IS GOING ON?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 It was never tied, except when the game started at 0-0. You're thinking of Houston. A game I hadn't even mentioned until now. And stats are not subjective. How people present them is, however. Yes, I was talking about Houston. Not Tennessee. Both were listed as a comeback. It was never tied, except when the game started at 0-0. You're thinking of Houston. A game I hadn't even mentioned until now. And stats are not subjective. How people present them is, however. yes, again pardon my poor syntax. (seems to be my word of the day)
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 Yes, I was talking about Houston. Not Tennessee. Both were listed as a comeback. yes, again pardon my poor syntax. (seems to be my word of the day) No, they weren't. They were listed as "late 4th qtr winning drives"
transplantbillsfan Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 Lets stop right there for a second and reflect on what was if you don't mind. The Titans were coming into the Buffalo game after their BYE and a 1-2 record and one of those was a loss to the Browns. The Titans were a 3 Win team in 2015 and we managed to win by 1 point 14-13. Yes, because of TT's heroics. It never should have been that close. Texans? The Bills were up 21 - 13 at the half, neither team scored in the 3rd QTR. The game was tied early in the 4th. All Buffalo needed was a FG to win. A TIE is not a comeback. 4 th 9:12 Texans DeAndre Hopkins 19 yard pass from Brian Hoyer (Jonathan Grimes run) 21 21 1:53 Bills Charles Clay 40 yard pass from Tyrod Taylor 21 27 0:33 Bills Dan Carpenter 36 yard field goal 21 30 Looks like the Defense stopped them and the Bills got the additional FG from it. Oh what a buncha horse manure. I absolutely loathe this type of logic when it's coming from someone who rejects similar logic that just doesn't fit his narrative. Shady, what you're bring up here are situational circumstances that favored Taylor in these two games as proof that what Taylor did was purely luck on some level and insinuating that Taylor needs a ton of luck to accomplish this. Yet, time and time and time again you dismiss the situational circumstances that worked in opposition to Taylor in terms of bringing his team back. Like the Miami game to end last year that your pal you claim to ignore but don't constantly brings up. Or the Seattle game last year with the ref screwing us on the FG to end the half or screwing us out of a PI to end the game. Or the refs screwing up an obvious 1st down catch by Hogan in the KC game last year that Rex further screwed up by not challenging the call. Or Zay Jones not being able to catch the damn football. Or 2 TDs that would have at least tied the game against the Giants last year called back on at least questionable, if not phantom penalties. Or... Yet, those situational circumstances are taboo to discuss. But the ones that allowed Taylor to mount those 2 comebacks or GWDs must be scrutinized. Spectacular hypocrisy.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 I thought you were ignoring me Huh? When did I ever say I would ignore you? You're thinking of the advice that you constantly give that you don't follow yourself with Jm. I'm an adult. I can carry on conversations with people I disagree with. Was this post your way of ignoring addressing the hypocrisy I brought up?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 So, now Im a child? 👌 No, they weren't. They were listed as "late 4th qtr winning drives"Ok. 3 comebacks / 4 game winning drives. In 2.3 seasons. 😁
Billsmovinup Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 People will gripe(and justifiably so) until Tyrod does what David Carr did last night which was basically save Oaklands season with his arm on the last drive of the game. I like Tyrod. Plays smart. Makes a couple big plays a game. Doesnt turn the ball over but if he wants to be the guy he has to do what carr did once in a while. Its the difference between 9-7 and 11-5 or 12-4. Its really that simple. Dont think you have to drastically be on one side or the other to acknowledge that.
GunnerBill Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 People will gripe(and justifiably so) until Tyrod does what David Carr did last night which was basically save Oaklands season with his arm on the last drive of the game. I like Tyrod. Plays smart. Makes a couple big plays a game. Doesnt turn the ball over but if he wants to be the guy he has to do what carr did once in a while. Its the difference between 9-7 and 11-5 or 12-4. Its really that simple. Dont think you have to drastically be on one side or the other to acknowledge that. Correct. He had the ball to do it against Carolina. He had to ball to do it against the Bengals. Couldn't get it done. Not all on him... that is true. But eventually he has to make it happen despite the circumstance.
Dr. Who Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 People will gripe(and justifiably so) until Tyrod does what David Carr did last night which was basically save Oaklands season with his arm on the last drive of the game. I like Tyrod. Plays smart. Makes a couple big plays a game. Doesnt turn the ball over but if he wants to be the guy he has to do what carr did once in a while. Its the difference between 9-7 and 11-5 or 12-4. Its really that simple. Dont think you have to drastically be on one side or the other to acknowledge that. Well stated. That's what a true franchise qb does and if you want long-term success and a real chance to win super bowls, you need one.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 So, now Im a child? 👌 Still avoiding the point, eh?
LABILLBACKER Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) This is what 17 years of mediocrity does to a fanbase. You settle for a qb who's sorta decent but everyone knows won't ever lead you to a SB. The next step is to justify his play by exemplifying his positives and pretending his flaws don't factor. I can't wait to politely say goodbye to Tyrod and draft Mason Rudolph. And while I sleep have ee all come to agreement on Tyrod's 1 come from behind late 4th qtr winning td. Edited October 21, 2017 by LABILLBACKER
Real McClappy Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 This is what 17 years of mediocrity does to a fanbase. You settle for a qb who's sorta decent but everyone knows won't ever lead you to a SB. The next step is to justify his play by exemplifying his positives and pretending his flaws don't factor. I can't wait to politely say goodbye to Tyrod and draft Mason Rudolph. And while I sleep have ee all come to agreement on Tyrod's 1 come from behind late 4th qtr winning td. Well said. Thank you
26CornerBlitz Posted October 25, 2017 Author Posted October 25, 2017 QB rankings: Wentz hits No. 3; Goff out of top 15 This is the Quarterback Index. The QBs are ranked based on 2017 play only. The next ranking of all 32 starters comes after Week 8.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 QB rankings: Wentz hits No. 3; Goff out of top 15 b..... bu.... but we've been told he's a below average QB...? He must be... I mean, afterall... YARDS!!!!
HappyDays Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 That describes Tyrod perfectly. He is not in the top tier of NFL QBs, we all know that. But he fits in with a bunch of other guys just outside the top tier and its hard to separate them because they all have different skill sets and completely different offenses built around them.
Stank_Nasty Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 That describes Tyrod perfectly. He is not in the top tier of NFL QBs, we all know that. But he fits in with a bunch of other guys just outside the top tier and its hard to separate them because they all have different skill sets and completely different offenses built around them. i was just gonna say this... its 100% accurate... bout 6 or 7 real superstars at the position and then on any given sunday the next 10 guys are basically interchangeable based on opponent, supporting cast and injuries. taylor is in that jumble. for now they try and surround him with some defense and run game, stay competitive and still go about finding the replacement that wont get lost in that interchangeable jumble in order to someday be consistent contenders.
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