Brady dons the stripes

[4merper4mer]

i saw a little of the Pats* game and was watching when this happened.

 

If you ask me, it is BS. This is because the situation is either:

 

1. The referee admitted in full view of everyone that Tom Brady knew the rules better than he did or

2. He made a bad judgement call and reversed it after talking to Brady.

 

 

It simply can't be #1. It is the job of the officials to know the rules. "Oh yeah Tom I forgot" doesn't reflect well on the ref. I can be pretty sure he does not want to go into a weekly review stating that he learned a new rule that Tom Brady taught him.

 

I looked up the rule which says:

 

Note 4: There can be no pass interference at or behind the line of scrimmage, but defensive actions such as tackling a receiver can still result in a 5-yard penalty for defensive holding, if accepted.

 

 

 

Nowhere does it say "close enough" to the line of scrimmage like the article implies. That sounds an awful lot like "just give it to 'em" or in this case, Brady going to the official and saying "just give it to me". The ref has given a tacit admission of an error in judgement on a judgement call. Judgement calls happen all the time and are rarely reversed. Moreover, in this case, the film clearly shows the pick happening not at the line of scrimmage, but a full yard + downfield. So the ref's initial judgement was correct and Brady talked him out of it.

 

Can anyone honestly say that Tyrod would have gotten the same treatment? How many QBS? 3 or 4? Only stars? Only guys dating movie stars or married to supermodels? IMO stuff like this is a very bad look for the league. Rules are rules. It is completely unfair.

Edited September 20, 2017 by 4merper4mer

[MAJBobby]

It was correctly picked up after the Ref huddle. Does it violate any of these????

 

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

(c ) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

Edited September 19, 2017 by MAJBobby

[4merper4mer]

It was correctly picked up after the Ref huddle.

Based on what? Not on the rule.

[MAJBobby]

Based on what? Not on the rule.

Yes based on the rule. good you posted a rule about Defensive pass interference when talking offensive PI

 

So it was Correctly picked up

Edited September 19, 2017 by MAJBobby

[plenzmd1]

It was correctly picked up after the Ref huddle. Does it violate any of these????

 

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

 

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

 

(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

 

(c ) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

Pick plays are illegal one yard past the line of scrimmage, this was past one yard and thus illegal

[Gugny]

The Pats*, under BB, have always known the NFL rule book better than anyone on the face of the earth. They have benefitted from it numerous times and I say, good for them.

[MAJBobby]

Pick plays are illegal one yard past the line of scrimmage, this was past one yard and thus illegal

Just posted the Rule for Offensive Pass interference, but keep on the refs.

 

the LOS was inside the 13. The pick occurred at the 12, so again where is the rule violation?

Edited September 19, 2017 by MAJBobby

[plenzmd1]

Just posted the Rule for Offensive Pass interference, but keep on the refs.

 

the LOS was inside the 13. The pick occurred at the 12, so again where is the rule violation?

Here is the rule directly from the rule book

 

ARTICLE 4. OTHER PROHIBITED ACTS BY THE OFFENSE

Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference. See 8-3-1 for exception for an ineligible offensive player.

The pick (block) occurred more than one yard past the line, the refs ruled it was within one, not reviewable, end of story.

If you want to claim no pick, that is not what the refs ruled.

[Scott7975]

It was correctly picked up after the Ref huddle. Does it violate any of these????

 

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

 

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

 

(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

 

(c ) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

B a receiver shoved the defender.

[MAJBobby]

Here is the rule directly from the rule book

 

ARTICLE 4. OTHER PROHIBITED ACTS BY THE OFFENSE

Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference. See 8-3-1 for exception for an ineligible offensive player.

The pick (block) occurred more than one yard past the line, the refs ruled it was within one, not reviewable, end of story.

If you want to claim no pick, that is not what the refs ruled.

It was Jesus. the LOS was inside the 13, the pick occurred at the 12. In all worlds that is within 1 yard

B a receiver shoved the defender.

Wrong again, it was a legal pick play within 1 yard of the LOS, Brady correctly points that out, the Refs correctly huddle, the refs correctly pick up the flag

[plenzmd1]

It was Jesus. the LOS was inside the 13, the pick occurred at the 12. In all worlds that is within 1 yard

Wrong again, it was a legal pick play within 1 yard of the LOS, Brady correctly points that out, the Refs correctly huddle, the refs correctly pick up the flag

I think it is clearly past a yard, you do not. Agree to disagree on that one.

 

Think we would all agree no one wins that argument whether right or wrong unless its Brady

[MAJBobby]

I think it is clearly past a yard, you do not. Agree to disagree on that one.

 

Think we would all agree no one wins that argument whether right or wrong unless its Brady

Where is the LOS, clearly identified by the line. Inside the 13 is it not. The pick was ran at the 12 was it not?

 

It was the proper call. there is no preferential treatment here.

[plenzmd1]

Where is the LOS, clearly identified by the line. Inside the 13 is it not. The pick was ran at the 12 was it not?

 

It was the proper call. there is no preferential treatment here.

I see the tip of the ball at snap at the 13 1/2 or so, the pick at the 11. Close, i agree. Close enough I am shocked they reversed it, and was when it happened live.

 

BTW, much like the yellow not 100%, i am not using the blue line, but the placement of the ball

Edited September 19, 2017 by plenzmd1

[MAJBobby]

I see the tip of the ball at snap at the 13 1/2 or so, the pick at the 11. Close, i agree. Close enough I am shocked they reversed it, and was when it happened live.

 

BTW, much like the yellow not 100%, i am not using the blue line, but the placement of the ball

Hard to tell where the LOS are because Centers routinely move the ball closer to themselves on shotgun snaps. To me the yard marker is clearly inside the 13. Contact startered at the 12.

 

But neither here or there tie is always going to the offense in a passing league. But at the end of the day it doesnt matter.

 

NEWSFLASH to those that want to complain Superstars get calls. Happens all over the League.

[DC Tom]

And Brady's the only player in the league that can successfully argue with the refs.

[row_33]

Pick plays are illegal one yard past the line of scrimmage, this was past one yard and thus illegal

 

every top team is committing this dozens of times a game, it's like duh....

[Jasovon]

The rules are relaxed for the superstars to allow for more highlights and ratings.

 

Don't like it? Get more superstars on your team so you get the same treatment.

[MAJBobby]

Julio Jones does the same exact play Holmes did at least three times a game is he ever called?

[Scott7975]

Julio Jones does the same exact play Holmes did at least three times a game is he ever called?

One out of ten times maybe.

[MAJBobby]

One out of ten times maybe.

Exactly. Not to mention the Carolina CB complained a couple tines about OPI. And Boom got a call. I wouldnt call Carolina CBs superstars either