stevewin Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 BecUse there was 9 seconds left. If they get iut of bounds have 4 plays from the 4. wtf?
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 BecUse there was 9 seconds left. If they get iut of bounds have 4 plays from the 4. Uhhhh we had another timeout
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 wtf? He makes the catch and gets out of bounds there is 9 seconds left with 1st and goal from the 4. Thats why the Smash concept was called. If you cant turn it up to get in get out of bounds. They also had a TO in pocket so if tackled immediately call TO still have shots. But hey no just ran the wrong route thats easier than understanding gameflow Uhhhh we had another timeout Yeah and if can save it by getting OB after the Corner (if cant get in) leaves run pass option from the 4 with a TO in pocket
stony Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 He makes the catch and gets out of bounds there is 9 seconds left with 1st and goal from the 4. Thats why the Smash concept was called. If you cant turn it up to get in get out of bounds. They also had a TO in pocket so if tackled immediately call TO still have shots. But hey no just ran the wrong route thats easier than understanding gameflow Based on recent history, its no sure thing McDermott calls the TO.
CommonCents Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Sammy catches that ball. I guess wins are too expensive. Thanks McBeane. Sammy tore it up today against Norman.
BuffaloBill Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Bit time players may big plays at the right time. TYrod threw an inaccurate pass at the worst possible time. TT is a backup QB who can come in as a change of pace player. He is not an elite QB and never will be as much as we might wish for this to happen.
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 He makes the catch and gets out of bounds there is 9 seconds left with 1st and goal from the 4. Thats why the Smash concept was called. If you cant turn it up to get in get out of bounds. They also had a TO in pocket so if tackled immediately call TO still have shots. But hey no just ran the wrong route thats easier than understanding gameflow Yeah and if can save it by getting OB after the Corner (if cant get in) leaves run pass option from the 4 with a TO in pocket Watching you go out of your way to defend your point is very entertaining. Move on. Tyrod didn't even play well today, it is bizarre that are you so intent on proving something you can't possibly know. If you would take your blinders off for a minute you would admit there was some kind of miscommunication, Zay got his hands on it, it should have been a catch. I am waiting for the All-22 to judge Tyrod in this game.
bigduke6 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Zay was clearly lookin for the ball over his right shoulder, meaning that he probably was doin what a smart rookie should do, look to get out of bounds as fast as possible. of course the placement of the ball was left shoulder so he twists and contorts and stumbles his way to a ball that glances offa his fingertips while hes completely stretched out. its possible he ran the wrong route, its possible he looked over the wrong shoulder, its also extremely possible that his QB who doesnt throw guys open or hit them in stride, or throw the ball where its supposed to be on a regular basis blew the pass. either way, we dont know, only Zay, Tyrod, and the coaches know. Thinking that Zay admitted it was his fault actually means it was his fault is naive, no WR throws his QB under the buss, especially a rookie. thinking that this one play that was fouled up (possibly) by a rookie WR shows that Taylor isnt a bad QB is also naive.
Scott7975 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 I don't think anyone's comparing it to OBJ catches, Certainly not David Tyree. I certainly never said it was a circus catch. But reducing it to a routine catch is misguided IMO. I see guys drop that. All. The. Time. I didn't say it was a routine catch. I said it wasn't a circus catch.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Bit time players may big plays at the right time. TYrod threw an inaccurate pass at the worst possible time. TT is a backup QB who can come in as a change of pace player. He is not an elite QB and never will be as much as we might wish for this to happen. I hope he's more than bit time or next time he won't make the play.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 You don't look to go out of bounds at the four yard line instead of walking in untouched for a touchdown. He knew no one was near him. Come on.
B Fan in LA Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 I've watched the reply 25 times. I can't figure out where Zay was heading after he made his cut to get open. Looks like he was headed out of bounds, then he turned to the ball and recovered. Looks like Tyrod split the 2 defensive backs with his throw. People complain that Tyrod can't throw to an area and has to have the receiver, stop, look back, and wave his arms............... Well this was a case where Tyrod anticipated where Zay should have been and threw the ball to the widest open area. Can't say I blame Tyrod on that throw, because it looked like Zay ran a crazy route.
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Watching you go out of your way to defend your point is very entertaining. Move on. Tyrod didn't even play well today, it is bizarre that are you so intent on proving something you can't possibly know. If you would take your blinders off for a minute you would admit there was some kind of miscommunication, Zay got his hands on it, it should have been a catch. I am waiting for the All-22 to judge Tyrod in this game. Where anywhere in that post that you quoted had ANYTHING to do with me saying TT played bad or made a bad throw. That will be very entertaining.
Alphadawg7 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 The excuses for TT are crazy. NO pressure and a WIDE OPEN receiver, it was a BAD THROW, a clutch QB makes that throw. I dont care who the ball was thrown to, it was HOT GARBAGE. His whole game was a joke today. No offense, but you either haven't REALLY watched the play or don't know what you are looking at. Its clear as day to poor cut ZJ made that cost him his balance and he turned to look for the ball LATE. When ZJ stumbles the ball is in the air. Had ZJ made a CLEAN cut on the route and got his head around he not only catches the ball but on his feet as he steps into the endzone. NOW...that being said, this ONE play isn't why we lost. The Offense, and that includes not only TT but the guys who dropped passes, the bad play calling, the bad clock management, the missed holes in the run game, the poor OL play, etc as a whole that was all bad and cost us this game. Everyone had a bad week this week on the offense, including our coaches.
bigduke6 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 You don't look to go out of bounds at the four yard line instead of walking in untouched for a touchdown. He knew no one was near him. Come on. entirely possible Zay didnt know where the safety was and thought he might get tackled if he turned up field. lot of variables for a rookie to worry about in the spot.
HappyDays Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Where anywhere in that post that you quoted had ANYTHING to do with me saying TT played bad or made a bad throw. That will be very entertaining. Why do you resort to these kinds of tactics Bobby? You have multiple posts criticizing Tyrod for making an awful throw. Don't treat me like I'm stupid.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 There has to be at least some fault on both Taylor and Jones. I think there is more on Jones and would put a 75% Jones - 25% Taylor ratio of fault on it. It seems like Jones probably ran a little different of a route than was called for, and also that Taylor overthrew the ball a bit. We don't have a way to know where Taylor's throw would have been in relationship to Jones had he ran a correct route, so that is tough to judge. Regardless, I tend to stick to a general rule that if the football hit the WR's hands, then the QB likely did his job and the WR did not where the result is an incomplete pass.
stevewin Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 You don't look to go out of bounds at the four yard line instead of walking in untouched for a touchdown. He knew no one was near him. Come on. Thank You. This has really turned into some kind of bizarro world
Alphadawg7 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 I've watched the reply 25 times. I can't figure out where Zay was heading after he made his cut to get open. Looks like he was headed out of bounds, then he turned to the ball and recovered. Looks like Tyrod split the 2 defensive backs with his throw. People complain that Tyrod can't throw to an area and has to have the receiver, stop, look back, and wave his arms............... Well this was a case where Tyrod anticipated where Zay should have been and threw the ball to the widest open area. Can't say I blame Tyrod on that throw, because it looked like Zay ran a crazy route. THIS 100000%. Again, doesn't excuse all the offensive woes throughout the game, but that was a great pass that ZJ just didn't come through on either the route or the late adjustment to make the play.
ddaryl Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) That was all TT's fault.. just an inaccurate throw IMO Zay had already made his cut way before TT threw it. Zay could of run a little better route.. but Jones had made his break and had trajectory before TT released the ball Edited September 17, 2017 by ddaryl
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