BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Now that everyone has 4 games on the books I present to you lovely folks, without (excessive) commentary, my 2017 1st Quarter QB Rankings. Mostly doing this just to document changes throughout the season. Feel free to discuss, question, or turn it into an endless TT debate. The final column is my rating system, and is what the QBs are sorted by, and I have only included QBs that have played in 3 or more games. Conveniently, that number came out to 32. Edited October 3, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 poor Eli good raking and winless. they should bring back that guy so they can threaten to fire him again and again. Its worked before ............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Would you mind explaining the columns you have there? That last column to the right, what formula do you use to come up with that? Are you saying that you think Taylor has had the 23rd best start to 2017? This sure seems to put a lot more weight in volume than efficiency if that's the case. I think you've at least got a put them in the top 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Would you mind explaining the columns you have there? That last column to the right, what formula do you use to come up with that? Are you saying that you think Taylor has had the 23rd best start to 2017? This sure seems to put a lot more weight in volume than efficiency if that's the case. I think you've at least got a put them in the top 15. The last column uses Yards per Touch, TD%, and TO% and is weighted by attempts per game compared to their peers. One explanation for Tyrod being where he is could be the defenses he's faced so far. The Bills have faced the 3rd most difficult schedule so far based on opponent W/L. In 2015 he finished 13, and in 2016 he finished 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) The last column uses Yards per Touch, TD%, and TO% and is weighted by attempts per game compared to their peers. One explanation for Tyrod being where he is could be the defenses he's faced so far. The Bills have faced the 3rd most difficult schedule so far based on opponent W/L. In 2015 he finished 13, and in 2016 he finished 14. So if you're truly going to call this a "QB ranking" don't you think you should factor in teams and defenses played and find a way to put that in the formula similarly to how footballoutsiders does with DYAR and DVOA? Edited October 3, 2017 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 So if you're truly going to call this a "QB ranking" don't you think you should factor in teams and defenses played and find a way to put that in the formula similarly to how footballoutsiders does with DYAR and DVOA? That's your opinion. For now I like my formula. We'll see how the rest of the year plays out. I'll be making an update after week 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Would you mind explaining the columns you have there? That last column to the right, what formula do you use to come up with that? Are you saying that you think Taylor has had the 23rd best start to 2017? This sure seems to put a lot more weight in volume than efficiency if that's the case. I think you've at least got a put them in the top 15. What would you say Taylor is doing that's top 15 in the league, efficiency-wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 That's your opinion. For now I like my formula. We'll see how the rest of the year plays out. I'll be making an update after week 9. Good work Hokie. Flacco is killing me this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 What would you say Taylor is doing that's top 15 in the league, efficiency-wise? TO% and TD/TO Ratio are both top shelf. But for him to pull his rating up he'll need to score more. Good work Hokie. Flacco is killing me this year. Thanks! Yeah, it's been a rough one for him. I do feel slightly emboldened by the fact that rank 31 has already been benched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) TO% and TD/TO Ratio are both top shelf. But for him to pull his rating up he'll need to score more. D Maybe he should ask Dennison and Mc Dermott to take their feet off the brake in the fourth quarter. Edited October 3, 2017 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Maybe he should ask Dennison and Mc Dermott to take their feet off the brake in the fourth quarter. Haha, yeah the 4th Quarter Run, Run, QB Run thing has been a bit of a downer, but it's working so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Case Keenum over Tyrod? Keenum has only played 2 games. 1 was very good and 1 was bad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 What would you say Taylor is doing that's top 15 in the league, efficiency-wise? Completion % (13th), YPA (9th), TD % (14th), INT % (1st), QB rating (8th), QBR (9th). Pretty much every efficiency stat he is in the top 15 it is the volume stats he struggles on. When adjusted for his attempts his numbers look very good. Agree with Hokie too, as we play a couple of softer defenses the volume stats will look much better as well. Case Keenum over Tyrod? Keenum has only played 2 games. 1 was very good and 1 was bad.. Small sample size. I messed around with this a bit and am interested to see where it all ends up. Good work Hokie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Case Keenum over Tyrod? Keenum has only played 2 games. 1 was very good and 1 was bad.. In terms of the rating, he has played in 3 games to Tyrod's 4 and attempted more passes than Tyrod. Keenum is averaging a full yard per touch more than Tyrod, and 1 more touch per game than Tyrod. Keenum also hasn't had a turnover yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 That's your opinion. For now I like my formula. We'll see how the rest of the year plays out. I'll be making an update after week 9. LOLs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 TO% and TD/TO Ratio are both top shelf. But for him to pull his rating up he'll need to score more. Thanks! Yeah, it's been a rough one for him. I do feel slightly emboldened by the fact that rank 31 has already been benched I spent all offseason calling him underrated and this is how he repays me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Now that everyone has 4 games on the books I present to you lovely folks, without (excessive) commentary, my 2017 1st Quarter QB Rankings. Mostly doing this just to document changes throughout the season. Feel free to discuss, question, or turn it into an endless TT debate. The final column is my rating system, and is what the QBs are sorted by, and I have only included QBs that have played in 3 or more games. Conveniently, that number came out to 32. The most interesting qb in your ranking is Jared Goff. He went from a rookie qb who was overwhelmed to someone who is now ranked sixth. (I'm aware this is an early ranking.) He had a taste of playing last year and had an offseason to prepare. He got a good coach who wisely worked to put him in a good position to succeed. What also helped the qb is that the GM did a good job in improving the OL and giving the qb some weapons to work with. What the HC has smartly done is keep things simple and build from the basics for this young qb who was prematurely written off by a lot of people. Edited October 3, 2017 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 The most interesting qb in your ranking is Jared Goff. He went from a rookie qb who was overwhelmed to someone who is now ranked sixth. (I'm aware this is an early ranking.) He had a taste of playing last year and had an offseason to prepare. He got a good coach who wisely worked to put him in a good position to succeed. What also helped the qb is that the GM did a good job in improving the OL and giving the qb some weapons to work with. What the HC has smartly done is keep things simple and build from the basics for this young qb who was prematurely written off by a lot of people. Through his 7 games last year, Goff scored a 43.4 in this system. So yes, clear early improvement indicators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The most interesting qb in your ranking is Jared Goff. He went from a rookie qb who was overwhelmed to someone who is now ranked sixth. (I'm aware this is an early ranking.) He had a taste of playing last year and had an offseason to prepare. He got a good coach who wisely worked to put him in a good position to succeed. What also helped the qb is that the GM did a good job in improving the OL and giving the qb some weapons to work with. What the HC has smartly done is keep things simple and build from the basics for this young qb who was prematurely written off by a lot of people. Seeing this with Wentz as well. They went out and surrounded their young guys with some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The most interesting qb in your ranking is Jared Goff. He went from a rookie qb who was overwhelmed to someone who is now ranked sixth. (I'm aware this is an early ranking.) He had a taste of playing last year and had an offseason to prepare. He got a good coach who wisely worked to put him in a good position to succeed. What also helped the qb is that the GM did a good job in improving the OL and giving the qb some weapons to work with. What the HC has smartly done is keep things simple and build from the basics for this young qb who was prematurely written off by a lot of people. Through his 7 games last year, Goff scored a 43.4 in this system. So yes, clear early improvement indicators. it's still early .... maybe he's got it, maybe it's an oddity. Colts, Skins, 49ers, Boys. Looks like 2-2 to me with a gift wrap. October is here and the Average PPG scored will start to lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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