Stephen Curry...Big thumbs up!

[26CornerBlitz]

The best commissioner in major pro sports weighs in:

 

[BillsFan4]

Assuming that's an accurate quote, it's still not really racist. That's a fact. Is this what they mean by "hate fact" ?

And your quote is incorrect and your stats don't inform the situation as they don't differentiate between white and hispanic, nor do they isolate stats for the inner city. another misquote, and suggesting that the judge's involvement in hispanic advocacy groups could indicate bias isn't racist.

He never said that.

So you offered me up your best, had to misquote him to try to make him sound racist, and still couldn't come up with anything.

Are there any others or is that it?

Here's that first quote, since you seemed to wonder if it was accurate - https://mobile.twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/908195007936520192/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.distractify.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F09%2F16%2F1uwRtG%2Fcomedian-racist-tweets-trump-2013

 

How is that not racist? Please explain. It Seemed very racist to me.

 

You do have a point about that data not differentiating between hispanics and whites. I've seen other data when I looked into this statement previously and could not find anything to support Trump's claim that violent crime in Major cities (not inner cities) is overwhelmingly black and Hispanic.

 

But it's not even the exact numbers. It's that he seems to think that the majority of blacks and hispanics are criminal types (from multiple different things he's said and tweeted)

 

I don't see how I really misquoted him on the Hispanic judge. He even elaborated on those comments in a couple separate interviews. Here's just one quote from 1 interview -

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/donald-trump-gonzalo-curiel-jake-tapper-transcript/index.html

 

TAPPER: But you're saying you can't do his job because of that.

TRUMP: Look, he's proud of his heritage, OK? I'm building a wall.

Now, I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics because they are going to get jobs right now. They are going to get jobs. I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics.

We are building a wall. He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico.

The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings, rulings that people can't even believe. This case should have ended years ago in summary judgment. The best lawyers I have spoken to so many lawyers, they said, this is not a case. This is a case that should have ended.

TAPPER: I --

TRUMP: This judge is giving us unfair rulings. Now, I say why? Well, I'm building a wall, OK? And it's a wall between Mexico. Not another country.

TAPPER: But he's not from Mexico. He's from Indiana.

TRUMP: He's of Mexican heritage and he's very proud of it.

 

And I guess I misquoted him a bit on the immigration thing. I was going by memory. But to say he never said that is not true. Here's the exact quote - When Mexico sends its people, theyre not sending their best. Theyre not sending you. Theyre not sending you. Theyre sending people that have lots of problems, and theyre bringing those problems with us. Theyre bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Theyre rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

 

That, to me anyway, seems to imply he thinks the majority are bad.

 

 

Trump has quite a history of racism going back decades. He's had civil complaints filed against him by employees for racial discrimination and many have told stories of his racism (like making all the black employees go into a back room when him and Ivanka visited for example).

Him and his father were investigated for years back in the 60's and 70's for not renting to minorities and sued 2 separate times by NY State. At one point they didn't have anyone besides white people living in their apartments. Out of 3700 apartments, only 7 were rented to African Americans and almost all 7 had to force their way in. Here's a good read in that if you're interested -

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

 

We obviously see things very differently. I could continue to list examples but If you can't or don't see racism in any of those remarks (or legal actions) I've already listed then there's really not much more to say here. We will just have to agree to disagree I guess.

Edited September 24, 2017 by BillsFan4

[grinreaper]

I'll start with a couple.

 

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Sadly, because president Obama has done such a poor job as president, you won't see another black president for generations!

 

Or this one saying the overwhelming majority of all violent crime is committed by blacks and hispanics -

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/908172588886753280/photo/3

 

Here's the crime rates by race - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

 

 

Or the one where he said his judge in the Trump University scam case has a conflict of interest because he wants to build a wall and the judge was of Mexican descent.

 

Or when he said that almost all immigrants coming in to the US were rapists and drug dealers. (again, not true)

Talk about the truth. When you make up blatant lies it makes all of what you state questionable.

[26CornerBlitz]

Steph Curry Responds (5:21)

Steph Curry spoke with the media about Donald Trump’s comments about rescinding the Warriors’ invitation to the White House to celebrate their championship, outlining why the team had made the decision not to attend anyway.

 

[BillsFan4]

Talk about the truth. When you make up blatant lies it makes all of what you state questionable.

I addressed that in the post right above yours (post #62)

 

'And I guess I misquoted him a bit on the immigration thing. I was going by memory. But to say he never said that is not true. Here's the exact quote - When Mexico sends its people, theyre not sending their best. Theyre not sending you. Theyre not sending you. Theyre sending people that have lots of problems, and theyre bringing those problems with us. Theyre bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Theyre rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

 

 

Like I said I was going by memory and I did misquote him somewhat. But it's not like I totally made it up.

 

When you combine that comment with the many other comments he's made on minorities, you start to see a very clear pattern and way of thinking. He's continually linking minorities and crime.

 

It's also the way he's referred to different races. "The blacks" "the Mexicans/hispanics" "the muslims" (not even a race).

 

There is just a overall pattern that's clear to see. (at least IMO)

Edited September 24, 2017 by BillsFan4

[boyst]

You know what would be cool, if I could read a !@#$ing topic about Trump without reading something about Obama. I didn't like it with w and Obama nor with Clinton and w. It's just a bunch of false equivalence and non sequiturs and weird parallelisms that scream louder than !@#$ that most of you have no earthly clue what you're talking about or how to construct a cogent argument.

 

Focus !@#$ers.

 

What would also be cool is if you dicklicks would stop acting as if racism didn't exist. It does. Is it a seething undercurrent of divisive cultural sentiment that predicates every aspect of society?

 

Of course not.

 

Is it part of the architecture of our mainstream American ethos?

 

!@#$ no.

 

But does it exist and are their ball-washing racist scoundrels who make **** tough for !@#$s?

 

Yup.

 

It's a thing !@#$ers.

 

If you deny it, then you're a dolt. Maybe you're a racist "dolt" which, incidentally, is marginally better than just being a standard issue "dolt" because at least your doltishness is driven by a sense of purpose.

 

That's all I got. I'm thinking about going to get laid, or at least enjoying a spirited episode of intense maturbation with "getting laid" as the primary mental focal point.

 

Peace niggas(ers).

before even reading this. Good to see you back. Hope you're well. Glad you're not dead

[BillsFan4]

was he though? never produced a real birth cert... He may be, but we will never really know. what we do know is that he is a globalist who wanted to destroy america's economy and culture to bring about his one world NWO. Is it a surprise that the stock market is hitting record highs after he got out of office, and a nationalist business man took over?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

[boyst]

Steph Curry Responds (5:21)

 

and when a Democrat is back in office the fanfare that will happen when they finally get to visit the White House will be hilarious

[BillsFan4]

and when a Democrat is back in office the fanfare that will happen when they finally get to visit the White House will be hilarious

Lol. I can definitely see that happening.

[B-Man]

STEPHEN CURRY WANTS TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/09/stephen-curry-wants-to-have-it-both-ways.php

 

Stephen Curry is a superstar with the NBA champion Golden State Warriors. The Warriors received an invitation to the White House, pursuant to the longstanding custom of thus honoring championship sports teams.

 

The Warriors, whose star players and coach are outspoken critics of President Trump, made it known that they were ambivalent at best about visiting the White House. Curry said, “I don’t want to go, that’s my nucleus of my belief.”

 

President Trump responded by pulling the invitation. He tweeted:

 

Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team. Stephen Curry is hesitating, therefore invitation is withdrawn

!

 

 

Withdrawing the invitation was the right thing to do, I think. The Warriors, or at least their core players and their coach, didn’t really want to go. If the team had taken a vote, as was contemplated, it would possibly have caused internal division.

 

Meanwhile, Trump didn’t want to suffer the indignity of having his invitation rejected outright. The solution: pull the invitation.

 

Curry, though, has taken umbrage at the president’s tweet. He complained:

 

I don’t know why he feels the need to target certain individuals rather than others. I have an idea of why, but, it’s just kind of beneath, I think, a leader of a country to go that route. It’s not what leaders do.

 

 

I agree with the view that the U.S. President should not get into pissing contests with celebrities, athletes, and the like. But Curry is being disingenuous. Trump “targeted” him because he’s the face of the Golden State Warriors.

 

Curry is trying to have it both ways. When Curry says he doesn’t want to visit the White House, he’s not viewing Trump as the leader of our country, but rather as a politician he doesn’t like. When Trump fires back, suddenly Curry sees Trump as the nation’s leader.

 

Curry’s “why little old me?” act borders on the pathetic. If he wants to show his contempt for Trump by refusing to participate in the time-honored tradition of the White House visit, that’s his right. But don’t whine when Trump calls you out. Don’t hide behind your less heralded teammates and/or your coach by suggesting that others should have been called out too.

 

Man up.

Edited September 24, 2017 by B-Man

[26CornerBlitz]

@ramonashelburne

Steve Kerr: "How about the irony of, 'Free speech is fine if you're a neo-Nazi chanting hate slogans, but ... not to kneel in protest?'"

[Rob's House]

Here's that first quote, since you seemed to wonder if it was accurate - https://mobile.twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/908195007936520192/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.distractify.com%2Fpolitics%2F2017%2F09%2F16%2F1uwRtG%2Fcomedian-racist-tweets-trump-2013

 

How is that not racist? Please explain. It Seemed very racist to me.

 

You do have a point about that data not differentiating between hispanics and whites. I've seen other data when I looked into this statement previously and could not find anything to support Trump's claim that violent crime in Major cities (not inner cities) is overwhelmingly black and Hispanic.

 

But it's not even the exact numbers. It's that he seems to think that the majority of blacks and hispanics are criminal types (from multiple different things he's said and tweeted)

 

I don't see how I really misquoted him on the Hispanic judge. He even elaborated on those comments in a couple separate interviews. Here's just one quote from 1 interview -

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/donald-trump-gonzalo-curiel-jake-tapper-transcript/index.html

 

TAPPER: But you're saying you can't do his job because of that.

TRUMP: Look, he's proud of his heritage, OK? I'm building a wall.

Now, I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics because they are going to get jobs right now. They are going to get jobs. I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics.

We are building a wall. He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico.

The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings, rulings that people can't even believe. This case should have ended years ago in summary judgment. The best lawyers I have spoken to so many lawyers, they said, this is not a case. This is a case that should have ended.

TAPPER: I --

TRUMP: This judge is giving us unfair rulings. Now, I say why? Well, I'm building a wall, OK? And it's a wall between Mexico. Not another country.

TAPPER: But he's not from Mexico. He's from Indiana.

TRUMP: He's of Mexican heritage and he's very proud of it.

 

And I guess I misquoted him a bit on the immigration thing. I was going by memory. But to say he never said that is not true. Here's the exact quote - When Mexico sends its people, theyre not sending their best. Theyre not sending you. Theyre not sending you. Theyre sending people that have lots of problems, and theyre bringing those problems with us. Theyre bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Theyre rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

 

That, to me anyway, seems to imply he thinks the majority are bad.

 

 

Trump has quite a history of racism going back decades. He's had civil complaints filed against him by employees for racial discrimination and many have told stories of his racism (like making all the black employees go into a back room when him and Ivanka visited for example).

Him and his father were investigated for years back in the 60's and 70's for not renting to minorities and sued 2 separate times by NY State. At one point they didn't have anyone besides white people living in their apartments. Out of 3700 apartments, only 7 were rented to African Americans and almost all 7 had to force their way in. Here's a good read in that if you're interested -

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

 

We obviously see things very differently. I could continue to list examples but If you can't or don't see racism in any of those remarks (or legal actions) I've already listed then there's really not much more to say here. We will just have to agree to disagree I guess.

The bigger point is that you have categorically declared him to be a racist and done so with great certainty. Your examples are dubious at best. By your own admission these statements SEEM racist based on your interpretation. Yet there's nothing inherently racist about any of them. And that's the entire body of evidence supporting your assertion. There's not much there.

 

And few civil suits brought against the owner of a multi-billion dollar empire is not indicative of anything other than doing business in America.

 

@ramonashelburne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve Kerr: "How about the irony of, 'Free speech is fine if you're a neo-Nazi chanting hate slogans, but ... not to kneel in protest?'"

He failed to heed the warning of Lincoln Osiris.

[boyst]

@ramonashelburne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve Kerr: "How about the irony of, 'Free speech is fine if you're a neo-Nazi chanting hate slogans, but ... not to kneel in protest?'"

what does taht even mean? that's another example of idiots tweeting bull ****.

[BillsFan4]

The bigger point is that you have categorically declared him to be a racist and done so with great certainty. Your examples are dubious at best. By your own admission these statements SEEM racist based on your interpretation. Yet there's nothing inherently racist about any of them. And that's the entire body of evidence supporting your assertion. There's not much there.

And few civil suits brought against the owner of a multi-billion dollar empire is not indicative of anything other than doing business in America.

 

He failed to heed the warning of Lincoln Osiris.

I completely disagree. I think those things I listed clearly show his racial prejudice. You still ever explained why those statements are not racist. You just keep saying they aren't. But why?

 

Why is saying there won't be another black president for decades not racist? He equates all black people as the same.

 

Or saying a Hispanic judge can't rule fairly on his case because he is "Mexican"

 

How do you explain away not renting to black people and getting sued twice by the government for racial discrimination? That's not racist??? Get real man.

 

Or getting fined $200,000 at his casino for having black card dealer removed?

 

Or the reports of employees saying they were forced into a back room when Trump came to visit?

 

Or the report of him asking a golf buddy if he ever "F***** n-words"

 

The are lots of stories like this about him...

 

 

Or him referring to minorities as "THE blacks" "THE Mexicans/hispanics" "THE muslims"

 

Or wanting to ban All Muslims from entering the US. That's an entire religion that makes up almost half the worlds popluarion, and trump talks about them like they are a race.

 

 

I honestly don't understand how people can't see this guy is racist...

Edited September 24, 2017 by BillsFan4

[Kelly the Dog]

what does taht even mean? that's another example of idiots tweeting bull ****.

Well, Steve Kerr probably should get a free ride on his political statements considering his dad was executed by terrorists with a shot to the head in Beirut when he was 18.

[boyst]

Well, Steve Kerr probably should get a free ride on his political statements considering his dad was executed by terrorists with a shot to the head in Beirut when he was 18.

no one gets a free ride in this country.

[MakeBuffaloGreatAgain]

no one gets a free ride in this country.

Actually, a large percentage of people get a free ride in this country. What percentage of people don't pay taxes? And how many of them are able bodied workers who refuse to find work? It's amazing how when you cut off the free ride, people are able to find jobs.

[BillsFan4]

Actually, a large percentage of people get a free ride in this country. What percentage of people don't pay taxes? And how many of them are able bodied workers who refuse to find work? It's amazing how when you cut off the free ride, people are able to find jobs.

Look up corporate welfare before you go getting mad about people not paying taxes.

 

Bet you also don't care Trump hasn't paid taxes in years. He said it himself, that he used a $918M loss in 1995 to avoid paying federal taxes for years (up to 18yrs he can use it, but he wouldn't say how long it's been and he won't release his tax returns, so...)

 

The rich get far far more tax breaks than the middle class and poor. There are some massive corporations that don't pay any taxes!

Here's a list of corporations in the US that did and didn't didn't pay federal taxes. 18 of the largest corporations in the US didn't pay any federal taxes from 2008-2015. Rhere were 100 that didn't pay any federal taxes in a single year between that time period. You are talking Billions of dollars of federal tax revenue lost from just 1 corporation alone, let alone what's lost from all of them combined over this 8 year period.

 

https://itep.org/the-35-percent-corporate-tax-myth/#.WMGvmBIrLUZ

 

 

Oh, and welfare + food stamps only cost the average tax payer around $40 dollars per year. Where as the most conservative estimate I could find on what corporate subsidies cost the average tax payer shows a cost of $2436 per average taxpayer, per year.

 

http://thefederalist.com/2013/09/30/calculating-the-real-cost-of-corporate-welfare/

[MakeBuffaloGreatAgain]

Look up corporate welfare before you go getting mad about people not paying taxes.

 

Bet you also don't care Trump hasn't paid taxes in years. He said it himself, that he used a $918M loss in 1995 to avoid paying federal taxes for years (up to 18yrs he can use it, but he wouldn't say how long it's been and he won't release his tax returns, so...)

 

The rich get far far more tax breaks than the middle class and poor. There are some massive corporations that don't pay any taxes!

Here's a list of corporations in the US that did and didn't didn't pay federal taxes. 18 of the largest corporations in the US didn't pay any federal taxes from 2008-2015. Rhere were 100 that didn't pay any federal taxes in a single year between that time period. You are talking Billions of dollars of federal tax revenue lost from just 1 corporation alone, let alone what's lost from all of them combined over this 8 year period.

 

https://itep.org/the-35-percent-corporate-tax-myth/#.WMGvmBIrLUZ

 

 

Oh, and welfare + food stamps only cost the average tax payer around $40 dollars per year. Where as the most conservative estimate I could find on what corporate subsidies cost the average tax payer shows a cost of $2436 per average taxpayer, per year.

 

http://thefederalist.com/2013/09/30/calculating-the-real-cost-of-corporate-welfare/

So you approve of keeping the black community in the ghetto. Good to know.

Look up corporate welfare before you go getting mad about people not paying taxes.

 

Bet you also don't care Trump hasn't paid taxes in years. He said it himself, that he used a $918M loss in 1995 to avoid paying federal taxes for years (up to 18yrs he can use it, but he wouldn't say how long it's been and he won't release his tax returns, so...)

 

The rich get far far more tax breaks than the middle class and poor. There are some massive corporations that don't pay any taxes!

Here's a list of corporations in the US that did and didn't didn't pay federal taxes. 18 of the largest corporations in the US didn't pay any federal taxes from 2008-2015. Rhere were 100 that didn't pay any federal taxes in a single year between that time period. You are talking Billions of dollars of federal tax revenue lost from just 1 corporation alone, let alone what's lost from all of them combined over this 8 year period.

 

https://itep.org/the-35-percent-corporate-tax-myth/#.WMGvmBIrLUZ

 

 

Oh, and welfare + food stamps only cost the average tax payer around $40 dollars per year. Where as the most conservative estimate I could find on what corporate subsidies cost the average tax payer shows a cost of $2436 per average taxpayer, per year.

 

http://thefederalist.com/2013/09/30/calculating-the-real-cost-of-corporate-welfare/

So you approve of keeping the black community in the ghetto. Good to know.

[boyst]

Actually, a large percentage of people get a free ride in this country. What percentage of people don't pay taxes? And how many of them are able bodied workers who refuse to find work? It's amazing how when you cut off the free ride, people are able to find jobs.

took that bait like a champ