Heavy Kevi Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Polling data shows that majority of Americans agree that taking a knee during the national anthem is disrespectful and not the time for protest. Every time a player takes a knee it's helping Trump politically. Let that sink in It's over 70% of Americans. Thats why protesters are being heavily booed. And Villanueva has the highest selling jersey right now. Just sayin' The NFL is doing a fine job of killing itself all by itself. Doesn't need any help. Over the top commercialization, out of sight compensation, 22 minutes of action in a 3 hour event, alcohol-soaked stadiums: now its a national protest platform; its all pretty much going in the wrong direction slowly. Well put. If anything, the protests are many viewers "last straw". I didn't get as much publicity, but Trump also complained about what many others complain about.... flags, refs, taking hitting out of the game, etc.... Let's also recognize NFLs "selective" free speech. No to breast cancer awareness, no to 9/11 remembrance, no to supporting slain police, but this is ok. If they were consistent this would not be as big an issue either. Edited September 26, 2017 by Shotgunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's over 70% of Americans. Thats why protesters are being heavily booed. And Villanueva has the highest selling jersey right now. Just sayin' Well put. If anything, the protests are many viewers "last straw". I didn't get as much publicity, but Trump also complained about what many others complain about.... flags, refs, taking hitting out of the game, etc.... If you think this is going to have any long lasting affect on the NFL you are mistaken. All those people burning their tickets and jerseys and flags are going to be back in a the next few weeks if not next week and they will feel like idiots. These people want to feel like they are a part of something and also want the attention (Else they wouldn't post it on facebook) As soon as the media has something else to report on this will become a non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Von Miller loses an endorsement deal after kneeling for anthem https://sports.yahoo.com/von-miller-loses-endorsement-deal-kneeling-anthem-225340969.html that's wildly inaccurate. The deal expired a while ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 If you think this is going to have any long lasting affect on the NFL you are mistaken. All those people burning their tickets and jerseys and flags are going to be back in a the next few weeks if not next week and they will feel like idiots. These people want to feel like they are a part of something and also want the attention (Else they wouldn't post it on facebook) As soon as the media has something else to report on this will become a non-story. I don't think the protest will have a "long term effect" by themselves, but my point is it is another on a long list of things the NFL has done to alienate fans. Some fans will never come back, and many people aren't driven by the media. The NFL is a deteriorating brand, that is the truth. You can attibute it to many things, but the protest is one of those factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Trump says George Washington and Robert E Lee are the same. Many wave the Confederate flag and are angry with peaceful protests. Trump praises Nascar, which is a Confederate flag convention on most days. The hypocrisy of it all is what bothers me. Not the peaceful protest, even though I don't agree with it. Edited September 26, 2017 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 So when is the right time? That's just it. The majority of people are not opposed to protesting, but the timing of it. Not only are they on the clock, but they are supposed to be paying tribute to those that have fought for our country. Its seen as disrespectful by many, and understandably so. Any other time would be a better moment to take the platform, but none would probably garner as much attention as this. That is probably why they do it, but it will come with a cost at which the price is still unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Pretty sure he's over it. A lot of moronic comments are made on those shows. It won't be the last. Heck, he tried to buy the Bills , how mad can he be? This was a calculated move. Trump gets over nothing. Top of his list: Obama's merciless roast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 That's just it. The majority of people are not opposed to protesting, but the timing of it. Not only are they on the clock, but they are supposed to be paying tribute to those that have fought for our country. Its seen as disrespectful by many, and understandably so. Any other time would be a better moment to take the platform, but none would probably garner as much attention as this. That is probably why they do it, but it will come with a cost at which the price is still unknown. True story. Many people would support the protest against crooked cops, kkk, and WN if they didn't hijack something that is dear to their hearts in the process. WaPo was right, this is bad for everyone involved. Is just plain, unfettered attention really helping their cause? I would argue no since it has been so diluted now people don't even know what they are protesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's over 70% of Americans. Thats why protesters are being heavily booed. And Villanueva has the highest selling jersey right now. Just sayin' Well put. If anything, the protests are many viewers "last straw". I didn't get as much publicity, but Trump also complained about what many others complain about.... flags, refs, taking hitting out of the game, etc.... Let's also recognize NFLs "selective" free speech. No to breast cancer awareness, no to 9/11 remembrance, no to supporting slain police, but this is ok. If they were consistent this would not be as big an issue either. Did you watch/ listen to Skip and Shannon yesterday? Shannon Sharpe nailed it. This is not the protest the owners want the players to think it is, it's a protest against Trump telling the owners what to do. It's a financial protest. If it were truly a protest for unity and inclusion, why wouldn't thishave happened around so many other more truly important events and controversial statements and actions by Trump. The true stupidity of this protest is that it serves solely to create even further discord and division. If the NFL WAS SMART, everyone would have stood with arms locked together, showing both solidarity and respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The NFL is doing a fine job of killing itself all by itself. Doesn't need any help. Over the top commercialization, out of sight compensation, 22 minutes of action in a 3 hour event, alcohol-soaked stadiums: now its a national protest platform; its all pretty much going in the wrong direction slowly. That's about it! Isn't 22 minutes a bit high?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Polling data shows that majority of Americans agree that taking a knee during the national anthem is disrespectful and not the time for protest. Every time a player takes a knee it's helping Trump politically. Let that sink in Its amazing how even after the election people still think Trump operates with no strategy or purpose. The guys career has been built on playing his audience. Did you watch/ listen to Skip and Shannon yesterday? Shannon Sharpe nailed it. This is not the protest the owners want the players to think it is, it's a protest against Trump telling the owners what to do. It's a financial protest. If it were truly a protest for unity and inclusion, why wouldn't thishave happened around so many other more truly important events and controversial statements and actions by Trump. The true stupidity of this protest is that it serves solely to create even further discord and division. If the NFL WAS SMART, everyone would have stood with arms locked together, showing both solidarity and respect.Trump backed the owners into a corner. Once the players freaked out, the owners had no choice but stand with them. Edited September 26, 2017 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Oh... He works the chaos. Anybody watching what Lil' Kim is doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Its amazing how even after the election people still think Trump operates with no strategy or purpose. The guys career has been built on playing his audience. Trump backed the owners into a corner. Once the players freaked out, they had no choice but stand with them. I tried explaining this to my wife (who'd vote Democrat if the devil himself was running) that this is the exact reaction he was looking for and they (the players) ignorantly obliged him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Oh... He works the chaos. Anybody watching what Lil' Kim is doing? The slutty rap girl from the 90s? Wasnt aware anyone still watched her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Trump backed the owners into a corner. Once the players freaked out, they had no choice but stand with them. The owners really didn't have a choice regardless of the players' reactions. The President used threatening language related to their perfectly legal private business dealings, interjecting himself in a hostile way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The owners really didn't have a choice regardless of the players' reactions. The President used threatening language related to their perfectly legal private business dealings, interjecting himself in a hostile way. If the players hadnt reacted, the owners wouldnt have said a word. This mess is not good for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The first amendment in action, demonstrating what makes this country unique in the world, and nobody is happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 "Companies are starting to alienate potential customers for retweets" would be a better title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Wouldn't that make him more angry, since he was shut out twice? He was outbid the second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 He was outbid the second time. Can you imagine how much of a **** show this team would be with him owning it? Thank God he's in a position now where there's real curbs on the damage he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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