Stephen Curry...Big thumbs up!

[MakeBuffaloGreatAgain]

No. Not in my opinion. It's been a national emergency for 200 years. Greatly lessened by still an enormous issue. As evidenced by this issue.

It's not even close to an issue. That's a main reason why trump won the election. Non-racist white people were tired of being accused of racism/sexism. Maybe we just wanted a president that could actually fix the economy. And the more non-racist people get accused of being racist, the more they will fight back. I will say, this whole Keapernik movement is really helping grow support for the right. Those with common sense in the middle are shifting to the right because of these ill informed millionaires.

[Rob's House]

Good question. Like most things it won't be a singular moment or milestone. It's certainly not going to happen in my lifetime so I will never know.

 

How do you know? We've come a long way. We're at a point in time where all people have been given equal rights under the law, and culturally we view racism [towards minorities] as the greatest sin imaginable. How do we know we're not already there?

[Kelly the Dog]

 

How do you know? We've come a long way. We're at a point in time where all people have been given equal rights under the law, and culturally we view racism [towards minorities] as the greatest sin imaginable. How do we know we're not already there?

This incident is irrefutable proof. Look at the vitriol from one side or the other. I'm watching a black pundit on TV right now who never once has disagreed with anything Donald Trump has ever said. Not once. He's completely on the side of the players were wrong and they disrespected the flag. Thinks Trump has never said or done a thing that was racist. And he just admitted there is a huge racial problem still in the country.

 

I'd rather just end this discussion with you here. Say the last word if you would like. Cheers.

[Rob's House]

This incident is irrefutable proof. Look at the vitriol from one side or the other. I'm watching a black pundit on TV right now who never once has disagreed with anything Donald Trump has ever said. Not once. He's completely on the side of the players were wrong and they disrespected the flag. Thinks Trump has never said or done a thing that was racist. And he just admitted there is a huge racial problem still in the country.

 

I'd rather just end this discussion with you here. Say the last word if you would like. Cheers.

 

I'll let you have the last word. It was a good discussion.

[BillsFan4]

The guy who compared slavery to coming to the land of dreams and opportunity? Got it.

And implied all the people who don't work or pay taxes are black and live in the ghetto...

[BillsFan4]

How do you know? We've come a long way. We're at a point in time where all people have been given equal rights under the law, and culturally we view racism [towards minorities] as the greatest sin imaginable. How do we know we're not already there?

Considering that in 2016 there were still school(s) in Mississippi that were segregated until a judge ordered them (once again) to desegregate, I'd say we aren't quite there yet... not IMO anyway.

 

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/17/478389720/after-50-year-legal-struggle-mississippi-school-district-ordered-to-desegregate

 

This is only one small example of stuff like this that still exists.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure that racism will ever fully go away though (until the human race is one big mash up of all the races) But right now we are only barely over 50 years from segregation and legal discrimination. It was only in 1964 that the Civil Rights Act was passed to finally outlawed discrimination by race, religion, sex etc and it was pretty weak when it first passed. It wasn't given the true power to enforce these new laws until the years that followed. There were many court cases (supreme and otherwise) in the decades that followed to fight the discrimination that continued to happen. We still to this day see court cases concerning discrimination.

 

There are still many people who were brought up in environments where it was normal to be prejudice toward minorities. It's going to take more time, but we are generally moving in the right direction.

[unbillievable]

Considering that in 2016 there were still school(s) in Mississippi that were segregated until a judge ordered them (once again) to desegregate, I'd say we aren't quite there yet... not IMO anyway.

 

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/17/478389720/after-50-year-legal-struggle-mississippi-school-district-ordered-to-desegregate

 

This is only one small example of stuff like this that still exists.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure that racism will ever fully go away though (until the human race is one big mash up of all the races) But right now we are only barely over 50 years from segregation and legal discrimination. It was only in 1964 that the Civil Rights Act was passed to finally outlawed discrimination by race, religion, sex etc and it was pretty weak when it first passed. It wasn't given the true power to enforce these new laws until the years that followed. There were many court cases (supreme and otherwise) in the decades that followed to fight the discrimination that continued to happen. We still to this day see court cases concerning discrimination.

 

There are still many people who were brought up in environments where it was normal to be prejudice toward minorities. It's going to take more time, but we are generally moving in the right direction.

 

Did you even read that article?

That's not a law. It's not even racial segregation. It's economic flight.

 

That is an example of people fleeing poor neighborhoods. The mostly white schools aren't keeping anyone out. The parent's don't want to send their kids to schools in the poor neighborhoods. That's like calling me racist because I want to shop at the nice Target store instead of the ghetto Walmart.

 

What's the solution? Follow Obama's proposal and build section 8 housing in rich communities?

Edited September 26, 2017 by unbillievable

[Doc Brown]

It's not even close to an issue. That's a main reason why trump won the election. Non-racist white people were tired of being accused of racism/sexism. Maybe we just wanted a president that could actually fix the economy. And the more non-racist people get accused of being racist, the more they will fight back. I will say, this whole Keapernik movement is really helping grow support for the right. Those with common sense in the middle are shifting to the right because of these ill informed millionaires.

That's the brilliance of Trump whether he meant it or not. There were only a few players that knelt before this weekend. By calling their teammates who knelt SOB's he created a situation where many of the teammates of those kneeling (who always stand and honor our country) acted emotionally to Trump's comments and knelt with them during the National Anthem to both show that they support them and protest the president. If you're on the right you now spin that into all those who knelt this previous Sunday hate our country, military, etc. because they didn't stand for the National Anthem.

 

So the Democrats are now is forced to praise those who didn't stand for our National Anthem further pissing off the white working class and military families. You let the left talk about how awful you as a person and play identity politics. Meanwhile, you're out there campaigning on economic issues and border control. It's part of the strategy that won him the election. I think the way things are going right now that Trump wins in 2020 easily and picks up even more states and the popular vote.

Edited September 26, 2017 by Doc Brown

[BillsFan4]

Did you even read that article?

That's not a law. It's not even racial segregation. It's economic flight.

 

That is an example of people fleeing poor neighborhoods. The mostly white schools aren't keeping anyone out. The parent's don't want to send their kids to schools in the poor neighborhoods. That's like calling me racist because I want to shop at the nice Target store instead of the ghetto Walmart.

 

What's the solution? Follow Obama's proposal and build section 8 housing in rich communities?

Yes. I read the entire article. I get what you are saying, and I somewhat agree. They weren't illegally keeping kids out, but that judge also ruled that they weren't doing enough to desegregate either.

 

But judge still did have to force them to combine school districts to finally desegregate. He said no more excuses. Before that the school was 99.7% black (or whatever the exact # was).

 

I know what you're saying though and I do somewhat agree. I get that it wasn't against the law for those kids to go to each other's schools.

 

Maybe it wasn't the best example... It's not an example of people fleeing poor neighborhoods though, because those people never lived in that neighborhood to begin with. I don't know why you assume the black neighborhood must be poor.

Like the article said, white people live in on one side of the tracks and black people on the other. They've never lived together. The white people didn't want their kids going to school in the black schools because they didn't feel those schools provided the same level of education to their kids.

 

To me, this is one of the points of the article -

 

"The delay in segregation has deprived generations of students of the constitutionally-guaranteed right of an integrated education," Judge Debra Brown wrote. "Although no court order can right these wrongs, it is the duty of the District to ensure that not one more student suffers under this burden."

 

And also that this has been going on for 50 years. The court has been trying to get them to desegregate. In just the 1980's, according to the courts, they built school districts designed to keep the schools segregated and they assigned faculty based on race -

 

"But Cleveland agreed to allow black students into white schools, and vice versa. However, the federal government later alleged that the district established "dual residency" policies to cheat and send students to schools based on their race instead of their neighborhood. The district also built new schools in locations designed to keep black students in all-black schools, the U.S. said in a motion in the '80s, and assigned faculty based on race."

 

 

 

Also, there was also more to my post than the thing you focused on. My overall point is that racial discrimination is a fight that has been going on for a long time and still continues to this day. That it only ended barely over 50 years ago and even then the laws to enforce it had no teeth. It wasn't until the years that followed that those laws were given the power to be truly enforced. That fight still continues to this day. We aren't that far separated from those days and many were brought up,in environments where it was normal to discriminate.

[row_33]

That's the brilliance of Trump whether he meant it or not. There were only a few players that knelt before this weekend. By calling their teammates who knelt SOB's he created a situation where many of the teammates of those kneeling (who always stand and honor our country) acted emotionally to Trump's comments and knelt with them during the National Anthem to both show that they support them and protest the president. If you're on the right you now spin that into all those who knelt this previous Sunday hate our country, military, etc. because they didn't stand for the National Anthem.

 

So the Democrats are now is forced to praise those who didn't stand for our National Anthem further pissing off the white working class and military families. You let the left talk about how awful you as a person and play identity politics. Meanwhile, you're out there campaigning on economic issues and border control. It's part of the strategy that won him the election. I think the way things are going right now that Trump wins in 2020 easily and picks up even more states and the popular vote.

 

vast majority of voters do not like disrespect to the flag or anthem

 

brilliant political move by Trump

[boyst]

I should go to the Atlanta game with a rebel flag draped across my back

[Koko78]

I should go to the Atlanta game with a rebel flag draped across my back

 

That is only acceptable if accompanied by this ensamble:

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

That is only acceptable if accompanied by this ensamble:

 

I've changed my mind.

 

REMOVE THAT FLAG!!!!

[boyst]

 

That is only acceptable if accompanied by this ensamble:

 

I could send you a photo of a friend in a bikini very similar to that and she looks great

[grinreaper]

 

That is only acceptable if accompanied by this ensamble:

 

I think I'm changing my mind about kneeling.

[row_33]

that flag is only acceptable if Free Bird is being played in front of it

[DC Tom]

that flag is only acceptable if Free Bird is being played in front of it

 

I do not understand the popularity of Free Bird. It's almost as bad as Tom Petty's best song.

[boyst]

 

I do not understand the popularity of Free Bird. It's almost as bad as Tom Petty's best song.

yes. This. oMG. A thousand times this. Song sucks.

[Kelly the Dog]

 

I do not understand the popularity of Free Bird.

Rednecks always misinterpreted the lyrics. It wasnt about a Marlboro man with wanderlust, they thought it was about a turkey giveaway at the Cracker Barrel.

[Boatdrinks]

yes. This. oMG. A thousand times this. Song sucks.

Yep, I think sweet home Alabama is a much better song. It's at least as good as Tom Pettys best song , which is American Girl imo.