Billsmovinup Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Lawson/Poyer/Hughes really stood out to me this game The whole d played great Poyer has been outstanding. Could be the best FA signing to date in the league.
transplantbillsfan Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Blaming an offensive performance like this on playcalling is lacking an understanding of football. The Bills made some adjustments at halftime and started moving TT around a bit. Still, not enough guys won their matchups. Why dint the plays that were called work? Is it because the Bills didn't " trick ' em" enough? Or because guys didn't win matchups and the QB held the ball too long or just plain wouldn't throw it. We'll need to see the all-22. But the Bills lost because they couldn't make plays, not because they didn't call the right ones. Totally crap. You're basically saying playcalling plays no role. That's utterly wrong. When I said "run, run, pass" that's just a general euphemism for the predictable offense we had today. That predictably was mainly due to the offensive formations. I'd love to see a breakdown of % of plays by formation, particularly the I-formation. Sure, players didn't win battles, but when you rush for a net of barely positive yardage (4 or 5 yards) on handoffs to the RB on first downs PLUS negative yardage (-1 yard, I believe) the handful of times you decided to run it a 2nd time immediately after a successful run, there's something to be said about the defense knowing what you're doing. It was a poorly called game by the OC with poor execution by the all parties in the O, as well. The Panthers are an incredible D. Hopefully this isn't the norm.
Billsmovinup Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Wrong. No arms, no interference. True, with respect to the "putrid" aspect. I think our offensive game calling limited his options and were easily defended. There were no options, no screens, no deep balls called. When you make Tyrod try to be Brady, he will fail. That's a coaching problem. You are going nowhere with Tyrod. Indecisive and inaccurate. Totally crap. You're basically saying playcalling plays no role. That's utterly wrong. When I said "run, run, pass" that's just a general euphemism for the predictable offense we had today. That predictably was mainly due to the offensive formations. I'd love to see a breakdown of % of plays by formation, particularly the I-formation. Sure, players didn't win battles, but when you rush for a net of barely positive yardage (4 or 5 yards) on handoffs to the RB on first downs PLUS negative yardage (-1 yard, I believe) the handful of times you decided to run it a 2nd time immediately after a successful run, there's something to be said about the defense knowing what you're doing. It was a poorly called game by the OC with poor execution by the all parties in the O, as well. The Panthers are an incredible D. Hopefully this isn't the norm. Play calling is important but irrelevant if the execution is non existent.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 What they're saying: Bills react to a close loss in Carolina WR Zay Jones, QB Tyrod Taylor, RB LeSean McCoy and HC Sean McDermott address the final play and more in Buffalo's 9-3 loss in Carolina.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 How is this loss NOT on TT, the dude had less than 25 passing yards the first half. That is inexcusable. And McCoy's stats were SO inspiring. Is it his fault too? The FB IQ on this board has taken a nose dive harder than a junkie with a line on a hookers breasts
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 4 of 13 3rd down conversions SMH
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 4 of 13 3rd down conversions SMH Please clarify. Is this comment pro: Whaley sucks TT must go or Trade for Luck
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 The funny thing is. Had that play worked out TTd be hailed as a savior. Even with this type of bad game.
leonbus23 Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 So running McCoy 12 times for a total of 9 yards isn't a play calling issue? Tyrod missed some open guys, but their game plan was dog $#it. Those are Reggie Bush numbers.
Magox Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 I love TT as a leader and I love his work ethic. I wish he was the one, but it's as clear as day that he isn't the QB that this team needs. I'm guessing there is a pretty good chance that he won't be on the team.
8-8 Forever? Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) 7 or 8 in the box , shut the run game down, which eliminates the play action pass, and Dennison's offense is in trouble. The better teams (read: anyone but the Jets) will do this and it will be tough to win any of these games. it's not a tank, it just Dennison's offense relies on successful stretch run game; lose that, you lose most of the rest. they are working hard, but against a stout front 7, they won't score much. my sense is we can look forward to a lot of games just like this one this year Edited September 18, 2017 by 8-8 Forever?
26CornerBlitz Posted September 18, 2017 Author Posted September 18, 2017 Rivera: We didn't play our best and won (7:59)Head coach Ron Rivera speaks to the media following the Panthers' 9-3 victory over the Bills. Newton: I have to trust the process (8:57)Quarterback Cam Newton talks with media after Carolina narrowly defeats Buffalo in the home opener.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 18, 2017 Author Posted September 18, 2017 @RichGannon12 Thoughts on BUF. Have a chance w their D(another impressive performance) & the run game but today they got stuffed, pass game is an issue! BUF cont. It's clear they can't rely totally on McCoy. Need to be able to stretch the field vertically w pass game and be more aggressive. CAR thoughts. Dodged a bullet today. D was outstanding! DL solid, #58&59 dominant duo. Like physical play w secondary.D speed impressive! CAR O. QB better today, missed some easy throws, layoff hurts his timing & rhythm. Missed center and that hurt communication & protection. CAR O cont. #28&22 are nice combo. Better from WRs. Losing Olson( foot) is devastating. OC does nice job mixing up personnel & formations. BUF QB effective game manager & decision maker, not a proficient drop back passer from pocket yet, best o/s pocket, good runner need more in QB cont. need more production in pass game, anticipation & accuracy must improve, overall issue w O is lack of threat& big play through air! If they (offense & QB) struggle & HC & OC feel that position is holding them back then at some point yes. Also depends on the R's readiness. (Regarding Peterman)
stevewin Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Do we think Cordy's ankle injury is the same thing he's been dealing with or something new (i've seen his previous injury described as both foot and ankle)
OhDozeBills Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 The funny thing is. Had that play worked out TTd be hailed as a savior. Even with this type of bad game.[/quote IF that play worked, I would of said they dodged a bullet but can't expect to play like that and win much. I also would of said TT finally made a clutch play when the game was on the line. Unfortunately we still can't say that. Just thought the mindset was to hang around as long as possible with a chance to possibly win late, and I hate that mindset. It's a play not to lose attitude
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Pass game is an issue. Thanks Captain Obvious.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 18, 2017 Author Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) The funny thing is. Had that play worked out TTd be hailed as a savior. Even with this type of bad game.[/quote IF that play worked, I would of said they dodged a bullet but can't expect to play like that and win much. I also would of said TT finally made a clutch play when the game was on the line. Unfortunately we still can't say that. Just thought the mindset was to hang around as long as possible with a chance to possibly win late, and I hate that mindset. It's a play not to lose attitude Would have...would have. Edited September 18, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
OhDozeBills Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Would have...would have. [/quote What a douche
SactoBillFan Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Defense very good. Offense just sucked. Period.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 18, 2017 Author Posted September 18, 2017 @RichGannon12 Final BUF O, if your not able to stretch field & attack through air the field shrinks significantly over time & you make it easier for any D Top 3 things we learned from Bills-Panthers Buffalo's pass rush is still fierce, Jordan Poyer looks like a free agent steal and a strong locker room props up a dejected rookie. 1 – Pass rush is alive and well 2 – Poyer a goal line guardian 3 – Strong locker room props up a dejected Zay Jones
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