McDermott's Subplot Emerging?

[theRalph]

We all saw the preseason. All of the preseason caveats notwithstanding, there was a prevailing thought that Nathan Peterman looked better in the offense than Tyrod. It was apparent Peterman got the ball out faster. He was poised. He seemed to process the defenses he faced much more quickly than Taylor.

 

We all saw the game yesterday. Taylor does not process quickly. We never saw a three-step drop and immediate throw. We could see his hesitation. We could see how late his throws to the outside were - he was nearly intercepted on two occasions.

 

Opponents know this and in response load up against the run. The counter play to this is to throw quickly. It's been called setting up the run with the pass. We've heard so much about the Bills having no receiving threats. I've grown weary of this. These are NFL receivers and an effective short passing game is possible with a quarterback that can see the field and process options. And why not throw long? Taylor did just that to an OPEN Zay Jones at the end of the game...right at the critical point the Panthers would have needed to defense a long throw.

 

McDermott, as a first-year head coach, is not interested in tanking. He really can't. Had they decided to start Peterman in week one (with a healthy Tyrod) it would have appeared to be a tank. The only reasonable way to insert Peterman is for Tyrod to play himself out of the position. With an offense that's decidedly not Tyrod Taylor's style, that seems to be what's taking place. It looks like a subplot.

 

Peterman starting may occur sooner than later. McDermott cannot possibly want to waste what appears to be a top defense. McDermott needs to see Peterman play to determine his viability. The change is coming soon.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

IN!

[SDS]

IN!

 

Please stop doing this. The "IN" posts do not contribute to the community at all and are even worse than someone's honest attempt at discussing a topic. Thanks.

[PolishDave]

We all saw the preseason. All of the preseason caveats notwithstanding, there was a prevailing thought that Nathan Peterman looked better in the offense than Tyrod. It was apparent Peterman got the ball out faster. He was poised. He seemed to process the defenses he faced much more quickly than Taylor.

 

We all saw the game yesterday. Taylor does not process quickly. We never saw a three-step drop and immediate throw. We could see his hesitation. We could see how late his throws to the outside were - he was nearly intercepted on two occasions.

 

Opponents know this and in response load up against the run. The counter play to this is to throw quickly. It's been called setting up the run with the pass. We've heard so much about the Bills having no receiving threats. I've grown weary of this. These are NFL receivers and an effective short passing game is possible with a quarterback that can see the field and process options. And why not throw long? Taylor did just that to an OPEN Zay Jones at the end of the game...right at the critical point the Panthers would have needed to defense a long throw.

 

McDermott, as a first-year head coach, is not interested in tanking. He really can't. Had they decided to start Peterman in week one (with a healthy Tyrod) it would have appeared to be a tank. The only reasonable way to insert Peterman is for Tyrod to play himself out of the position. With an offense that's decidedly not Tyrod Taylor's style, that seems to be what's taking place. It looks like a subplot.

 

Peterman starting may occur sooner than later. McDermott cannot possibly want to waste what appears to be a top defense. McDermott needs to see Peterman play to determine his viability. The change is coming soon.

 

 

So you are suggesting that McDermott intentionally setup Tyrod to fail and is now hoping Tyrod fails so the Bills lose games - so then he can play Peterman?

 

If you honestly think that - then I think you are guano.

Edited September 18, 2017 by PolishDave

[SaviorPeterman]

I also believe a change is imminent despite McD's predictable canned remarks today at the press conference and insisting Taylor is the guy.

 

No way he will stick with Taylor after what is about to happen against the Broncos and Falcons and we are sitting at 1-3. Any momentum this regime has will be up in flames if they stick with Taylor much longer especially since they have no ties to him and he's a Whaley guy.

[QB Bills]

We all saw the preseason. All of the preseason caveats notwithstanding, there was a prevailing thought that Nathan Peterman looked better in the offense than Tyrod. It was apparent Peterman got the ball out faster. He was poised. He seemed to process the defenses he faced much more quickly than Taylor.

 

We all saw the game yesterday. Taylor does not process quickly. We never saw a three-step drop and immediate throw. We could see his hesitation. We could see how late his throws to the outside were - he was nearly intercepted on two occasions.

 

Opponents know this and in response load up against the run. The counter play to this is to throw quickly. It's been called setting up the run with the pass. We've heard so much about the Bills having no receiving threats. I've grown weary of this. These are NFL receivers and an effective short passing game is possible with a quarterback that can see the field and process options. And why not throw long? Taylor did just that to an OPEN Zay Jones at the end of the game...right at the critical point the Panthers would have needed to defense a long throw.

 

McDermott, as a first-year head coach, is not interested in tanking. He really can't. Had they decided to start Peterman in week one (with a healthy Tyrod) it would have appeared to be a tank. The only reasonable way to insert Peterman is for Tyrod to play himself out of the position. With an offense that's decidedly not Tyrod Taylor's style, that seems to be what's taking place. It looks like a subplot.

 

Peterman starting may occur sooner than later. McDermott cannot possibly want to waste what appears to be a top defense. McDermott needs to see Peterman play to determine his viability. The change is coming soon.

 

Or, he could have just started Peterman from the outset, seeing as he's the coach.

 

 

Please stop doing this. The "IN" posts do not contribute to the community at all and are even worse than someone's honest attempt at discussing a topic. Thanks.

Thank you! This practice is so annoying.

[billsredneck1]

i sure hope it happens before 2-6 or something like that. if before and there's a spark and a couple of w's, who knows?....plus it could get tt to up his game. if it;s after that point, like evey other year, we'll be discussing the draft at thanksgiving.

[hemma]

The Cyberdine Systems Model 101 has a painfully slow CPU.

[cd1]

If he waits too long, before he puts Peterman in, he runs the risk of his stellar defense losing HEART.

 

Get-er-done McD!

[offyourocker]

We all saw the preseason. All of the preseason caveats notwithstanding, there was a prevailing thought that Nathan Peterman looked better in the offense than Tyrod. It was apparent Peterman got the ball out faster. He was poised. He seemed to process the defenses he faced much more quickly than Taylor.

 

We all saw the game yesterday. Taylor does not process quickly. We never saw a three-step drop and immediate throw. We could see his hesitation. We could see how late his throws to the outside were - he was nearly intercepted on two occasions.

 

Opponents know this and in response load up against the run. The counter play to this is to throw quickly. It's been called setting up the run with the pass. We've heard so much about the Bills having no receiving threats. I've grown weary of this. These are NFL receivers and an effective short passing game is possible with a quarterback that can see the field and process options. And why not throw long? Taylor did just that to an OPEN Zay Jones at the end of the game...right at the critical point the Panthers would have needed to defense a long throw.

 

McDermott, as a first-year head coach, is not interested in tanking. He really can't. Had they decided to start Peterman in week one (with a healthy Tyrod) it would have appeared to be a tank. The only reasonable way to insert Peterman is for Tyrod to play himself out of the position. With an offense that's decidedly not Tyrod Taylor's style, that seems to be what's taking place. It looks like a subplot.

 

Peterman starting may occur sooner than later. McDermott cannot possibly want to waste what appears to be a top defense. McDermott needs to see Peterman play to determine his viability. The change is coming soon.

 

 

I had the same exact thought 10 minutes ago. Either that or they are too stupid to play to Taylor's strength. I hope it is the former.

[ndirish1978]

TT doesn't get yanked unless the playoffs are out of reach. You'd lose the vets if you bench Tyrod regardless of how he plays because you're essentially admitting the season is over. Peterman is not a worldbeater, of he were he would have won the job in training camp. When and if our season is officially over you may as well start the rookie to see how good he is while preparing to draft a QB in rd1. We'll not get the top QB in this draft, but I'm fine with #2. The Jets will have the top pick in the draft and won't trade out of that spot.

[grb]

We all saw the preseason. All of the preseason caveats notwithstanding, there was a prevailing thought that Nathan Peterman looked better in the offense than Tyrod. It was apparent Peterman got the ball out faster. He was poised. He seemed to process the defenses he faced much more quickly than Taylor.

 

 

There are four problems with this :

 

(1) Peterson's camp and preseason was mediocre at best.

 

(2) Peterson's preseason was almost all against the twos & threes. Granted, he was also playing with the twos & threes, but that's why preseason performance is such a crapshoot.

 

(3) Peterson was sheltered in preseason in a way Taylor wasn't. Taylor's reps weren't geared towards producing yardage or points, but basic mechanics. For instance, look at how often TT was in the shotgun vs NP. Also, they didn't run anything like the offense in the preseason. The coaches noted that several times.

 

(4) It's not a question of comparing Peterson's preseason with Taylor's. The latter has two seasons starting real games that mean something. That's the point of comparison with NP. And Taylor's real-season record easily - repeat easily - beats out anything Peterson showed so far.

Edited September 18, 2017 by grb

[100DollarBills]

The Cyberdine Systems Model 101 has a painfully slow CPU.

You just can't go around killing people.

[Kelly the Dog]

You just can't go around killing people.

As Alaska Darin once said, the only reason most people are alive is because it's illegal to kill them.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

We all saw the preseason. All of the preseason caveats notwithstanding, there was a prevailing thought that Nathan Peterman looked better in the offense than Tyrod. It was apparent Peterman got the ball out faster. He was poised. He seemed to process the defenses he faced much more quickly than Taylor.

 

We all saw the game yesterday. Taylor does not process quickly. We never saw a three-step drop and immediate throw. We could see his hesitation. We could see how late his throws to the outside were - he was nearly intercepted on two occasions.

 

Opponents know this and in response load up against the run. The counter play to this is to throw quickly. It's been called setting up the run with the pass. We've heard so much about the Bills having no receiving threats. I've grown weary of this. These are NFL receivers and an effective short passing game is possible with a quarterback that can see the field and process options. And why not throw long? Taylor did just that to an OPEN Zay Jones at the end of the game...right at the critical point the Panthers would have needed to defense a long throw.

 

McDermott, as a first-year head coach, is not interested in tanking. He really can't. Had they decided to start Peterman in week one (with a healthy Tyrod) it would have appeared to be a tank. The only reasonable way to insert Peterman is for Tyrod to play himself out of the position. With an offense that's decidedly not Tyrod Taylor's style, that seems to be what's taking place. It looks like a subplot.

 

Peterman starting may occur sooner than later. McDermott cannot possibly want to waste what appears to be a top defense. McDermott needs to see Peterman play to determine his viability. The change is coming soon.

 

 

I'm trying to understand the train of thought here, but I'm afraid it's just run off the rails.

 

McDermott isn't interested in tanking, so he's starting Taylor in an offense that doesn't suit him so that he'll play himself out of the starting position so McDermott (now having built up several losses while Taylor plays in a system that doesn't suit him) can pull Taylor for Peterman, a rookie QB, who may or may not prove able to play in the NFL?

 

SMH

 

McDermott does not need to play Peterman to "prove his viability". If the Bills don't draft a QB next year regardless of how well or poorly either current QB plays, they are simply not investing enough resources in the position.

[jaybee]

My thought is start Tyrod for a maximum of 3 more games. If he doesn't improve significantly (which seems unlikely) then hand the keys over to Nate at the bye week. Let him participate with the starters for two weeks. Then start him for the remainder of the season. Lets see what we have. Its entirely possible he becomes our franchise guy. If not, its clear what direction we take next spring.

 

EDIT: I route hard for Tyrod but the more I watch, the more I conclude his ceiling has been reached.

Edited September 18, 2017 by jaybee

[SDS]

 

So you are suggesting that McDermott intentionally setup Tyrod to fail and is now hoping Tyrod fails so the Bills lose games - so then he can play Peterman?

 

If you honestly think that - then I think you are guano.

I think this falls in the same category with those who said Ralph Wilson was tearing down to the team so he could move/sell it, ignoring the fact that he could have moved or sold it regardless.

[r00tabaga]

Robert Woods is !@#$ing crazy!

[BuffaloBillyG]

It's amazing how many viable NFL starting QBs the Buffalo Bills have had on the roster over the years that just sat as 2nd team. Wasted away because coaches didn't realize what they had. Right now Brohm would be leading the charge for the 6th Lombardi if only these coaches would stop their shenanigans.

[thunderingsquid]

There is a LOT of speculation here, OP.

 

I'll believe it when I see TT benched but it won't be in week 3. I'll have crow ready for dinner if you are right though. Nothing is certain or set in stone with Team McBeane.

Edited September 18, 2017 by thunderingsquid