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Dustin Fox actually played for the Bills about 10-12 years ago. I think he was one of the last white CB in the NFL.

Now that you mention it, a light bulb just sparked over my head and I think I have heard about his radio show. Totally forgot he's a buffalo guy.

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'FNX was a legendary station. I'm jealous.

Sure was. I was there not at the end, but during the initial death throes. Steve Mindich held on as long as he could. I'm pretty sure FNX was the very last independently owned alternative rock station in a major US market.

 

I wasn't a staple on air or anything, but I did a few things trying to work my way up while also working on the street team. This was the early 2000s when satellite radio was cranking up, conglomerates were buying stations left and right, and career prospects in terrestrial radio went from bad to worse. After a few years I bailed for things like health insurance and getting married. I don't regret it, but I do miss it.

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Maybe I'm in the minority, but apart from Murphy's sponsored content, I like all of the shows.

 

Some people want extensive X's and O's football talk...well that would make for very boring listening and turn away the majority of us. Some people want only football, others only hockey... you can't please everyone. If you don't like the shows don't listen.

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I listen to Howard and Jeremy here and there. I don't think Howard is that bad, seems like his role is keeping the show moving forward and making statements that open up the floor for responses. Jeremy gets a little self-righteous and condescending at times. Schopp and the Bulldog are rough. I've heard them hang up on callers just because they disagreed and one time Schopp cut some kid off for "taking a shot at his guy." The caller said he had called into talk with Howard and Jeremy, Jeremy disagreed with his take and the kid mentioned that to Schopp and as he was talking Schopp suddenly jumped in and ended the call like, "Nah, you can't take a shot at my guy and expect me to listen to you." It was a little ridiculous.

 

I try to understand the position these dudes are in. Most of the calls they get are pretty bad from people who really don't have a very good opinion so it's natural that they disagree and get frustrated. What gets old is that whenever they are met with a caller who has a decent take, they get flustered by it and instead of debating they just keep pushing their own points.

 

It is what it is, whatever. I actually don't mind Murph and DJ because you know what to expect with them. Yeah, Murph wears on you with the company line stuff but DJ has good insight when it comes to on the field stuff and will share some good insider stories now and then.

yep Jeremy and Schopp need to go imo. get some people that know football in there. is that really asking too much?

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yep Jeremy and Schopp need to go imo. get some people that know football in there. is that really asking too much?

I don't understand the "does not know football" comment. Explain that to me. Give me some examples of what you mean.

 

He readily admits he was never a coach etc, but he does start to spot trends and problems before most.

 

 

8 games into TT career, he was calling out the lack of throws over the middle, lack of anticipation throws, lack of awareness etc..this when everyone else was heaping praises on TT(me included)

He has been all over the "TT does not fir this offense" since early summer, and really been harping on it since the Watkins trade. I know early, but so far appears to be the case.

 

I admit I like Jeremy cause he tends to think outside traditional sports axioms, and I have been that way for 30 years.

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I don't understand the "does not know football" comment. Explain that to me. Give me some examples of what you mean.

 

He readily admits he was never a coach etc, but he does start to spot trends and problems before most.

 

 

8 games into TT career, he was calling out the lack of throws over the middle, lack of anticipation throws, lack of awareness etc..this when everyone else was heaping praises on TT(me included)

He has been all over the "TT does not fir this offense" since early summer, and really been harping on it since the Watkins trade. I know early, but so far appears to be the case.

 

I admit I like Jeremy cause he tends to think outside traditional sports axioms, and I have been that way for 30 years.

you said it yourself. never played, never coached. Howard is the host and then often you have an analyst with the host to explain things and answer questions. what gets me upset is that he admittedly doesn't know much but he makes up his mind about certain things and then if anyone disagrees he gets loud and talks over them and then hangs up. if he was more humble and said i think it could be this but let's hear what the listeners think then that would be one thing. he is very self righteous. Schopp does the same stuff. as a fan of football i would greatly prefer someone who has played, a former Bill perhaps

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For the most part I enjoy the morning show. Howard can be brutal quite a bit but I like Jeremy and think he makes a lot of good points.

 

Schopp and Bulldog can be entertaining and terrible at times.

 

The best is their post game show. That's very entertaining to listen to with all the hot takes.

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I like Jeremy alot of the time, he makes some good intelligent points. But when he forms an opinion on something, he does everything to prove his point right and fit his agenda over time. It gets a little annoying. He is a proponent of tanking and I can't stand the concept of tanking. From day 1 he didn't like Tyrod...and all his commentaries over time continue to be critical of him. I mean Tyrod had a terrible game in the road opener last season, then he strung together some good games....like most QB's he's up and down...but he had some real solid games last season. This year they trade Sammy, his security blanket (Woods) leaves and they get rid of their RB2 right at cut down day. He's saddled with Dennisons terrible offense. We'll see how it all shakes out. Maybe Jeremy will get his wish and the Bills season tanks.

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These guy both talk about the chiefs and Alex smith like they are terrible every year. The other day They were talking about the chiefs Pats opener and Jeremy kept saying what happened, I didn't see it? These guys speak about players and teams as if they haven't ever seen any of them. It's not a thing where you can just point to 1 thing to show they don't know sports. When you listen, it just jumps out.

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These guy both talk about the chiefs and Alex smith like they are terrible every year. The other day They were talking about the chiefs Pats opener and Jeremy kept saying what happened, I didn't see it? These guys speak about players and teams as if they haven't ever seen any of them. It's not a thing where you can just point to 1 thing to show they don't know sports. When you listen, it just jumps out.

none of this is remotely true.

 

 

"Jim Rome hasnt been relevant in years, can we talk about him to?"

you said it yourself. never played, never coached. Howard is the host and then often you have an analyst with the host to explain things and answer questions. what gets me upset is that he admittedly doesn't know much but he makes up his mind about certain things and then if anyone disagrees he gets loud and talks over them and then hangs up. if he was more humble and said i think it could be this but let's hear what the listeners think then that would be one thing. he is very self righteous. Schopp does the same stuff. as a fan of football i would greatly prefer someone who has played, a former Bill perhaps

Sports radio is not about talking X's and O's and shifting o-line reads and the in-depth etc etc, if that is what you are looking for. Sports radio is entertainment for the masses, the masses want to talk about QB play and critical moments.

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I live in Atlanta, and quite enjoy the morning sports show, The Rude Awakening. Maybe it's because I've been living in Atlanta for the past 11 years, but I would say it's just as good as Buffalo's sports radio programming as a whole. I've also lived in the DC Metro area (Alexandria Virginia), Charlotte NC, Pittsburgh, and New Orleans. I would rate Buffalo's sports radio higher than all of them...

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I suggest everyone that is so upset with WGR morning and afternoon shows critiquing the bills (justifiably) should listen to John Murphey's show which is a good 2 hours of promoting the company line and "everything is fine" talk

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i feel bad for all those wgr guys...what can you say for hours about the bills??

id just talk sabres lol

 

 

I feel bad for all those wgr guys...what can you say for hours about the Sabres??

I'd just talk about the Cleveland Indians.

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They are easily the 2 worst people on any sports related show in the country. Neither one of them know a thing about sports. The one guy tries to be funny or edgy, but knows so little about sports it's painful. Then the other guy Howard, makes Steve Urkle look like Steve Austin. When Jeremy says anything that is his idea of an interesting fact, Howard will just say oh wow I would have expected it to be blank...when it's clear to everyone that neither guy has watched a sporting event in 20 years. How can that station not do better then these guys ? When they do the trivia, some of the answers they miss and give are fireable offenses in their line of work.

 

 

I couldn't disagree more. I live in the range of NYC and I can't stand most of those guys, but when you grow up with professional sports radio stations...it's pathetic to listen to the WGR morning show. They literally know nothing about sports . They don't even watch the games that they talk about. I can't speak first hand about Indy or Cleveland, but Howard and Jeremy are the 2 worst I have ever heard.

 

I don't want to make any assumptions about your travels, or what you have heard out there...But these takes are not even remotely close to being true...In fact they could not be farther from the truth...

 

That is not to say Howard and Jeremy are perfect...or even above average...But the worst? Um...No way...And I'd bet just about anything Howard Simon has watched more sports in his time then you will ever watch times 10...Howard is older now, and he also gets up at like 3 AM every morning...But he tapes important games and watches them when he gets up most of the time...He can't watch everything...No one can...But he certainly watches almost every Bills or Sabres game...For sure...And Jeremy is an absolute sports junkie...You would be hard pressed to find a game, especially any Sabres or Bills game, that he did not watch in full...He's an all-22 junkie too...Not sure what you're talking about there...

 

Disagree with their takes all you want...I do plenty...There is PLENTY to disagree with...On all the WGR shows...But don't go out of your way to make stuff up just because you don't like them...It takes away from your argument...And further pulls this board down...Which seems to be a regular thing nowadays... B-)

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I tune in early this morning for some Bills coverage to hear Jeremy say this, and I quote "This offense is exactly what we thought they probably might be". Wow, with insight and analytical capabilities like that, I'm shocked that ESPN hasn't gobbled him up!

BLZFAN4LIFE when the Coach explains his offensive philosophy before the season starts as running the ball because you play in Buffalo, what do you expect?

 

Jeremy White and Schopp are right. We have yet another Head Coach who is obsessed with Field Position, Special Teams and running the ball. And yet again our passing game is among the weakest in the league.

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They went on and on today about the offense not able to do anything with sammy gone. Do they realize Tyrod avg 24pts game and Sammy missed 8 of those 15 games? And offense played well at Seattle scoring 25 while ending the game on the 5 yrd line with no Sammy !!

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You're probably going to have to wait 7-10 years, or else set up a remote site for him to broadcast from.

 

Why so negative? We just need to be creative......

At least he would bring some good ticket giveaway contests and provide up to date point spreads.

 

Ah, here we go.

 

Carton and Howard and Jeremy in the Morning

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Shut this baby down. *yawn

You tell Original poster if they dont like WGR turn the station - yet you now feel compelled to reply to this thread that you feel is a yawn to you? Move on to another thread - good advice you gave yourself !!

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