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Digital Disaster: Facebook, Google carry fake news on Las Vegas shooting


After the massacre on the Las Vegas Strip, here’s what people found on Facebook and Google: The shooter was an anti-Trump liberal who liked Rachel Maddow and MoveOn.org, that the F.B.I. had already linked him to the Islamic State, and that mainstream news organizations were suppressing that he had recently converted to Islam.


All of these “gruesome” revelations are “entirely false,” says Kevin Roose in a disturbing column in the New York Times.


"In Google’s case, trolls from 4Chan, a notoriously toxic online message board with a vocal far-right contingent, had spent the night scheming about how to pin the shooting on liberals.


One of their discussion threads, in which they wrongly identified the gunman, was picked up by Google’s 'top stories' module, and spent hours at the top of the site’s search results for that man’s name."


"In Facebook’s case, an official 'safety check’'page for the Las Vegas shooting prominently displayed a post from a site called 'Alt-Right News.' The post incorrectly identified the shooter and described him as a Trump-hating liberal.


In addition, some users saw a story on a 'trending topic' page on Facebook for the shooting that was published by Sputnik, a news agency controlled by the Russian government. The story’s headline claimed, incorrectly, that the F.B.I. had linked the shooter with the 'Daesh terror group.'"



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One thing I hope someone can do is shed light on the video taken from a taxi driver that appears to show someone shooting from (around) the 4th floor. Is there some rational explanation for what this appears to be and debunk any conspiracy theories?

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/was-there-second-shooter-vegas

Check google maps 5510 Haven street to see the vantage point of the video. It took a while to find it. Now the initial video of the car driving around close to the hotel is pretty much useless but I did find the location and its near the entrance just below the shooters position on the 32nd floor.
The real question is if the shots also came from the 4th floor how did they open the window. Looking at the google maps streetview from the S. Las Vegas Blvd on the same sight-line, zoomed in on the 4th floor, it does not appear to have windows that could open.
The video is bull**** conspiracy theory craziness and there are way too many people out there that will buy into it. Its just flashing lights reflecting off the glass.
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One thing I hope someone can do is shed light on the video taken from a taxi driver that appears to show someone shooting from (around) the 4th floor. Is there some rational explanation for what this appears to be and debunk any conspiracy theories?

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/was-there-second-shooter-vegas

 

The answer is "People who think they can do video analysis from YouTube are !@#$s."

 

I've tried some with WWII gun camera footage. Video analysis is really !@#$ing hard.

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One thing I hope someone can do is shed light on the video taken from a taxi driver that appears to show someone shooting from (around) the 4th floor. Is there some rational explanation for what this appears to be and debunk any conspiracy theories?

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/was-there-second-shooter-vegas

It's already on snopes. They believe it was a strobe light in the window. There's another video from 2 hours before the shooting that shows that same flashing light in that same window and a police officer confirms that there is some type of strobe light flashing in a 4th floor window.

 

Plus, like bdutton said, the windows don't open and it wasn't broken out like the shooter's windows on the 32nd floor.

 

 

Edit - here is the link with the video showing that strobe light on the 4th floor hours before the shooting and audio of the police radio talking about that strobe light.

 

http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/

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Plus, like bdutton said, the windows don't open and it wasn't broken out like the shooter's windows on the 32nd floor.

 

It was a targeting laser for the smart bullets the shooter fired!

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It was a targeting laser for the smart bullets the shooter fired!

At night...400+ yards...no tracers (at least none I saw)...'spraying' with what looks to be a minimally modified AR-15...amateur shooter.

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The most terrifying thing is the allegation that 4chan is full of conservative posters. My God so not true.

It's liberal and anarchist primarily. And the rest would just the for the laughs.

 

4chan could overthrow a 3rd world government I'd bet

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At night...400+ yards...no tracers (at least none I saw)...'spraying' with what looks to be a minimally modified AR-15...amateur shooter.

 

That's what they want you to think. The government is hiding the truth, which PROVES it's a conspiracy!

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That's what they want you to think. The government is hiding the truth, which PROVES it's a conspiracy!

10+ suitcases full of ammunition and firearms, staff didn't notice anything suspicious...320'+ above target but somehow using an 8" bipod...it's just doesn't sound right to me.

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10+ suitcases full of ammunition and firearms, staff didn't notice anything suspicious...320'+ above target but somehow using an 8" bipod...it's just doesn't sound right to me.

One thing that makes me very nervous about traveling with my guns... I shoot in competitions around the country and its been normal for me to walk into the hotel lobby with a gun case and check in. Now, I wonder if this will change things.

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10+ suitcases full of ammunition and firearms, staff didn't notice anything suspicious...320'+ above target but somehow using an 8" bipod...it's just doesn't sound right to me.

 

what happens in Vegas.... this may not be unusual there.

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10+ suitcases full of ammunition and firearms, staff didn't notice anything suspicious...320'+ above target but somehow using an 8" bipod...it's just doesn't sound right to me.

 

32 floors, how many rooms, plus casino traffic 24-7 , new staff every 8 hrs. I think you could almost drag a dead body through the hotel without incident.

 

Parking garage is attached, he doesn't even have to go to through the lobby.

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Until such a time that our country's first reaction to tragedy is to help, and not blame, you'll never get away from people posting fake stories.

 

We're a blame first culture. Might as well get used to it.

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32 floors, how many rooms, plus casino traffic 24-7 , new staff every 8 hrs. I think you could almost drag a dead body through the hotel without incident.

 

Parking garage is attached, he doesn't even have to go to through the lobby.

 

was he a whale? they do whatever they want without anybody bothering them

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