Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 And you need to be too. Our defense played their butts off. Absolutely horrible QB play. He missed receivers all day long and never keeps his eyes downfield. The guy makes me sick. Such a shame we are a average QB away. His completion percentage was around 70%
MAJBobby Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 His completion percentage was around 70% Yes the good ole QB rating hack.
TSOL Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Y'know we are stuck with Tyrod for the season, probably next year too. And furthermore, we are probably going to end up with the 4th best QB pick in 2018, but carry on...
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Exactly. And yes proof... you said 27 teams pay for PFF... Show me proof of that Here is an excerpt from an SI article back in 2015. https://www.si.com/2015/01/25/pro-football-focus-nfl-neil-hornsby-cris-collinsworth-analytics Neil Hornsby isn’t doing this solely as a labor of love, though that’s precisely how his business, Pro Football Focus, began nine years ago in Luton, England, some 30 miles north of London. Living stateside since October, he now counts 13 NFL teams—40% of the league—as clients, including seven teams from this season’s playoff field. He also oversees a staff of roughly 80 full- and part-time employees who watch countless hours of game footage from their home offices in California, Northern Ireland and seemingly everywhere in between. Cris Collinsworth also bought a percentage of PFF after being so impressed by it. Edited September 19, 2017 by Scott7975
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Here is an excerpt from an SI article back in 2015. https://www.si.com/2015/01/25/pro-football-focus-nfl-neil-hornsby-cris-collinsworth-analytics Now what are they getting from him. I am sure it is not your run of the mill QBR stuff. If an NFL team has hired PFF they are getting very specific information.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Yes the good ole QB rating hack. No that would be completion percentage, not QB rating. Thx. The point he was missing WRs all day doesn't align well with 70% completed passes... now does it?
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 No that would be completion percentage, not QB rating. Thx. The point he was missing WRs all day doesn't align well with 70% completed passes... now does it? Yes it actually does. 1 QB rating is very greatly affected by comp percentage thats why i said that. Anyway missing WRs is more about the throws he doesnt make compared to the ones he does.
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 It's just depressing watching the pathetic joke of an offense the Bills run (all around zero imagination or creativity) then watching the Falcons/Packers game. We aren't even in the same league. It's like watching a different sport, and has been for years now. Even the Chiefs, the team that everyone points to as the "run the ball, play defense and get a little lucky team" throw it quite a bit and make big plays in the passing game. Even GB sucked yesterday until Atlanta backed off with a huge lead.
NewMexBills Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 TYGOD will prove you all wrong after a fine showing Sunday vs Broncos
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Now what are they getting from him. I am sure it is not your run of the mill QBR stuff. If an NFL team has hired PFF they are getting very specific information. I'm not even really trying to prove anything. Guy wanted a link and I gave him one from 2.5 years ago saying I think 13 teams. I don't think the teams use it for ratings but they really do have some useful stats that not really anyone charted at the time. I am sure they are useful to teams at least somewhat.
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 I'm not even really trying to prove anything. Guy wanted a link and I gave him one from 2.5 years ago saying I think 13 teams. I don't think the teams use it for ratings but they really do have some useful stats that not really anyone charted at the time. I am sure they are useful to teams at least somewhat. Ooo yeah i agree. I doubt teams use their subjective grades and such. And if they employ PFF i am sure they are asking for specific things. Just like they do from these national scouting agencies like Belsto
BobbyC81 Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 But I like Darnold Josh Allen isn't helping his draft ranking any so far this season. I guess Falk rebounded but I watched his previous game and he was awful. Looking forward to seeing Rosen vs Stanford this Saturday.
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Man looking at the wont pull the trigger plays on the all-22. Standard data for Tentative Tyrod
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) How about giving that Carolina defense some credit! They played lights out....That pass rush was quite fearsome and our OL did not hold up for either the run or pass gameWe give them credit of doing the same thing as 15 of his last 31 opponents Stop the run stop the Bills Edited September 19, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan
transplantbillsfan Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Man looking at the wont pull the trigger plays on the all-22. Standard data for Tentative Tyrod Ummm... what? Dude, what were you watching? There's a play he's rolling to his left that's pretty clearly designed to #42 where O'Leary comes open in the middle of the field. Taylor sees him and doesn't throw it and goes back to #42. Why? Probably because the difficulty of that throw to O'Leary was significantly higher considering the way he was running and the defenders running straight at him and the goal was just to get a first down and #42 would have had that if he could have held onto the damn ball. What the All-22 confirms is that there may be a couple plays where Taylor could have thrown it to another guy, but our guys were blanketed by Panthers defenders. I really don't know what All-22 you're watching
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Man looking at the wont pull the trigger plays on the all-22. Standard data for Tentative Tyrod Like this one: https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909941669579100160 or this one:https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909943076826812417 Where are you watching this because all ive seen on yards per pass thus far is blanketed receivers and little time to throw. Edit: Ive seen the one slant he could have hit from our endzone. So there is one play so far. Where else? Edited September 19, 2017 by Scott7975
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Quote Probably because the difficulty of that throw to O'Leary was significantly higher considering the way he was running and the defenders running straight at him and the goal was just to get a first down and #42 would have had that if he could have held onto the damn ball. Unquote Difficulty ........... Significantly higher ......... He was running ....... Not that hard to see the same faults
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Ummm... what? Dude, what were you watching? There's a play he's rolling to his left that's pretty clearly designed to #42 where O'Leary comes open in the middle of the field. Taylor sees him and doesn't throw it and goes back to #42. Why? Probably because the difficulty of that throw to O'Leary was significantly higher considering the way he was running and the defenders running straight at him and the goal was just to get a first down and #42 would have had that if he could have held onto the damn ball. What the All-22 confirms is that there may be a couple plays where Taylor could have thrown it to another guy, but our guys were blanketed by Panthers defenders. I really don't know what All-22 you're watching Ready check this timeline there hero https://twitter.com/cover_1_/status/909918697401221121
Scott7975 Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909946801775669248 The only reason Tyrod was able to thread the needle here is because this guy was college open over the middle.
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Posted September 19, 2017 Like this one: https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909941669579100160 or this one:https://twitter.com/YardsPerPass/status/909943076826812417 Where are you watching this because all ive seen on yards per pass thus far is blanketed receivers and little time to throw. Edit: Ive seen the one slant he could have hit from our endzone. So there is one play so far. Where else? How about this one. Watch Zay WIDE Open on the dig https://twitter.com/cover_1_/status/909918697401221121
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