If Saquan Barkley really is a better NFL prospect than Zeke.

[YoloinOhio]

He’s a similar prospect on the field, better prospect off the field 

[Gugny]

I think the Giants would be nuts to not take this kid.

[YoloinOhio]

 

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Trace McSorely punched me in the ribs

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

He will go top 5. How amazing it would be to get a QB and Barkley in round 1. Browns may pull it off.

[popcornpam]

Any team that passes on  Barkley in the draft will be sorry!

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[YoloinOhio]

Gonna be a great one.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[KD in CA]

On 12/6/2017 at 11:40 PM, Dkollidas said:

I could totally see the Giants being the type of team to take him at #2 and forego a QB because they think Webb might be the guy and Eli has juice left. Just seems like something they’d do. But who knows with whoever takes over the team. 

 

Giants?  They are not often that stupid.   I don't see any way they don't draft a QB.   It's the perfect time for them.

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[NewEraBills]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

They could be correct.  But this is also lying season too, with some nuggets of truth sprinkled in.  I don't doubt he's talked with teams that don't have him in the top 7.  He doesn't indicate how many teams he's talked to.  But that's beside the point.  No team will give you their position on the QB's at this point either.  They'll indicate that they like a certain guy, but they are not going to say I have Darnold at 1, Mayfield at 2 so on and so forth.

[GunnerBill]

49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Interesting.  I have him 6th on my board at the moment but have lots more potential first rounders to fix a grade on.  I know I have said it a few times this past couple of days but I feel like this is a kinda 'meh' draft class beyond obviously a deep QB group.  

[Kirby Jackson]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

Interesting.  I have him 6th on my board at the moment but have lots more potential first rounders to fix a grade on.  I know I have said it a few times this past couple of days but I feel like this is a kinda 'meh' draft class beyond obviously a deep QB group.  

I agree with your assessment on this class. QB, RB and LB are the strengths of the class. I think that the OL is pretty good. In general though this class isn’t very deep. You know my perspective on drafting to the strength of the draft. I believe that you get better value that way. 

 

Additionally in a “lean” draft I wouldn’t hesitate to package picks to move up to a get a specific player if I liked them. This Bills team has a lot of holes but at the same time I would rather get 1 good player than 2 guys overdrafted out of need. As a small example I’d be fine taking the 2 2nds and moving to the back of the 1st to get Sony Michel. While, on paper, it may seem smarter to stand pat and get Royce Freeman and Frank Ragnow I’d rather take the guy that I think can be a star. In strong drafts the quality of players in the mid to late 50’s is equivalent to the top 30 in a lean draft. The guys that will go mid to late 50’s this year might have been a full rounder lower a year ago.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I'd sell my eternal soul to see Barkley go to the Giants. They'd actually use him properly.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I agree with your assessment on this class. QB, RB and LB are the strengths of the class. I think that the OL is pretty good. In general though this class isn’t very deep. You know my perspective on drafting to the strength of the draft. I believe that you get better value that way. 

 

Additionally in a “lean” draft I wouldn’t hesitate to package picks to move up to a get a specific player if I liked them. This Bills team has a lot of holes but at the same time I would rather get 1 good player than 2 guys overdrafted out of need. As a small example I’d be fine taking the 2 2nds and moving to the back of the 1st to get Sony Michel. While, on paper, it may seem smarter to stand pat and get Royce Freeman and Frank Ragnow I’d rather take the guy that I think can be a star. In strong drafts the quality of players in the mid to late 50’s is equivalent to the top 30 in a lean draft. The guys that will go mid to late 50’s this year might have been a full rounder lower a year ago.

 

Yea the OL at the top end is better than last year but I am not sure the depth is great there to be honest. 

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea the OL at the top end is better than last year but I am not sure the depth is great there to be honest. 

Agreed, but there are some guys that could be perennial pro bowlers (Price, Nelson) and some guys with huge ceilings (Connor Williams). There are starting caliber players there through about round 3 IMO. You are rolling the dice some once you get past there.

 

Also, out of curiosity how would you have ranked the following players coming out: Barkley, Zeke, Fournette, Gurley?

Edited January 29, 2018 by Kirby Jackson

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Agreed, but there are some guys that could be perennial pro bowlers (Price, Nelson) and some guys with huge ceilings (Connor Williams). There are starting caliber players there through about round 3 IMO. You are rolling the dice some once you get past there.

 

Also, out of curiosity how would you have ranked the following players coming out: Barkley, Zeke, Fournette, Gurley?

 

Zeke would be first I was very high on him. I would have to go back and check my final grade on Fournette last year but he and Barkley pretty close.... all top 10 grades. Gurley I had a mid 1st on.