Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Before this week I guarantee a number of posters would have said the oppositeNot the smart ones
vincec Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Just as a quick update he is 17-15, 51 TDs, 17 turnovers and is the highest rated QB in Bills history. You can't even spell the guy's name!!! You like him that much?!? Let me guess you'd rather have "Oswheeler" too. Wow. When do they fit him for his gold jacket?
Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Seriously? You still comment on Quarterbacks?BB is like your crazy drunk uncle when it comes to QB evaluation. He once wanted to trade Mario Williams for John Skelton. True Story
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 You can't even spell the guy's name!!! You like him that much?!? Let me guess you'd rather have "Oswheeler" too. The dude's got vowels all over the place. But yes, I would take him over TT. For sure.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Wow. When do they fit him for his gold jacket?You aren't eligible to go into the Hall of Fame until 5 years after the end of your career. I'd imagine that the do the gold jack fittings around that time because guy's weights fluctuate after their career ends. Edited September 24, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 ...the kid played his azz off and showed far more poise than I expected.....hats off and kudos TT for a job well done PERIOD.....
Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 The dude's got vowels all over the place. But yes, I would take him over TT. For sure. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but that one wouldn't be popular around the league.
HappyDays Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Not the smart ones Honestly before this week I would have been undecided. I still think Siemian can be good but his arm strength is well below where it needs to be so he has a long way to go. I've never seen an NFL QB attempt to throw the ball away and watch it get picked at the sidelines.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 BB is like your crazy drunk uncle when it comes to QB evaluation. He once wanted to trade Mario Williams for John Skelton. True Story Maybe he was ahead of his time. Today, Mario straight up for Skelton would be a pretty even trade.
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Everyone is entitled to their opinion but that one wouldn't be popular around the league. I personally will always take potential over floor. I don't think that's unpopular around the league.
The Dean Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 He still sucks though, right? Well, Duh! He's the Bill starting QB after all.
Augie Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Maybe he was ahead of his time. Today, Mario straight up for Skelton would be a pretty even trade. Mario WAS. Skelton....well.....
Kelly the Dog Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Honestly before this week I would have been undecided. I still think Siemian can be good but his arm strength is well below where it needs to be so he has a long way to go. I've never seen an NFL QB attempt to throw the ball away and watch it get picked at the sidelines.The first INT was almost as bad. Leaning backwards, throwing sidearm, 20 yards downfield into the middle of about four defenders. That was awful. There were two reasons I thought the Bills had a chance today. The heat and humidity with Denver having to play on the road across the country where they aren't as good as at home, and that Seimien just isn't that good. And he wasn't. He made a few nice throws but every NFL QB can do that.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 I personally will always take potential over floor. I don't think that's unpopular around the league. Siemian has WAY less potential than Tyrod!! Are you familiar with him? He's a smart game manager with limited physical tools. If you would have said the opposite I could have agreed. He's a high floor guy that will have a Hoyer type career (that's not an insult). He just doesn't have ANY skill that separates him.
BillsMedia Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Haha I would 1000% take Simien over TT. Are you kidding? We know you would, we know. You would take Shane Falco over Tyrod so thats not saying much.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Maybe he was ahead of his time. Today, Mario straight up for Skelton would be a pretty even trade.So would Jim Kelly for Chris Watson at this point.
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 Siemian has WAY less potential than Tyrod!! Are you familiar with him? He's a smart game manager with limited physical tools. If you would have said the opposite I could have agreed. He's a high floor guy that will have a Hoyer type career (that's not an insult). He just doesn't have ANY skill that separates him. No. Siemian isn't a 7th year player with 3 years as a starter. Players with worse physical tools than him have gone on to be better QB's than both him and TT in their career. He's 10-7 as a starter, in his third year in the league, and second year starter, at 25 years old. Before today, he was tied for first in TD passes thrown. He's got room to grow and has already demonstrated to have grown A TON since last season. When this season shakes out, Siemian will be considered a better QB than TT.
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