JM2009 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 It makes chuckle when these guys try hard to point Tyrod into the Rogers/Brady category when if you really look at it those two win games regularly while always in the playoff hunt and make it happen when it counts while Tyrod is padding stats after a negative first half. Wow look at those stats in that loss. SMH Tyrod did ok the first few games better then I expected from him but to lump him into that category with those 2 is the reason we still have some thinking it's everyone else at fault as to why this team isn't a playoff team. The real season starts now, like it or not we will see where this team is going. Again I was surprised at Tyrod but since our D stood on their heads and we had a few lucky breaks we got those two wins not because Tyrod did anything a franchise worthy QB would have done just what a backup QB is trained to do, protect the ball and hope the rest of the team bails you out. After 2 years we know he isn't capable of doing it, that's why many want more because yes the QB is the one that either gets you to the playoffs or ends the playoff run. Some day we will have a offense that teams fear but for now we have to wish the rest of the team plays so well they can cover for our QB that is trained to play as a backup. The Mods really need to look at this type of constant posting. It is obviously agenda driven- lose it's all on TT, win, the rest of the team,not TT.
The Wiz Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 So the Denver game wasn't a real game because the Bills won with TT. Denver is over rated , right? Just like I said yesterday about the Atlanta game-chomping at the bit because we all know the Bills will probably lose this one. newsflash: Most teams would lose in Atlanta, even those with elite QBs. I think his point was more that Brady or Rodgers throwing for under/around 200 is the outlier where it's usually the norm for TT unless it's garbage time. Which wouldn't be an unfair argument because he has padded his numbers when the game was out of reach.
xRUSHx Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 So the Denver game wasn't a real game because the Bills won with TT. Denver is over rated , right? Just like I said yesterday about the Atlanta game-chomping at the bit because we all know the Bills will probably lose this one. newsflash: Most teams would lose in Atlanta, even those with elite QBs. Better chance to win when your not using a backup type QB. When I say backup type QB it's because backups are trained to protect and do very little while wishing on others to play bigger. I never said Denver wasn't a real game. I don't understand how your so one sided and refuse to look at both sides of a coin. Stop being so serious with me and maybe we can start talking in a more civilized manor. So sick of your nasty attitude towards me, I have a opinion like it or not. I don't agree with you but try hard not to be a jerk to you even after your many rude comments. I'm not chomping at any bit, I love the Bills and I hope they prove me wrong this season and that includes Tyrod. I am criticizing him in hopes he gives the team more. Sure this game is more then likely a loss but it could be a win and man I sure hope we get the win. I'm just sick of the everyone else is at fault mentality and it is why I point to the Chan/Fitz days. I have doubts about him and until he proves otherwise I will continue to think he needs to be replaced.
JM2009 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 I think his point was more that Brady or Rodgers throwing for under/around 200 is the outlier where it's usually the norm for TT unless it's garbage time. Which wouldn't be an unfair argument because he has padded his numbers when the game was out of reach. Believe me, if the Bills lose in Atlanta, he'll be on here as quick as quick can be.
xRUSHx Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) The Mods really need to look at this type of constant posting. It is obviously agenda driven- lose it's all on TT, win, the rest of the team,not TT.And here again I try to be nice and you get all nasty, same old JM you don't like a comment and you go full steam into a wall. SMH The only agenda JM is you with your agenda to discredit any poster that you don't like talking Believe me, if the Bills lose in Atlanta, he'll be on here as quick as quick can be.I'm here everyday JM Edited September 29, 2017 by xRUSHx
JM2009 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Better chance to win when your not using a backup type QB. When I say backup type QB it's because backups are trained to protect and do very little while wishing on others to play bigger. I never said Denver wasn't a real game. I don't understand how your so one sided and refuse to look at both sides of a coin. Stop being so serious with me and maybe we can start talking in a more civilized manor. So sick of your nasty attitude towards me, I have a opinion like it or not. I don't agree with you but try hard not to be a jerk to you even after your many rude comments. I'm not chomping at any bit, I love the Bills and I hope they prove me wrong this season and that includes Tyrod. I am criticizing him in hopes he gives the team more. Sure this game is more then likely a loss but it could be a win and man I sure hope we get the win. I'm just sick of the everyone else is at fault mentality and it is why I point to the Chan/Fitz days. I have doubts about him and until he proves otherwise I will continue to think he needs to be replaced. "The real season starts now, like it or not we will see where this team is going. " So the real season hadn't begun already. Denver wasn't enough of a challenge. I bet you picked them to lose that one.
TheFunPolice Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Taylor CAN pass the ball. We've seen it again and again in my opinion. I've even fallen into the trap of thinking "he can't throw. He won't throw" Etc. Then they start calling passes. Suddenly Matthews is open. Clay is open. The ball moves right down the field. Then it's back to run up the middle for 1 yard, run up the middle and lose 2 yards, and get into an obvious 3rd and long passing down that has little chance. But in the Miami game last year, in the Carolina and Denver games this year when we NEEDED to move the pass via the pass guys were open all over the place and Tyrod made plays. MAYBE just MAYBE we don't need to run as much. Why not become a more balanced offense? Our passing game with Taylor is making plays, but the COACHES are holding them back.
xRUSHx Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) "The real season starts now, like it or not we will see where this team is going. " So the real season hadn't begun already. Denver wasn't enough of a challenge. I bet you picked them to lose that one.Why do I bother with you? Ok I'm still trying, why I don't know. Look man I don't hold the same enthusiasm to win vrs the Jezts a team looking to stink. A close loss to Carolina a team with a broken QB or a home game win against a team with a young QB making mistakes. Like I said I'll be more excited when we string some solid wins until then I'm hopeful but not getting my hopes up we will finally get that mircle playoff run out of Tyrod. Got my fingers crossed so much they bleed but sadly I'm just not seeing it like you do. I picked them to win 6 or 7 this season so we just got 2 of them. Edited September 29, 2017 by xRUSHx
JM2009 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Why do I bother with you? Ok I'm still trying, why I don't know. Look man I don't hold the same enthusiasm to win vrs the Jezts a team looking to stink. A close loss to Carolina a team with a broken QB or a home game win against a team with a young QB making mistakes. Like I said I'll be more excited when we string some solid wins until then I'm hopeful but not getting my hopes up we will finally get that mircle playoff run out of Tyrod. Got my fingers crossed so much they bleed but sadly I'm just not seeing it like you do. I picked them to win 6 or 7 this season so we just got 2 of them. This is ridiculous. It really is. No one picked the Bills to beat Denver, who had just blew out Dallas. But it wasn't much of a win now. SMH
Alphadawg7 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Taylor CAN pass the ball. We've seen it again and again in my opinion. I've even fallen into the trap of thinking "he can't throw. He won't throw" Etc. Then they start calling passes. Suddenly Matthews is open. Clay is open. The ball moves right down the field. Then it's back to run up the middle for 1 yard, run up the middle and lose 2 yards, and get into an obvious 3rd and long passing down that has little chance. But in the Miami game last year, in the Carolina and Denver games this year when we NEEDED to move the pass via the pass guys were open all over the place and Tyrod made plays. MAYBE just MAYBE we don't need to run as much. Why not become a more balanced offense? Our passing game with Taylor is making plays, but the COACHES are holding them back. Way too much logic and reason in this very good post, shame on you for saying something smart
xRUSHx Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 This is ridiculous. It really is. No one picked the Bills to beat Denver, who had just blew out Dallas. But it wasn't much of a win now. SMH Again I don't hold the same enthusiasm with the win that is all, it's a opinion man like it or not. What is ridiculous is me trying to have a civilized talk with you. I understand why many now have you blocked because I really feel like punching a baby now thank you.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 This is ridiculous. It really is. No one picked the Bills to beat Denver, who had just blew out Dallas. But it wasn't much of a win now. SMH I did! https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196506-broncos-bills-predict-the-score/?view=findpost&p=4547675
JM2009 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Again I don't hold the same enthusiasm with the win that is all, it's a opinion man like it or not. What is ridiculous is me trying to have a civilized talk with you. I understand why many now have you blocked because I really feel like punching a baby now thank you. We all know why you don't have the same enthusiasm. I did! https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196506-broncos-bills-predict-the-score/?view=findpost&p=4547675 I know. I thought they might win too. I was talking mainly about the national guys.
Alphadawg7 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Why do I bother with you? Ok I'm still trying, why I don't know. Look man I don't hold the same enthusiasm to win vrs the Jezts a team looking to stink. A close loss to Carolina a team with a broken QB or a home game win against a team with a young QB making mistakes. Like I said I'll be more excited when we string some solid wins until then I'm hopeful but not getting my hopes up we will finally get that mircle playoff run out of Tyrod. Got my fingers crossed so much they bleed but sadly I'm just not seeing it like you do. I picked them to win 6 or 7 this season so we just got 2 of them. Anyone who doesn't count the Denver game as a "solid" win should really look in the mirror and ask what their real agenda is. They were a top 5 ranked team coming into that game...but because the BILLS beat them you and others want to disregard just how good they were playing and how good of an overall team they really are? People NOT in the know don't even realize that if you project Trevors stats over a full 16 game season last year that he would have had thrown for 4100 yards and 20+ TDs. But he missed 2 full games and most of a third when he got hurt in the first quarter (after starting 5/7 for 68 yards and a TD). Trevor then started this year with 6 TD's over his first 2 games to go with that talented defense. Keep discounting that as NOT a quality win all you want, but you are categorically wrong. In no way does beating one good team mean we are a playoff team, we as a team have a lot to prove. But make no mistake about it, Denver win was a very good win for us and one that most didn't give us a chance at. Edited September 29, 2017 by Alphadawg7
xRUSHx Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Anyone who doesn't count the Denver game as a "solid" win should really look in the mirror and ask what their real agenda is. They were a top 5 ranked team coming into that game...but because the BILLS beat them you and others want to disregard just how good they were playing and how good of an overall team they really are? People NOT in the know don't even realize that if you project Trevors stats over a full 16 game season last year that he would have had thrown for 4100 yards and 20+ TDs. But he missed 2 full games and most of a third when he got hurt in the first quarter (after starting 5/7 for 68 yards and a TD). Trevor then started this year with 6 TD's over his first 2 games to go with that talented defense. Keep discounting that as NOT a quality win all you want, but you are categorically wrong. In no way does beating one good team mean we are a playoff team, we as a team have a lot to prove. But make no mistake about it, Denver win was a very good win for us and one that most didn't give us a chance at. I'm just not enthusiastic about the win. It was a home game and we got some lucky bounces. Sorry man but head examined is a little extreme with the comment in my opinion. Yes it was a win against a real good team but and but. After so many loser seasons I'm just not getting my hopes up. It's my opinion if you don't like it just say it stinks, the name calling and the agenda garbage is a JM tactic. Edited September 29, 2017 by xRUSHx
John from Riverside Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 I'm just not enthusiastic about the win. It was a home game and we got some lucky bounces. Sorry man but head examined is a little extreme with the comment in my opinion. Yes it was a win against a real good team but and but. After so many loser seasons I'm just not getting my hopes up. It's my opinion if you don't like it just say it stinks, the name calling and the agenda garbage is a JM tactic. I didnt realize that we had to justify a NFL win
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 He did net 4 TD's though. I think it's the only reason he's still on the team.
xRUSHx Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 I didnt realize that we had to justify a NFL win Did I ask you or anyone to justify a win for me? Talk about arguing to argue. Again it's my opinion, like it or not. SMH
JM2009 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) I'm just not enthusiastic about the win. It was a home game and we got some lucky bounces. Sorry man but head examined is a little extreme with the comment in my opinion. Yes it was a win against a real good team but and but. After so many loser seasons I'm just not getting my hopes up. It's my opinion if you don't like it just say it stinks, the name calling and the agenda garbage is a JM tactic. This post proves you have an agenda, and others know it too. Best win in years, best Sunday win in years, very happy Sunday, but not for you, and a few others. Like I said, you and others can't wait for the probable loss on Sunday. That's when the real season starts for you, right? Edited September 29, 2017 by JM2009
xRUSHx Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 This post proves you have an agenda, and others know it too. Best win in years, best Sunday win in years, very happy Sunday, but not you, and a few others. Like I said, you and others can't wait for the probable loss on Sunday. That's when the real season starts for you, right?Now after punching the baby it's time to kick the dog. I'm done with you. ignore
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