Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Proper clock management puts us in position to win. Sean put us in position to win. If Zay did catch that and got tackled in field of play at 1 yard line then that timeout would have been very useful Again, we had two timeouts when he should have called a TO. Look, I don't think clock management had anything to do with the loss, but saving time in the final two minutes when you have multiple timeouts is a science. There are objective moments when a timeout should be called. He missed one, hopefully its not a pattern And to everyone who says it ended up not costing us anything, who cares? If we won, would we not be allowed to complaint about the inept offense because we won? Of course we still can. Clock management is a pet peeve of mine because so many head coaches are bad at it. It strikes a cord Edited September 17, 2017 by Crayola64
DisplacedBillsFan Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 And to everyone who says it ended up not costing us anything, who cares? If we won, would we not be allowed to complaint about the inept offense because we won? Of course we still But the clock didn't expire. In fact, the Panthers got the ball back and had to kneel. AND, we still could have stopped the clock one more time if needed. If we didn't actually run out of time, clock management wasn't an issue.
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 It's all part of the process. Explain.
Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 But the clock didn't expire. In fact, the Panthers got the ball back and had to kneel. AND, we still could have stopped the clock one more time if needed. If we didn't actually run out of time, clock management wasn't an issue. You are using hindsight and an imaginary sequence of events where the missed TO would have been better. You can make a bad decision, and have it work out for you. I'm not saying that. But if you have multiple timeouts in under 40 seconds, and you waste 13 seconds after a play ends, then you missed a spot to call a TO. Because the chances of you saving more than 13 seconds in a later play is low-percentage. It really isn't complicated. And again, I didn't say it cost us the game or had an impact. Also not hard to understand...
row_33 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Pats got a field goal off with 13 seconds on the clock.
Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 Pats got a field goal off with 13 seconds on the clock. Ok? I guess clock management is complicated since many of you don't understand it either haha
DisplacedBillsFan Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 You are using hindsight and an imaginary sequence of events where the missed TO would have been better. You can make a bad decision, and have it work out for you. I'm not saying that. But if you have multiple timeouts in under 40 seconds, and you waste 13 seconds after a play ends, then you missed a spot to call a TO. Because the chances of you saving more than 13 seconds in a later play is low-percentage. It really isn't complicated. And again, I didn't say it cost us the game or had an impact. Also not hard to understand... It isn't complicated, what you're saying just doesn't make sense. It'd be like blaming the driver for running out of gas because you arrive at your destination 5 minutes late with 1/2 tank of gas left.
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 So are all you whining because Rich freaking Gannon didn't like that they used a time out? Seriously? Do you Bills fans not have a clue? If Taylor throws a better ball, that clock management is perfect as it leaves no time left for Carolina. The least of the Bills' trouble is McDermott's clock management... I wish Bills fans were not so friggin clueless.
Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 So are all you whining because Rich freaking Gannon didn't like that they used a time out? Seriously? Do you Bills fans not have a clue? If Taylor throws a better ball, that clock management is perfect as it leaves no time left for Carolina. The least of the Bills' trouble is McDermott's clock management... I wish Bills fans were not so friggin clueless. How many times do I have to say it didn't matter and had no impact on the game. I don't know how you can type when you are unable to read? It isn't complicated, what you're saying just doesn't make sense. It'd be like blaming the driver for running out of gas because you arrive at your destination 5 minutes late with 1/2 tank of gas left. What are you talking about? So if something doesn't impact the end of the game, we can't criticise or discuss it?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 What is going on there? A surprising amount of NFL coaches cannot manage the clock. Yet a college student can make a hierarchy of when to call a timeout at exact moments of a game to save the most clock. Him failing to call a TO with less than 40 seconds to go after a run was crazy. Bills need to hire a time management guy to call timeouts at the end of a game ....seriously?...that comes under the auspices of your HC and is in his job description....
row_33 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 All the experts have it perfectly solved on here.
Fadingpain Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 What is going on there? A surprising amount of NFL coaches cannot manage the clock. Yet a college student can make a hierarchy of when to call a timeout at exact moments of a game to save the most clock. Him failing to call a TO with less than 40 seconds to go after a run was crazy. Bills need to hire a time management guy to call timeouts at the end of a game The new coaching regime scores poorly today for clock management, game management, and that decision to kick a FG on 4th and 2 in my opinion as well. I.E., McDermott may be young, but he does represent much fresh and new in these departments at OBD. I truly hope he gets better at these things; I had hope that he would have been better than what we saw today.
Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 ....seriously?...that comes under the auspices of your HC and is in his job description.... Yea? So many coaches are awful at it. I have been surprised for years a team hasn't delegated this duty to someone who is an expert in it
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) CLCOK MANAGEMENT, CLOCK MANAGEMENT Bills fans are douches... GOD is WNY full of whiners. It's the QB stupid... !@#$ing sick of this moronic !@#$ing fan base! Edited September 17, 2017 by T-Bomb
Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 CLCOK MANAGEMENT, CLOCK MANAGEMENT Bills fans are douches... GOD is WNY full of whiners. It's the QB stupid... !@#$ing sick of this moronic !@#$ing fan base! lol this is a great post from someone calling people douches. Fails to read the thread, doesn't understand it, and starts shouting
DisplacedBillsFan Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 How many times do I have to say it didn't matter and had no impact on the game. I don't know how you can type when you are unable to read? What are you talking about? So if something doesn't impact the end of the game, we can't criticise or discuss it? Just because you disagree with the strategy doesn't mean it was a mistake or mismanagement. I'm gonna have to believe that the HC of an NFL team can manage a NFL game better than you. The premise of your statements isn't that you disagree with the strategy, but rather, that McDermott can't manage the clock, which is just inaccurate and stupid.
K-9 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Was gonna start the same topic. McD was clueless, indecisive with his clock management. That doesn't bode well and makes me wonder what else he is missing on a play to play basis. Great cheerleader though.
Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Just because you disagree with the strategy doesn't mean it was a mistake or mismanagement. I'm gonna have to believe that the HC of an NFL team can manage a NFL game better than you. The premise of your statements isn't that you disagree with the strategy, but rather, that McDermott can't manage the clock, which is just inaccurate and stupid. I don't think I said he can't manage a clock? So inaccurate and stupid eh? I'm talking about one specific bad clock management decision. And I don't feel like explaining why it was bad choice anymore. The second timeout in less than a minute of a game should be used to save as much time as possible. Failing to use it when it took almost 15 seconds to run a play was a bad decision objectively, because the chances of being able to save that much time with your 2nd TO is very unlikely. Choosing when to use that last TO is much much more subjective. And saying blabla is a head coach so he is better at that than you is a silly argument. I bet you think Reid's clock management is just dandy. He of course can manage a game better than me, but I am not saying that, or saying he managed this game badly. I'm pointing out he missed a chance to call a TO in a very obvious opportunity Edited September 17, 2017 by Crayola64
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Explain. No one can. Because Bills havent explained. Just that we should blindly trust it.
DisplacedBillsFan Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 I don't think I said he can't manage a clock? So inaccurate and stupid eh? You started this thread with a post that said a surprising number of NFL coaches CANNOT manage the clock and the Bills need to hire a clock management specialist. So yes, you did say that.
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