Bill from NYC Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure what's outlandish about asking for opinions on a potential roster move that probably won't happen. Thought it would be a good change of pace instead of the standard "Tyrod sucks" or "Fire our front office after 2 games" posts. But !@#$ me for asking questions on a message board. No. it's all good..... The thing that seems to be hard for you and many others to accept is that Dareus, with his crazy contract, serious behavioral issues, and perhaps limited production, is not an asset. In fact, in terms of trade value he is all but worthless. Smith is often slighted on this board when being discussed but imo he is a good quarterback. What NFL team would be dumb enough to give up a good quarterback for Dareus and inherit that salary, those contract clauses, and his off field antics? Sad but true. Edited September 20, 2017 by Bill from NYC
3rdand12 Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 Replace Richards with the commonly known nickname for Rich. lol ! Thanks for the morning laugh !
baskingridgebillsfan Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 they will probably cut him in the offseason. wouldn't be shocked if he is the starter here next year
reddogblitz Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 they will probably cut him in the offseason. wouldn't be shocked if he is the starter here next year I disagree. Most smart football coaches will roll with a really good QB for as long as they can. Only on TBD are fans clamoring to get the untested rook into real games. They make the playoffs every year and Alex is a big part of it. This would get a Billesque move (dumping Flutie to keep RJ) which probably means other teams are too smart to do that. But us getting Alex as our starting QB next year works for me!
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Two questions. Why in the world would KC entertain trading him when the team is likely headed back to the playoffs again after the season? Why would the Bills want a 34 year old QB with so much work to be done to rebuild the roster? The mind boggles. KC is 2-0. They've scored 69 pts to Oak 71, 2nd in the NFL right now. 2nd to the Patriots in yards. Smith has thrown 5 TDs and 0 picks. He has played well. They would trade him, why exactly?
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 The mind boggles. KC is 2-0. They've scored 69 pts to Oak 71, 2nd in the NFL right now. 2nd to the Patriots in yards. Smith has thrown 5 TDs and 0 picks. He has played well. They would trade him, why exactly? They simply aren't.
ChanOverChin Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 A. Smith is a very good QB. If we could get him for a R3 pick next year it would be a steal. KC is going to want to start their R1 QB next year. We have nine draft picks for 2018 and ten draft picks for 2019. The Bills are likely to use at least some of those picks to trade for veteran players to fill obvious holes. The Bills could end up with R1 2018 pick Josh Rosen, Alex Smith, and Nate Peterman at QB next year. That would sure be a nice improvement over what they have now.
Simon Says Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Assuming KC would even consider this...Dareus AND a 2nd? Way too much. A DT in his prime for a 34 year old QB? Pus, the cap considerations ? Switching QB's during the season?
JohnC Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 What if we don't get the #1 pick though? If option #1 isn't available then go to option #2. If option #2 isn't available then go to option #3. If option #3 isn't available then go to option #4. Just because you can't get your preferred option that doesn't mean that you can't still get a good qb. There should be nearly half a dozen good qb prospects in this draft. With some of our added picks we should be in a good position to get one of them. Especially with the qb position it's not unusual that your lesser ranked player turns out to be better than your highly ranked player. Let's not make the pursuit of perfect be the enemy of the good.
Chuck Wagon Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I'd trade White and the Chiefs 1st round pick this year for Patrick Mahomes....
Wayne Arnold Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I'd trade White and the Chiefs 1st round pick this year for Patrick Mahomes.... I'm glad you're not Bills GM.
SaviorPeterman Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Alex Smith has been playing well for KC, but they have his replacement already on the roster. What would you give up to obtain him, or would you not bother and plan on drafting one next year? I would think Dareus and a 2nd day pick could be enough to grab him, but would it be worth it long term? I think the better plan would be to draft our own franchise QB next year and have him compete with Peterman for the starting job in 2018. But if Alex Smith was a fallback option he's proved that at minimum he can be the ultimate game manager QB and is everything Taylor isn't in terms of actually being able to throw the ball with precision and accuracy, and even make plays with his legs. Don't see anybody stupid enough to take Dareus contract though especially Andy Reid and John Dorsey who are among the top HC/GM combos in the league, if not the best right now.
Freddie's Dead Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Nothing. I want the NUMBER ONE QB on Brandon Beane's board. That's the mission and the goal this year. Everything else is irrelevant. Want this crap to end once and for all? Get a franchise guy under center here next year and upgrade the line. This defense is ready now to win. Missing piece is QB and RT. And LT, RG, WR....
simool Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Pound for pound Bills fans must produce more ludicrous hypothetical questions on message boards than any other fan base. Talk about an exercise in futility. FFS. Edited September 21, 2017 by simool
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Talk about spinning your wheels. Draft a qb high! I'd trade White and the Chiefs 1st round pick this year for Patrick Mahomes.... Haha. Time will tell on Mahomes. It if develops and we don't get a franchise qb, oh man that would be awful. No. it's all good..... The thing that seems to be hard for you and many others to accept is that Dareus, with his crazy contract, serious behavioral issues, and perhaps limited production, is not an asset. In fact, in terms of trade value he is all but worthless. Smith is often slighted on this board when being discussed but imo he is a good quarterback. What NFL team would be dumb enough to give up a good quarterback for Dareus and inherit that salary, those contract clauses, and his off field antics? Sad but true. A team that isn't one of the worst in the NFL, who hopes Dareus will buy into their "culture." His contract makes him very untradeable. But don't kid yourself. He will find a new team very quickly if we cut him. He is a very talented football player.
MarkyMannn Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Alex Smith has been playing well for KC, but they have his replacement already on the roster. What would you give up to obtain him, or would you not bother and plan on drafting one next year? I would think Dareus and a 2nd day pick could be enough to grab him, but would it be worth it long term? Here's a different spin. Why would anyone want Dareus?
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Here's a different spin. Why would anyone want Dareus? Because he has all pro ability and had a similar sack pace as Warren Sapp before Rex came. Edited September 21, 2017 by C.Biscuit97
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