Lurker Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Then why are you on a team message board talking about that team? Likely a allias for one of our resident bomb throwers. Just stirring the pot. Help, I'm starting to think like Alex Jones....
26CornerBlitz Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Been here for 16 years spunky and a fan of the team for a lot longer. This is the first week I finally got tired of the disrespect that these prima donna athletes are showing the good ole USA. I've come here daily for a long time, and I love shooting the **** and talking Bills with a great forum of Bills fans. You my dear, are more of a newbie and as such, you may want to spout your retorts, but the truth is most red-blooded hard working, blue collar Bills fans do not like what these athletes are doing. You're 180 degrees out of phase. They're actually honoring the best tradition of the USA with silent protests under the right of the 1st amendment. It's just following the lib playbook You still hoping for Bills' players who protested to sustain injuries?
stony Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 please it's illegal for the president to say fire someone. Just like Regan fired the Air traffic controllers. he said get back to work or your fired. Then they called his bluff and he fired them. Another main stream media lie just like Chris Cuomo from CNN saying it's illegal to read wiki leaks and that he will read it for you and tell you how to interrupt it. Keep drinking the kool aide 18 USC, 227. The NFL is a private company. He can't do that. Reagan fired Federal employees. He can do that. Carry on.
phypon Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Look I understand why Hughes is upset, but how can people who are defending free speech complain that someone “went off reservation” by not towing the team line? Because they are hypocrites who don't even know what they are protesting. Their "narrative" will change from week to week to whatever the next trend brings. Respect is non-existent it seems. I don't think that they understand that the flag does not represent the government or any political figure.
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Sure you do. I actually thought you were one of the good guys.
17 Josh Allen Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I'm not saying saying the don't have the right of course they do. I support there right to do it on there own time and on there social media. you don't piss off millions of your customers and not expect a backlash. Simple solution keep the players in the locker room and this problem with the national anthem and disrespecting Veterans and the flag and are country will be avoided. They are there to play football Correct or did you pay to see a protest. long before any of this came in to the spotlight, I never paid no mind to the anthem they play before a game. the american way I suppose, like hot dogs and chevrolet. I never felt that my not paying much attention to the anthem before a game had anything to do with disrespecting the flag or military. I'm all for the anthem on memorial day or fourth of july, but a football game? that is totally your view and may be the view of others which is your right to express as such. it is not mine. seems there are those who haven't the full understanding of the 1st amendment and the very reason this country was\has been protected by those who serve(d). and that is for the freedom and rights to all americans, which includes freedom to express\protest. the deal now is that even in silent protest some feel they not only don't have that right to do so, but believe they're disrespecting the flag as well as the military and that could not be further from the truth. as for the platform, what greater audience. it even got the potus involved. this battle of political views and the direction society seems to be going, is not going to have a pretty ending I'm afraid. this is an ugly world we live in today it's a real damn shame watching this country divide as it has and the hate that dwells in the mist. anger is an emotion only you yourself can control. while this is all going on, I will be watching football games. it's source of entertainment and I'm not going to allow an anthem, that as I said, I really paid no mind to anyway, interfere anymore than I'll allow this present political battle interfere. I mind my own.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I actually thought you were one of the good guys. I'm not a good guy unless I see freedom the way you do?
BillsFan4 Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 please it's illegal for the president to say fire someone. Just like Regan fired the Air traffic controllers. he said get back to work or your fired. Then they called his bluff and he fired them. Another main stream media lie just like Chris Cuomo from CNN saying it's illegal to read wiki leaks and that he will read it for you and tell you how to interrupt it. Keep drinking the kool aide Actually I think there might be some truth to that statement. Here is the law as written - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/227
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Somebody else who simply does not get it. get what? Tell me your great stance. It is part of the NFL rules that players stand for the National Anthem. It's NFL policy and a bunch of little bitches decided they'd break the rules to protest. Trump was right! Fire them. If my job told me to come in wearing a suit and tie and I walked into the office in my boxer shorts protesting some stupid thing Trump said, they would send me home, dock my pay and fine me. What gives these athletes the right to violate the corporate policy that has been in action for 40+ years. Edited September 26, 2017 by BillsRdue
The Wiz Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I'm not a good guy unless I see freedom the way you do? No, You're not a good guy cuz you tweet stuff all the time and get our hopes up all week and then the team falls flat.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 No, You're not a good guy cuz you tweet stuff all the time and get our hopes up all week and then the team falls flat. Damn me!
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 I'm not a good guy unless I see freedom the way you do? It's not about freedom, it is about following the policy set in place. They can express their views any way they want, off the field, with their own music as long as they follow the rule of law, If I decided to protest my company policy by doing whatever the f'k I wanted they would not think twice about termination of employment. Trump was right. He just phrased it a little harsh.
vincec Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Actually I think there might be some truth to that statement. Here is the law as written - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/227 That seems pretty cut and dry. And never enforced too.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 It's not about freedom, it is about following the policy set in place. They can express their views any way they want, off the field, with their own music as long as they follow the rule of law, If I decided to protest my company policy by doing whatever the f'k I wanted they would not think twice about termination of employment. Trump was right. He just phrased it a little harsh. Your understanding of NFL policy is incorrect. The players aren't required to stand at attention with their hands over their hearts.
The Wiz Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 It's not about freedom, it is about following the policy set in place. They can express their views any way they want, off the field, with their own music as long as they follow the rule of law, If I decided to protest my company policy by doing whatever the f'k I wanted they would not think twice about termination of employment. Trump was right. He just phrased it a little harsh. Their company(NFL) has no policy in place that says they have to stand during the anthem with their hands on their heart and speaking/singing the words. Show me where it does and you have my support in firing all of them.
stony Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 get what? Tell me your great stance. It is part of the NFL rules that players stand for the National Anthem with their hand over their heart. It's NFL policy and a bunch of little bitches decided they'd break the rules to protest. Trump was right! Fire them. If my job told me to come in wearing a suit and tie and I walked into the office in my boxer shorts protesting some stupid thing Trump said, they would send me home, dock my pay and fine me. What gives these athletes the right to violate the corporate policy that has been in action for 40+ years. It actually says players "should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking." Nowhere does it say players must have their hand over there heart. And "should" is a million miles away from "must." Hence no fines or suspensions from the NFL. And lets be honest, when does the NFL not fine players when they've got a case??
Kirby Jackson Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Been here for 16 years spunky and a fan of the team for a lot longer. This is the first week I finally got tired of the disrespect that these prima donna athletes are showing the good ole USA. I've come here daily for a long time, and I love shooting the **** and talking Bills with a great forum of Bills fans. You my dear, are more of a newbie and as such, you may want to spout your retorts, but the truth is most red-blooded hard working, blue collar Bills fans do not like what these athletes are doing. All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently, the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship. - George Bernard Shaw
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Your understanding of NFL policy is incorrect. The players aren't required to stand at attention with their hands over their hearts. NFL GAMES- OPERATION MANUAL The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
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