26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 ESPN: Rams went away from Sammy Watkins, Todd Gurley in loss to Seahawks The Rams offense stalled for long stretches against Seattle, as they were unable to utilize their two best offensive weapons.
dave mcbride Posted October 9, 2017 Author Posted October 9, 2017 This could be a huge contradiction of terms. Many people ARE arguing that HE WAS the reason that Whaley didn't exercise the 5th year option and then Beane traded him. Gerry: Not sure what you mean by this. Whaley was effectively neutered and had no say over what to do with Watkins' option, right? Or am I misreading?
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 6 targets in last 2 games, on the sidelines at crunch time... has me wondering if that means, comparatively speaking, Sammy now has a job that is ... "little"?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 6 targets in last 2 games, on the sidelines at crunch time... has me wondering if that means, comparatively speaking, Sammy now has a job that is ... "little"?
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Alden Gonzalez ESPN Staff Writer Jared Goff spoke to Sammy Watkins about pulling up midway through his deep route. "He was a little bit confused on what we were doing," Goff said. "It's nothing that can't be fixed overnight. It's not characteristic from him at all. I don't expect that to happen."
dave mcbride Posted October 9, 2017 Author Posted October 9, 2017 Alden Gonzalez ESPN Staff Writer Jared Goff spoke to Sammy Watkins about pulling up midway through his deep route. "He was a little bit confused on what we were doing," Goff said. "It's nothing that can't be fixed overnight. It's not characteristic from him at all. I don't expect that to happen." Kind of a backhanded knock on Watkins there - basically stating that he knew Watkins gave up on the play (which he did). Not to excuse Watkins, but he was at least double- and sorta triple-covered on the play.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Kind of a backhanded knock on Watkins there - basically stating that he knew Watkins gave up on the play (which he did). Not to excuse Watkins, but he was at least double- and sorta triple-covered on the play. He definitely quit on the route and must have been thinking that Goff wasn't coming to him. Has to run hard all the way to the end of the route regardless. I watched the end of the game and Sammy was in during the final stretches of the game when the Rams were trying to win the game.
Magox Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 6 targets in last 2 games, on the sidelines at crunch time... Being on the sidelines during important stretches of the game I believe is yet another piece of the puzzle. Why would he not be out there in 3 WR set formations in the 4th quarter when they desperately needed to get some points? Was he injured? Was he not best suited to run those routes? Was he gassed? Or was it simply they had more confidence in their other receivers for those plays at that time?
oldmanfan Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 He definitely quit on the route and must have been thinking that Goff wasn't coming to him. Has to run hard all the way to the end of the route regardless. I watched the end of the game and Sammy was in during the final stretches of the game when the Rams were trying to win the game. Yeah but didn't contribute. I didn't like the Sammy trade but you have to admit this is odd. If he truly is an elite type guy he should be getting a lot more looks.
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Being on the sidelines during important stretches of the game I believe is yet another piece of the puzzle. Why would he not be out there in 3 WR set formations in the 4th quarter when they desperately needed to get some points? Was he injured? Was he not best suited to run those routes? Was he gassed? Or was it simply they had more confidence in their other receivers for those plays at that time? i don't know but the would be GW TD pass went to Cooper Kupp, who should have caught it. I think that's Goff's boy. Woods is his second favorite. From what we've seen if Sammy when he was here, I think he makes that catch. Edited October 9, 2017 by YoloinOhio
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Yeah but didn't contribute. I didn't like the Sammy trade but you have to admit this is odd. If he truly is an elite type guy he should be getting a lot more looks. Only two games with 5+ targets. Guess they're still trying to figure things out.
BADOLBILZ Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 He definitely quit on the route and must have been thinking that Goff wasn't coming to him. Has to run hard all the way to the end of the route regardless. I watched the end of the game and Sammy was in during the final stretches of the game when the Rams were trying to win the game. Goff needs to get over his Sherman-itis if he is going to win in that division. Tyrod and Watkins ground up the "still elite" Revis and put him in the freezer in the finale of the 2015 season.........and Revis came out freezer burned in 2016.
boyst Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 I'm signing up for Twitter tonight just to tweet this !@#$ and his lttle job, and what he ain't doing. Bum
Rico Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 I'm signing up for Twitter tonight just to tweet this !@#$ and his lttle job, and what he ain't doing. Bum I dont have a Twitter account, please repost the funnier ones here,
sir andrew Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 He's taking the double teams so Bob Woods can get all the catches.
Magox Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Goff needs to get over his Sherman-itis if he is going to win in that division. Tyrod and Watkins ground up the "still elite" Revis and put him in the freezer in the finale of the 2015 season.........and Revis came out freezer burned in 2016. What are Sammy's life time stats vs the Patriots?
dave mcbride Posted October 9, 2017 Author Posted October 9, 2017 What are Sammy's life time stats vs the Patriots? 14 catches for 183 yards in four games - 3.5 catches per game, 46 ypg, and 13.1 ypc. Extrapolated over a season, it's 56 catches for 732 yards and 4 TDs.
GG Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Gerry: Not sure what you mean by this. Whaley was effectively neutered and had no say over what to do with Watkins' option, right? Or am I misreading? We can debate forever about how much power Whaley still had in February, but the bottom line is that the team decided to move on from Sammy at that time and pulled the trigger in August. Those decisions aren't made without Pegula's blessing. So when a trade occurs that doesn't make any football sense, you have to look behind the scenes for the real reason. So far, Sammy's production in LA is showing why the Bills were down on him, and if you believe what Boyst has been intimating, much more will come out in due time.
dave mcbride Posted October 9, 2017 Author Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) We can debate forever about how much power Whaley still had in February, but the bottom line is that the team decided to move on from Sammy at that time and pulled the trigger in August. Those decisions aren't made without Pegula's blessing. So when a trade occurs that doesn't make any football sense, you have to look behind the scenes for the real reason. So far, Sammy's production in LA is showing why the Bills were down on him, and if you believe what Boyst has been intimating, much more will come out in due time. That may welll be the case, but I do dispute the idea that Whaley had any power after McDermott was hired. He was kept on to ensure the smooth running of the draft, and had no say beyond that. That's my take and I'm stickin' to it, at least with regard to Whaley. Re: Sammy, you've been saying a version of the above for a while, and I think that you may well be right (not saying it was the right decision to move him, btw - that's a separate issue). Edited October 9, 2017 by dave mcbride
Rico Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 That may welll be the case, but I do dispute the idea that Whaley had any power after McDermott was hired. He was kept on to ensure the smooth running of the draft, and had no say beyond that. That's my take and I'm stickin' to it, at least with regard to Whaley. Agreed, but I would say he had no real power after THE press conference, everything after that was just for show.
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