GreggTX Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I agree OP, but he's really struggling out there just to get anything going. Moulds didn't break out until his 3rd year, so I will be patient. Also, I don't blame him much for thar near miss in Carolina. Tough break and he had 0 catches vs Denver. We will be seeing new faces in that WR corps next year. It is our weakest position group right now along with the OL.
JoPar_v2 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I don't know the exact number and don't keep a tally. He has underperformed expectations. He has more concerns than promise thus far. It is 3 games, which is all we have to evaluate. Hopefully he improves. Through 3 games, very unimpressive. Of course. So no numbers, just hasn't met "expectations." Whose expectations? Yours? Well my expectations for jones are equally as meaningless as yours, but he's meeting mine so far.
QB Bills Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 He's got 4 drops and counting. Sammy had 1 last year.Sammy is light years ahead of Zay Jones in terms of talent though.
OhDozeBills Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 He'll be fine, I really like the kid and it's only 3 games. He's going to make some big plays for a lot of years with this team
bbb Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I love how after the drop vs. Carolina, I kept hearing "rookie mistake" and "he'll learn from this"...................Do you really have to learn "Catch the ball when it's in your hands and the game is on the line??"
timekills17 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I love how after the drop vs. Carolina, I kept hearing "rookie mistake" and "he'll learn from this"...................Do you really have to learn "Catch the ball when it's in your hands and the game is on the line??" It's learn the correct read and route to run so you don't have to make an acrobatic adjustment to get back to the ball. This plus not having to think as long about what route on the tree allows a receiver to focus more on his play and the development of the defender vs him vs openings on the field..etc. This is why it takes many receivers a few years. They get by on physical talent in college, much like many QBs. It's why rookies aren't often "NFL ready." I think this fundamental misunderstanding is why fans today are so impatient. Sure, some will buck the trend; usually speedsters because you don't have to learn that route. But great possession receivers almost all take time to develop (see Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Andre Reed.) Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
CDogg20 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I'm confident things will slow down for him and he'll be all we hoped for. It takes a little time, especially from a smaller school. It's not a talent deficiency, it's getting comfortable between the ears.This is exactly what it is. If you check his stats in college there were production bumps each year. He comes off as well spoken and bright. Hell get there. I expect him to pick it up back half of this year and close to 1000 yards next year.
Scott7975 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) The good thing about Zay though is this hasn't been his history. He's known for having great hands. Guys that drop a lot in college or as pros usually don't improve that much because it is a talent thing more than a freak or confidence thing. I think as soon as he goes two straight games with no drops this all goes away. I'm not even really down on Zay. Hope he gets it together. These are things that can change a football game from a win to loss and vise versa though. One of the reasons we beat the Packers a few years ago is because of some drops. Tyrod played good and can play good but he isn't Brady. The team around him has to help. Edited September 25, 2017 by Scott7975
4merper4mer Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Of course. So no numbers, just hasn't met "expectations." Whose expectations? Yours? Well my expectations for jones are equally as meaningless as yours, but he's meeting mine so far. You expected nothing?
JoPar_v2 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 You expected nothing? Where did I say he's done nothing? As usual you're not funny.
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 They're not easing him into the game. Give him some quick catches to get him in sync. Don't make his first target a bullet in the end zone in traffic.
Matt_In_NH Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 WR's ability to block is the number one thing in Buffalo, its been that way for a long time.
Royale with Cheese Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 It's confidence right now. He will get it back.
Webster Guy Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 he had that amazing catch in preseason and i remember thinking Man this kid is gonna be a great one for us. he cost us a win already by cutting that route short in the Carolina game, basically a mental error according to Donald Jones. And now he has the yips and is on a streak of 3 drops in a row. He's going to come out of it though. Right?
BigBuff423 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I expected him to get off to a much better start given his family's NFL background and his College production. I understand your point (i think), but it is a rare thing for a Rookie WR to come in and make an immediate impact. It usually takes one year in the NFL, to stay healthy and have the same Offense at that, to really see the stride we want in terms of production. I'm not going to turn this into a Tyrod bashing thread, but Zay is open on a number of occasions and he's not getting thrown to....it's hard for a pass catcher to make just one or two catches a game, he's got to get 5-6 targets at least to give him some confidence and feel for the game / ball.
4merper4mer Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Where did I say he's done nothing? As usual you're not funny. Zero yards. And a dropped touchdown for the second week in a row.....is pretty close to nothing wouldn't you say? I'm sure he will be fine but if he is meeting your expectations then you had low expectations.
grb Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I love how after the drop vs. Carolina, I kept hearing "rookie mistake" and "he'll learn from this"...................Do you really have to learn "Catch the ball when it's in your hands and the game is on the line??" ZJ's problem in Carolina wasn't making the catch, but route running and - even more important - ball awareness. Jones didn't know where the pass was until it was right on top of him. A bit sooner tracking the ball would have meant a small tweak to his route and an effortless catch. And that's something which will improve with experience. Remember : It wasn't that long ago ZJ was supposed to be an alternate third receiver, behind a clear number one (Watkins) and the seasoned veteran (Boldin). He wasn't supposed to carry so much responsibility so soon.
CanadianFan Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 He had a HUGE DROP on Sunday's game in the END ZONE. He was lucky someone grabbed it. Jordan Matthews also dropped a 3rd down catch that would've been a 1st down. We can't have 2 #2 WRs who are going to grow reputations as dropping passes in key situations!
GG Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 How can anyone argue with a straight face that Zay Jones is NOT having a tough start of the season?
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