Kirby Jackson Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: R I just don't see that. Kelvin Benjamin has been a very productive WR in this league. Jordan Mathews has as well. Zay Jones looks to be coming on as well. I do do concede that they could use a speedster, but they don't need to use a 1st or 2nd round pick on one. Watkins, Woods and Goodwin have all been more productive elsewhere this year than they were here. The lack of a QB has to be addressed before WR. i am pretty confident that a good QB would make Benjamin and Jones look much better (Mathews as well, but I expect him to leave in FA) For one that post was from September 21st (there was no Benjamin). Matthews stinks and I was right about that. Zay has struggled mightily but I believe in him. At the same time I think that he has the lowest catch percentage in the league. He has been bad. Matthews was the 4th WR with a QB in Philly (which is why they gave him away), Benjamin got traded for a 3rd rounder on a team that has a QB, Zay Jones hasn’t been good and Thompson got cut by the Bears (the only team in the league getting less WR production than the Bears is the Bills). The group is not good. They will need a #1/2 to go with Benjamin. They need Zay to develop in the slot and to bring Thompson back. WR is a big need still. Keep an eye on the separation that this group gets if you think that they are adequate. Watch how much space is between the defender and the receiver. There were times this year that the defender could have shared a jersey with Matthews. They don’t run good routes and they don’t kee safeties away from the LOS. Edited December 17, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: For one that post was from September 21st (there was no Benjamin). Matthews stinks and I was right about that. Zay has struggled mightily but I believe in him. At the same time I think that he has the lowest catch percentage in the league. He has been bad. Matthews was the 4th WR with a QB in Philly (which is why they gave him away), Benjamin got traded for a 3rd rounder on a team that has a QB, Zay Jones hasn’t been good and Thompson got cut by the Bears (the only team in the league getting less WR production than the Bears is the Bills). The group is not good. They will need a #1/2 to go with Benjamin. They need Zay to develop in the slot and to bring Thompson back. WR is a big need still. Keep an eye on the separation that this group gets if you think that they are adequate. Watch how much space is between the defender and the receiver. There were times this year that the defender could have shared a jersey with Matthews. They don’t run good routes and they don’t kee safeties away from the LOS. I wasn’t trying to attack your post. I think that Mathews hasn’t been healthy all season. He has been a quality receiver in the NFL before arriving here. In his 3 years in Philly, he had 67, 85 and 73 receptions- that is pretty good, even if “just” a possession receiver. Benjamin, as well, has been injured much of his time here, but he has shown some skills amongst the injury time. I am hoping that the Bills keep Benjamin long-term. If Zay Jones continues to improve after his rough start, I think I could live with Benjamin and Jones with someone added with speed. i think that problems getting separation have been exacerbated by the injuries the Mathews and Benjamin have been playing with. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: I wasn’t trying to attack your post. I think that Mathews hasn’t been healthy all season. He has been a quality receiver in the NFL before arriving here. In his 3 years in Philly, he had 67, 85 and 73 receptions- that is pretty good, even if “just” a possession receiver. Benjamin, as well, has been injured much of his time here, but he has shown some skills amongst the injury time. I am hoping that the Bills keep Benjamin long-term. If Zay Jones continues to improve after his rough start, I think I could live with Benjamin and Jones with someone added with speed. i think that problems getting separation have been exacerbated by the injuries the Mathews and Benjamin have been playing with. Oh I know I’m not taking it personally. Matthews hasn’t been healthy but he was still the 4th WR in Philly and we tried to pass him off as a 1. It failed. Benjamin should be a part of the future imo. He doesn’t need a ton of separation. Zay has disappointed me because I thought that he was a precise route runner with elite hands. I guess that I just didn’t see enough of him. He is neither. I still think that he was far too productive in college to play like this. He has to be in the plans. That still leaves a starting spot open. It could be someone like Paul Richardson in FA or they could take one in the first few rounds. I hope that Thompson comes back too. A group of Benjamin/new guy/Zay/Thompson and Reilly works for me. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2017 Posted December 29, 2017 Christian Kirk is on my wish list for the draft. So explosive. Crap and now he’s hurt Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 29, 2017 Posted December 29, 2017 Calvin Ridley, James Washington, Anthony Miller are at the top of my wishlist and all can be had at different points in the draft. Quote
/dev/null Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Again I admit my PSU homer bias, but I would like to see Deashawn Hamilton in a Bills uniform. And pair him up with TE Mike Gesicki Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/29/2017 at 3:45 PM, YoloinOhio said: Christian Kirk is on my wish list for the draft. So explosive. Crap and now he’s hurt Good news, this means you can always get him latter. Quote
starrymessenger Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Bills seem to like big boy receivers. I think their guy should be Marcell Ateman. He should also be available after his teammate Washington, Bama's Ridley and Anthony Miller (maybe Ateman is available with our second pick in round two) and one or two other prospects). I think he may be a better pro than Washington. He's bigger and faster. His hands are good too. He'd be a better version of Matthews. I like A. Miller a lot (maybe next Marvin Harrison) but again he is not a big guy. Of interest in his case is the importance of QB - WR chemistry. He was very good when Lynch was under centre. He was absolutely fantastic when Ferguson took over. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 The Bills need a Marquise Goodwin type WR. Someone with SPEED, hands but durable. Is there anyone like this in the draft?? I know Paris Campbell (OSU) has speed to kill, but how are his hands? Quote
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 9:44 PM, the skycap said: The Bills need a Marquise Goodwin type WR. Someone with SPEED, hands but durable. Is there anyone like this in the draft?? I know Paris Campbell (OSU) has speed to kill, but how are his hands? Add ball tracking ability to your list. That was the difference between bombs to Watkins and bombs to Goodwin. Watkins would adjust and catch it more, Goodwin needed the ball to be dropped into a bucket. Quote
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 How does the WR class look this year? Is it deep? Should the Bills use one of their 1st round picks on one or can they wait until the 2nd round? Quote
K D Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 i think the Bills want their burner deep threat. we won't know who they will want until we see some 40 times! Quote
JaCrispy Posted January 25, 2018 Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) On 12/17/2017 at 12:34 AM, NewDayBills said: I haven't really looked into all of the prospects yet but I think it's safe to say Ridley and Sutton do not make it anywhere near our pick. If Equan St. Brown was there though, I definitely think he could help us. Christian Kirk would also be a great pick in the second round. I think Kirk is an incredible player, perfect compliment to Benjamin and Zay Jones. Reminds me so much of Danny Amendola. Yes yes yes...this Bills desperately need to start drafting quick receivers similar to amendola and Edelman...those are the types of receivers that get open quickly and keep the chains moving. Edited January 25, 2018 by JaCrispy 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) I want Christian Kirk for speed and versatility and Allen Lazard from Iowa State for size and hands. Edited January 26, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I want Christian Kirk for speed and versatility and Lazard from Iowa for size and hands. Kirk would be good value. I like that he is a returner, too. Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 26, 2018 Posted January 26, 2018 On 12/30/2017 at 4:34 PM, /dev/null said: Again I admit my PSU homer bias, but I would like to see Deashawn Hamilton in a Bills uniform. And pair him up with TE Mike Gesicki I want Gesicki too! 1 Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 8:54 PM, JaCrispy said: Yes yes yes...this Bills desperately need to start drafting quick receivers similar to amendola and Edelman...those are the types of receivers that get open quickly and keep the chains moving. We had a bunch of those guys, they always got hurt. Quote
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