thurst44 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Umm no he isn't. The President was spot on with his comments. Players have the right to protest and no one is disputing that. Their employers also have the right to fire them if their actions reflect poorly on the team. He spoke the truth. There's a BIG difference between employers having a right to fire employees and the President, the most powerful man in the country, calling for a private entity to fire its employees for having the temerity to criticize him. I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but can you really not see the difference? A leader who wants to exact revenge on those who criticize him is a weak leader, something that's very dangerous to our democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I can understand players wanting to respond to what Trump said, but I think they are making a mistake if they just embrace kneeling during the anthem. They should find a different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Kim is a lunatic dictator with absolute power and nuclear weapons. Trump thinks he's one. Acts as one. And would be one if he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Obviously, it is an English word. The point is that he has popularized calling Trump that. Yes, I got you, and even sort of agreed with you. It's just that it's too fitting a word for the man that I wish it weren't such a psychopath who used it, and wish we didn't have a president whose tremendous lexicon stretches to reach quadruple digits. That being said, it is a bit unseemly to seem to be siding with Kim Jong-un by using the arcane word he brought to our attention. So, we agree, and let's move on. We're both kind of arguing for stupid, nitpicky points now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 As much as I despise Trump, and did so decades before I had much of a hint of his politics (save for the whole kill the {eventually exonerated} Central Park Five full page ad), he's still yet to resort to murdering his enemies and we can presumably vote him out if we'd like in 2020, if he is still the President. Kim is a lunatic dictator with absolute power and nuclear weapons. Well said. Same here. But just a thought - if Trump has the same amount of power as Kim Jong Un has, how scared would you be of what he might do? Could you see him doing some of the same type of stuff? Maybe he wouldn't take it to the same level as Kin Jong Un has. But I could easily see him rounding up people and putting them in concentration camps and stuff like that. He even pardoned Joe Arpaio for doing something very similar. He wanted to kill those Central Park 5 before there was any proof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yes, I got you, and even sort of agreed with you. It's just that it's too fitting a word for the man that I wish it weren't such a psychopath who used it, and wish we didn't have a president whose tremendous lexicon stretches to reach quadruple digits. That being said, it is a bit unseemly to seem to be siding with Kim Jong-un by using the arcane word he brought to our attention. So, we agree, and let's move on. We're both kind of arguing for stupid, nitpicky points now. Yes, sorry, and I appreciated the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) There's a BIG difference between employers having a right to fire employees and the President, the most powerful man in the country, calling for a private entity to fire its employees for having the temerity to criticize him. I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but can you really not see the difference? A leader who wants to exact revenge on those who criticize him is a weak leader, something that's very dangerous to our democracy. Wait, Kaepernik was doing these protests prior to Trump. So it doesn't fit that narrative. You are full of **** Edited September 23, 2017 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Wait, Kaepernik was doing these protests prior to Trump. So it doesn't fit that narrative. You are full of **** Yep, name one time, ever, that Trump ever changed his position on something just because it benefitted him. I'll wait. Just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Trump thinks he's one. Acts as one. And would be one if he could. Do you ever get tired of pretending you know what everyone else in the world is thinking? It'd be amusing if it wasn't so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Lolol! That is awesome! Can we agree that all !@#$s are not as endearing as others? I would rather have Dennis Leary as Perez than the !@#$s we have now. God help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Lolol! That is awesome! Can we agree that all !@#$s are not as endearing as others? I would rather have Dennis Leary as Perez than the !@#$s we have now. God help us. You think you want Leary, but you really want C.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Do you ever get tired of pretending you know what everyone else in the world is thinking? It'd be amusing if it wasn't so sad. It's a fact. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalonian Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 they're driving this agenda of division. from hollywood celebs to entitled athletes dumber than rocks. there is no innocence to this. the agenda being pushed is simple and athletes are some of the stupidest people on the planet, right above kardashian level. they blindly follow what pop culture is doing for the most part. they think people care what they say. but between the coasts these idiots travel between there is a world they will never know. a much better culture where there is no division, where there is no differences which they seem to fuel, a world in which harmony is achieved daily. but that does not fit the agenda of those looking to simply be an !@#$. this is not about the president, this is simply about those who are looking to espouse the popular opinion as some elite thinker to be against an establishment. this is the liberal agenda. Huh???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Trump thinks he's one. Acts as one. And would be one if he could. Yes, probably, certainly, even -- but he's still slightly less dangerous than Kim, b/c there are options in place to remove him relatively peacefully. I've felt Trump was the worst example of an American for decades, and really wish we weren't in the darkest timeline. Right now, he's ranting and raving about a healthcare bill he knows nothing about while I'm recovering from an illness that thankfully didn't kill me (yet) but could have bankrupted me (could still from the looks of it) and it's hassle enough trying to fight infections while sorting out billing, yet he would gleefully make sure people would be ruined and/or killed because they had the misfortune of losing a job and/or working constantly yet the employer being unable to provide health insurance. He's both ignorant and mean -- the worst combo. Plus he's trying to deport hard-working students at my job, so, yeah, this has even become personal. But Kim is still worse, not that that really matters, and we probably should be careful about co-opting his insults, especially since there's many other options to call our so-called leader since our vocabularies are much stronger than his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I think if I want to remain a football fan, I'll need to start turning the TV on at ~ 1:10 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 It's a fact. Look it up. I don't think you know what facts are. Face it Kelly. We've spent years hearing what Whaley thought, what Rex thought, what XYZ thought. You. Don't. Know. Stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Trump thinks he's one. Acts as one. And would be one if he could.every president for the last 300 years has thought tbis. No but seriously at least the last dozen or so. It's scary how powerful that office has become over the last 12 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Well said. Same here. But just a thought - if Trump has the same amount of power as Kim Jong Un has, how scared would you be of what he might do? Could you see him doing some of the same type of stuff? Maybe he wouldn't take it to the same level as Kin Jong Un has. But I could easily see him rounding up people and putting them in concentration camps and stuff like that. He even pardoned Joe Arpaio for doing something very similar. He wanted to kill those Central Park 5 before there was any proof... I'm scared of what he could do now. I'm baffled that we've come to this and keep hoping I wake up to find out this was all a bad dream (and that it's Super Bowl 52 Sunday and the Bills are about to do something which will earn a visit to a president whose name is not Trump). I grew up in NYC (my family was from Lockport and i wound up going to UB during the SB years) and it was that ad that cemented him as, well to paraphrase the man himself, someone who was "not good." I wish this thread didn't exist and that McCoy would never have felt any need to respond to a man who made it very clear he has zero respect for people who do his job (seriously, who's against the NFL trying to figure out ways to make sure fewer players die young). Not sure how to end this...just saying I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yep, name one time, ever, that Trump ever changed his position on something just because it benefitted him. I'll wait. Just one. when he chose to run as a republican was a pretty neat change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 He is a big fat Chihuahua! It's funny how some people praise this man as President, says he's patriotic and for the flag and this country Hoo friggin Haa!! This same man draft dodged while countless men and women fought and died or came back disfigured. Same as Bush.....I'll stop here, just came back from being banned for running my yap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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