transplantbillsfan Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Look at everyone doubling down. Strange that this is happening after two victories over two of the best teams in the NFL where Taylor played well and made some downright spectacular throws. Benoit's comments on the whole team, to me, look like he's just glazing over the games at best. He's doubling down. Isn't that obvious? If he weren't, he would have at least noted the progress Taylor has clearly made in aspects of his game that Benoit has criticized for the last 2 years. Through four games Taylor is noticeably better at going through his progressions and throwing over the middle. But no mention of that from Benoit. And the leeches are out in full force sucking on those words as though their lives depended on it. If Taylor averages just 200 yards the rest of the season, but every one of those games is similar to the last two and the Jets game to start the season and this team goes, say 11-5 and wins a playoff game, I think the leeches here are going to be disappointed in what McDermott does not do in the 1st round of the draft next year. Maybe Benoit should go back and rewatch the film focusing on our secondary and pass rush, which he didn't seem to evaluate very well. Maybe he was just blinded by the combination of his dislike for Taylor with his efficiency and our team success so he had to scramble for some qualifiers to maintain his credibility.
Scott7975 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 right click on gif. copy image address. click on image to the right of link on the tool bar. paste image address in URL. Thanks, but I think what I am trying to embed I cant. I was trying to post small video clips from twitter. I posted the links instead.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 right click on gif. copy image address. click on image to the right of link on the tool bar. paste image address in URL. Is that Tyrod Taylor making that throw? Can't be. Andy Benoit says he's not a progression passer and that he doesn't have vision and the guy in that clip clearly goes through his progressions while standing in the pocket and finds a guy for a TD. That can't be Tyrod!!! It can't be!!!!
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Thanks, but I think what I am trying to embed I cant. I was trying to post small video clips from twitter. I posted the links instead. yeah, didn't see your links. twitter thing.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Yes but at least he took chances and was capable of regular 300+ yard games. Taylor's numbers have always been misleading because he rarely throws the ball more than 10 yards, although last week in Atlanta certainly give him credit for finding Clay downfield a few times. Oh, so you're just a troll who's never ever watched Taylor play, apparently
xRUSHx Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Is that Tyrod Taylor making that throw? Can't be. Andy Benoit says he's not a progression passer and that he doesn't have vision and the guy in that clip clearly goes through his progressions while standing in the pocket and finds a guy for a TD. That can't be Tyrod!!! It can't be!!!! Have to admit that's a dam good throw but Fitz also had some good throws.Tyrod has a big hill to climb to prove himself to many I wish him luck. Go Bills Edited October 7, 2017 by xRUSHx
yungmack Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 It is accurate no doubt. However, we are winning right now and I'm very content with it. I still would like the Bills to draft what they think is a franchise QB in next year or sign Cousins. It is NOT accurate.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Is that Tyrod Taylor making that throw? Can't be. Andy Benoit says he's not a progression passer and that he doesn't have vision and the guy in that clip clearly goes through his progressions while standing in the pocket and finds a guy for a TD. That can't be Tyrod!!! It can't be!!!! he made some nice throws. I'm liking the start of this season and all phases have kept the bills in games with the defense being most impressive and a hell of a kicker. it's about clicking on all phases, getting better week to week. Edited October 7, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973
Real McClappy Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) It is NOT accurate. Your right, it's not accurate at all, you convinced me. The entire statement was accurate of Tyrod's play and I think most pro Tyrod fans can agree with a large majority of that statement. The only problem I see with his statement is how it's worded to make it sound like Tyrod is not winning games or making big plays still with his legs to extend drives at times. Also, lacks saying how important it is not tuning the ball over. All that matters is the end result = W. The combo of STOUT D play and turnover free football by the O is working thus far. I still want a different QB as of today in the future. Can that change if TT is consistent for a entire year? Maybe Edited October 7, 2017 by Real McCoy
Scott7975 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Your right, it's not accurate at all, you convinced me. The entire statement was accurate of Tyrod's play and I think most pro Tyrod fans can agree with a large majority of that statement. The only problem I see with his statement is how it's worded to make it sound like Tyrod is not winning games or making big plays still with his legs to extend drives at times. Also, lacks saying how important it is not tuning the ball over. All that matters is the end result = W. The combo of STOUT D play and turnover free football by the O is working thus far. I still want a different QB as of today in the future. Can that change with consistency out of him? Maybe Its not accurate. It may be accurate some of the time. If you watch these plays and tell me that article is accurate still then I just cant take you seriously anymore... http://twitter.com/t...938974417846273 https://twitter.com/...930132363726848 https://twitter.com/...905499048579077 https://twitter.com/...891326038188037 https://twitter.com/...749115959889920 https://twitter.com/...742662842802176
Real McClappy Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Its not accurate. It may be accurate some of the time. If you watch these plays and tell me that article is accurate still then I just cant take you seriously anymore... http://twitter.com/t...938974417846273 https://twitter.com/...930132363726848 https://twitter.com/...905499048579077 https://twitter.com/...891326038188037 https://twitter.com/...749115959889920 https://twitter.com/...742662842802176 Careless if you take me serious, block me What part of consistency don't you get? I seen the game last week, don't care for you GIFS. It's easy to pull up a highlight reel of the greatest plays a player makes. It's 10X easier showing you the plays he doesn't, I'm not going there as we won as a team. That is all I really give a sh$t about right now. Tyrod still has a ton of work to do. If fans can't see that and just want to praise him Bills GOAT have at it. Just Show Me W's. I love the new direction we are going. I still think we need a QB in the future to get us to another level. Shoot me. Edited October 7, 2017 by Real McCoy
Scott7975 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Careless if you take me serious, block me What part of consistency don't you get? I seen the game last week, don't care for you GIFS. It's easy to pull up a highlight reel of the greatest plays a player makes. It's 10X easier showing you the plays he doesn't, I'm not going there as we won as a team. That is all I really give a sh$t about right now. Tyrod still has a ton of work to do. If fans can't see that and just want to praise him Bills GOAT have at it. Just Show Me W's. I love the new direction we are going. I still think we need a QB in the future to get us to another level. Shoot me. Well there isn't really all that much to show other than highlight reels. He is completing most of his passes if you take away the ones that are out right dropped. You could probably find a couple passes per game that he was bad on. You could find that for all QBs. I don't know how much more consistent he could get up to this point. If you seen the game last week then put your money where your mouth is and easily show me all the plays he didn't make. All 4 of them. I think its pretty funny that when Tyrod has a bad day that people are posting videos in 20 different threads talking about all the wide open receivers he missed. Outside of the Carolina game that hasn't happened. That is pretty telling that he is doing a good job. Edited October 7, 2017 by Scott7975
RochesterLifer Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Stats can be misleading especially when you are a running a very limited offense and not taking a lot of chances. Like I said, I give Taylor credit for not making killer mistakes and running an efficient, ball control type of offense. But let's see what the numbers look like when he has to throw the ball downfield for the Bills to come back and win a game. And if history has shown us anything the last 3 years he's not capable of doing that even with better WR talent around him compared to this year. Or, stats can tell you exactly what you're seeing, when you don't want to see it. He is not Brady or Rodgers. What he is, is a top third quarterback that a good, well coached football team can win with. Combine that with his work ethic, character and leadership and we should be happy to have him.
Alphadawg7 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Bottom line: We shouldn't believe in anyone right now, we are 4 games in. Many times we have started 3-1, 5-2, 6-2, 4-2, etc and still missed the playoffs. This team needs to prove its not fools gold again, and that includes all the players on the field, not just TT. As far as TT goes, that articles feels more of an assessment over his whole career than the TT this year. He has definitely made strides in areas of the weak part of his game, but there is still more work to do before we can really start talking about his future here. Case in point: There is a 100% certainty...100% guarantee...that if the Bills lose this weekend and TT has a marginal game that about 90% of the people who have been starting to warm up to him will immediately turn on him and decide he absolutely has to go. The reality is a LOT of people are going to IMMEDIATELY turn on TT as soon as we lose a game where TT has a so so game or worse. Personally, I think we can and will go 3-1 over our next 4...although I am less confident without Jordan as we are SOOOO bad at WR right now unless someone surprises and STEPS UP (Looking at you ZJ). TT can't do it all alone, we are going to NEED someone at WR to help our QB in running good routes, getting separation, and actually catching the ball when it hits their hands. Edited October 7, 2017 by Alphadawg7
Real McClappy Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Well there isn't really all that much to show other than highlight reels. He is completing most of his passes if you take away the ones that are out right dropped. You could probably find a couple passes per game that he was bad on. You could find that for all QBs. I don't know how much more consistent he could get up to this point. If you seen the game last week then put your money where your mouth is and easily show me all the plays he didn't make. All 4 of them. I think its pretty funny that when Tyrod has a bad day that people are posting videos in 20 different threads talking about all the wide open receivers he missed. Outside of the Carolina game that hasn't happened. That is pretty telling that he is doing a good job. 3 That is how many Offensive TD's we have scored the last 3 games. If you want to call 7 rushes for 12 yards and 12 completions on 20 attempts franchise man last game, have it your way. There is a ton of work our O needs to work on still. I just want to keep on winning with whomever is behind center. I don't have the rose colored glasses on is all. If we want to sustain and become a true contender year in and year out we flat out need more consistency from our O. I hope it gets better but our damn OC is happy with our Offense being in the bottom 10 of the league. Edited October 7, 2017 by Real McCoy
Scott7975 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 3 That is how many Offensive TD's we have scored the last 3 games. If you want to call 7 rushes for 12 yards and 12 completions on 20 attempts franchise man last game, have it your way. There is a ton of work our O needs to work on still. I just want to keep on winning with whomever is behind center. I don't have the rose colored glasses on is all. If we want to sustain and become a true contender year in and year out we flat out need more consistency from our O. I hope it gets better but our damn OC is happy with our Offense being in the bottom 10 of the league. That's fine. All that is fair. I was speaking specifically against an article where the writers says that Taylor doesn't do a bunch of stuff that he clearly has done this year. Multiple reads, standing in pocket and making passes, delivering a throw in a window. He has done all that this year. He also isn't reading one guy and taking off running. I'm sorry but the article is just flat out wrong. Some of it is correct on a pass play or two per game but the way it is written is implying Taylor always takes off running and cant do any of those things. That is just flat out false. Maybe if the coaches would stop trying to sit on a one score lead you might see him consistently do it more. Taylor isn't Brady or Montana. We all get that. But he is far and away underappreciated and underrated. The times Taylor has looked bad is mostly when its been run for -2, run for a couple, 3rd and 9 false start, 3rd and 19 ask Taylor to make a play. Those are the drives that stall. Not many QBs are going to thrive and look good in that situation. Look into the splits man. The coaches aren't letting him do much unless they are behind. They open it up when they are behind and shut it down when they are ahead or tied.... Ahead 25 attempts Ahead 1-8 points 23 attempts Ahead 9-16 points 2 attempts Behind 49 attempts Behind 1-8 points 49 attempts Tied 25 attempts A lot of those ahead and tied attempts are on 3rd down after the run game on 1st and 2nd down went no where. Edited October 7, 2017 by Scott7975
T master Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 In the past it while Rex was here it was the Bills have the scoring power but the D wasn't showing up, but now that the D is showing up & Taylor is taking care of the ball the question is all about TT . Alls the dude does is show up & work his butt off , come game time he's all in & he does his job nine million times better than let's say E J MANUEL but the question still haunts the dude if he is a franchise QB . I think the more comfy he gets in this system & with some more weapons in the WR room he could be a top notch NFL QB ...
SinceThe70s Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Believe what you want but it's the facts. Again, I'm not trashing Taylor. He's been perfectly adequate for the most part this season. My main argument (which I know a lot of other fans, media, etc agree with) is he's not a franchise QB and not capable of leading a team with a poor to average defense. He proved that the last two years. So if the idea in the short term is we are trying to emulate what the Chiefs have done in recent years with Alex Smith and their defense so be it, might be good enough to get to the playoffs but not win games there. That's a pretty lofty standard to set. Hasn't worked out so well for Drew Brees the past few years.
transplantbillsfan Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Careless if you take me serious, block me What part of consistency don't you get? I seen the game last week, don't care for you GIFS. It's easy to pull up a highlight reel of the greatest plays a player makes. It's 10X easier showing you the plays he doesn't, I'm not going there as we won as a team. That is all I really give a sh$t about right now. Tyrod still has a ton of work to do. If fans can't see that and just want to praise him Bills GOAT have at it. Just Show Me W's. I love the new direction we are going. I still think we need a QB in the future to get us to another level. Shoot me. One man's inconsistent is another man's consistent.
Figster Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 Bottom line: We shouldn't believe in anyone right now, we are 4 games in. Many times we have started 3-1, 5-2, 6-2, 4-2, etc and still not missed the playoffs. This team needs to prove its not fools gold again, and that includes all the players on the field, not just TT. As far as TT goes, that articles feels more of an assessment over his whole career than the TT this year. He has definitely made strides in areas of the weak part of his game, but there is still more work to do before we can really start talking about his future here. Case in point: There is a 100% certainty...100% guarantee...that if the Bills lose this weekend and TT has a marginal game that about 90% of the people who have been starting to warm up to him will immediately turn on him and decide he absolutely has to go. The reality is a LOT of people are going to IMMEDIATELY turn on TT as soon as we lose a game where TT has a so so game or worse. Personally, I think we can and will go 3-1 over our next 4...although I am less confident without Jordan as we are SOOOO bad at WR right now unless someone surprises and STEPS UP (Looking at you ZJ). TT can't do it all alone, we are going to NEED someone at WR to help our QB in running good routes, getting separation, and actually catching the ball when it hits their hands. This is a good post.
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